Comments on: GONZALES RESIGNS! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/ General interest observations and true web-log. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:20:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Li http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763866 Li Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:47:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763866 Naysaying aside, this is a good thing, because it removes a major impediment to real oversight, and forces hearings in order to approve a new attorney general. That is, if the Democrats have the spine to take advantage of this event, which they have shown little sign of so far. So sad that one of our two parties has lost its mind, and the other has lost its will. Naysaying aside, this is a good thing, because it removes a major impediment to real oversight, and forces hearings in order to approve a new attorney general. That is, if the Democrats have the spine to take advantage of this event, which they have shown little sign of so far. So sad that one of our two parties has lost its mind, and the other has lost its will.

]]> By: art http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763588 art Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:25:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763588 I guess, Bush is finally cracking down on those immigrants … I guess, Bush is finally cracking down on those immigrants …

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763571 MikeN Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:58:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763571 Wow, GregA, thanks for the wonderful definition of fascism. Proves my theory that like right-wing, fascism stands for whatever liberals don't like. I think the traditional definition involves nationalism and everyone serving the state. Also, it involves a confluence of big labor, big government, and big business. Wow, GregA, thanks for the wonderful definition of fascism. Proves my theory that like right-wing, fascism stands for whatever liberals don’t like.
I think the traditional definition involves nationalism and everyone serving the state. Also, it involves a confluence of big labor, big government, and big business.

]]> By: nightstar http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763187 nightstar Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:43:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763187 All this means is that bush will have to go shopping for a new poodle. All this means is that bush will have to go shopping for a new poodle.

]]> By: tikiloungelizard http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763184 tikiloungelizard Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:39:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763184 Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya, Al. Yet another Bush crony hired for his loyalty and not his competency. The only competent people in the Bush administration are/were Cheney and Rove, and I only say that because they have been so competent at being evil. Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya, Al. Yet another Bush crony hired for his loyalty and not his competency. The only competent people in the Bush administration are/were Cheney and Rove, and I only say that because they have been so competent at being evil.

]]> By: doug http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763077 doug Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:55:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763077 Gonzo was forced to resign because he was on the verge of exposing a vast ring of Republican preverts. Mark Foley was just the tip of the iceberg: http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/19763-1.html Gonzo was forced to resign because he was on the verge of exposing a vast ring of Republican preverts. Mark Foley was just the tip of the iceberg:

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/19763-1.html

]]> By: tallwookie http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763062 tallwookie Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:43:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763062 ya know - when I heard this while driving into work this morning, I wondered what kinda crazy shit you guys would have to say about it - thanks for making it enjoyable ;) I think its like fleas hopping off of a dying dog - more and more as time goes by.... btw, my commute back took 30 min extra cuz Seattle closed 405N so the president didnt have to deal with traffic - lucky bastard :P ya know – when I heard this while driving into work this morning, I wondered what kinda crazy shit you guys would have to say about it – thanks for making it enjoyable ;)

I think its like fleas hopping off of a dying dog – more and more as time goes by….

btw, my commute back took 30 min extra cuz Seattle closed 405N so the president didnt have to deal with traffic – lucky bastard :P

]]> By: GregA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-763018 GregA Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:03:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-763018 MikeN, The problem with your theory is that they were branded fascists before the took office because they did fascist things before they took the office. It isn't like Ashcroft showed up out of nowhere without a record. In fact the reason why people like you like Ashcroft, Bush and Gonzales is because they are fascists. That makes you a fascists as well BTW. You just don't like the history that suggests that fascists regimes tend to implode and kill a bunch of people in the process. Basically exactly as has happened to Bush. But go ahead, keep on believe that your fundamentally flawed theory of government can somehow be made to work, and ignore that a very basic premise of fascism is dismantling the central government and handing it over to private entities. Fascism doesn't work because it is designed not to work. Maybe I can put it in terms using code words you will understand... You might complain that Feminism has destroyed the family structure. That is because Feminism HAS destroyed the family structure. However it isn't a failing of feminism, that is what feminism was designed to do, so that women were not oppressed into one codified way to live their life. Another way to look at it from your stilted viewpoint. Back in the 90's conservatives complained ALL THE FING time that the military was for killing people and blowing things up. Now look at Iraq. Mission Accomplished! Can we stop killing people and blowing things up now? MikeN,

The problem with your theory is that they were branded fascists before the took office because they did fascist things before they took the office. It isn’t like Ashcroft showed up out of nowhere without a record.

In fact the reason why people like you like Ashcroft, Bush and Gonzales is because they are fascists.

That makes you a fascists as well BTW. You just don’t like the history that suggests that fascists regimes tend to implode and kill a bunch of people in the process. Basically exactly as has happened to Bush.

But go ahead, keep on believe that your fundamentally flawed theory of government can somehow be made to work, and ignore that a very basic premise of fascism is dismantling the central government and handing it over to private entities. Fascism doesn’t work because it is designed not to work.

Maybe I can put it in terms using code words you will understand…

You might complain that Feminism has destroyed the family structure. That is because Feminism HAS destroyed the family structure. However it isn’t a failing of feminism, that is what feminism was designed to do, so that women were not oppressed into one codified way to live their life.

Another way to look at it from your stilted viewpoint. Back in the 90’s conservatives complained ALL THE FING time that the military was for killing people and blowing things up. Now look at Iraq. Mission Accomplished! Can we stop killing people and blowing things up now?

]]> By: moss http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-762986 moss Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:56:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-762986 Times like this I get tempted to do a little video hacking. You know, take Gonzales' farewell speech - then, slowly, diminish his dialogue on one channel - and spot another track, like, on some Marines in the background and have them start humming the Battle Hymn of the Republic. You could bring it to a crescendo just like Mickey Rooney remembering John Wayne in WW2 agitprop. Bring a tear to MikeN's eye. Times like this I get tempted to do a little video hacking. You know, take Gonzales’ farewell speech – then, slowly, diminish his dialogue on one channel – and spot another track, like, on some Marines in the background and have them start humming the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

You could bring it to a crescendo just like Mickey Rooney remembering John Wayne in WW2 agitprop.

Bring a tear to MikeN’s eye.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-762970 ECA Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:26:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-762970 This is like haveing a MOVING target that has its own body guard... Every time we AIM at Bush, someone JUMPS into the way, and takes a bullet(wishful hoping). "The BUCK stops here", is NOT in this presidents Vocabulary(c student, not much there anyway). Every time we shoot a broadside at him, its like Someone rushes OUT in a Dingy, and catches the ball. Someone he put into the JOB... He gets fired or QUITS, and we try again. We arnt getting the truth behind these people. And SOMETHINg has to be going on in the background.... This is like haveing a MOVING target that has its own body guard…
Every time we AIM at Bush, someone JUMPS into the way, and takes a bullet(wishful hoping).

“The BUCK stops here”, is NOT in this presidents Vocabulary(c student, not much there anyway). Every time we shoot a broadside at him, its like Someone rushes OUT in a Dingy, and catches the ball. Someone he put into the JOB… He gets fired or QUITS, and we try again.

We arnt getting the truth behind these people. And SOMETHINg has to be going on in the background….

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-762953 MikeN Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:59:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-762953 Grog, that Congress just expanded the NSA surveillance authority. Reno got roasted plenty too, so maybe it is bipartisan. Can't be sure until we get some more Dem AGs. But Ashcroft was branded a fascist before 9/11, and all the Republicans get tagged as such. Grog, that Congress just expanded the NSA surveillance authority.
Reno got roasted plenty too, so maybe it is bipartisan. Can’t be sure until we get some more Dem AGs. But Ashcroft was branded a fascist before 9/11, and all the Republicans get tagged as such.

]]> By: grog http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-762937 grog Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:34:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-762937 #36 MikeN -- <i>it seems every attorney general in a Republican administration gets attacked</i> i would point out that reno got roasted plenty by a republican congress back in the day, but that's not the point <b>the bush administration brought their current siege upon themselves </b>-- they came to town and started ramming their objectives down everyone's throat, continually sought to circumvent and belittle the congress, pushed to pack the court and politicize the justice department, and basically told anyone in congress who spoke up to fuck off <b> what did they expect would happen? their attempt a bloodless coup failed</b> , and now they're stuck in a quagmire, (just like iraq) and it turns out the congressional branch of our government simply won't be cowed that easily #36 MikeN — it seems every attorney general in a Republican administration gets attacked
i would point out that reno got roasted plenty by a republican congress back in the day, but that’s not the point

the bush administration brought their current siege upon themselves – they came to town and started ramming their objectives down everyone’s throat, continually sought to circumvent and belittle the congress, pushed to pack the court and politicize the justice department, and basically told anyone in congress who spoke up to fuck off what did they expect would happen?

their attempt a bloodless coup failed , and now they’re stuck in a quagmire, (just like iraq) and it turns out the congressional branch of our government simply won’t be cowed that easily

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-762913 MikeN Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:15:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-762913 I'll grant you he refused to turn over subpoenaed docs, but as for the lies, that's just not the case. Even the New York Times conceded the point on the meeting with Ashcroft. I’ll grant you he refused to turn over subpoenaed docs, but as for the lies, that’s just not the case. Even the New York Times conceded the point on the meeting with Ashcroft.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-762912 MikeN Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:13:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-762912 Grog, I'll grant you he's inept, and shouldn't be attorney general. What bothers me is that it seems every attorney general in a Republican administration gets attacked. Grog, I’ll grant you he’s inept, and shouldn’t be attorney general. What bothers me is that it seems every attorney general in a Republican administration gets attacked.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-762903 Rabble Rouser Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:06:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13370#comment-762903 Gee, the Cons sure get bothered about all this... Do you think they'll move to another planet when Clinton wins in '08? Or will they go crawl back under the rock they came up from? Gee, the Cons sure get bothered about all this… Do you think they’ll move to another planet when Clinton wins in ‘08? Or will they go crawl back under the rock they came up from?

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