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		<title>By: Glenn E</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-2/#comment-789262</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, BTW. Remember that old Outer Limits Tv series? And how they did that visual trip of showing you the moon, all blurry at first? And then they sharpened it &quot;to crystal clarity&quot;? This always made any Tv&#039;s screen (even a cheap B&amp;W model) look spectacular for a couple of seconds. It fools you into comparing the two views. So naturally the second one always takes your breath away. The same thing applies with these photos. Lots of contrast (due to a lack of air), and high color saturation. You can get just as impressive views from mountain tops. Check this one out.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg

Green enough for ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, BTW. Remember that old Outer Limits Tv series? And how they did that visual trip of showing you the moon, all blurry at first? And then they sharpened it &#8220;to crystal clarity&#8221;? This always made any Tv&#8217;s screen (even a cheap B&amp;W model) look spectacular for a couple of seconds. It fools you into comparing the two views. So naturally the second one always takes your breath away. The same thing applies with these photos. Lots of contrast (due to a lack of air), and high color saturation. You can get just as impressive views from mountain tops. Check this one out.</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg</a></p>
<p>Green enough for ya?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-2/#comment-789243</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah NASA... Time once again to show the public what they&#039;re paying for. Whether the public wanted it or not. And if just 10% did, that&#039;s a good enough excuse for Congress to approve funds for it. They do this PR stuff about twice a year. In the spring, for appropriations time. And in the fall, for the new school year, so it gets worked into the curriculum as &quot;current affairs&quot;.

BTW, Jopa. You can see what the astronauts see by going to one of those IMAX theater shows. And someday soon, HDTVs will bring these views right into your livingroom. Rather than funding a rarely useful space laboratory, NASA should just build a Tv station up there. That way we can all tune in on these views and more. Why should we have to way for them to dole out the pics, piecemeal? Let&#039;s have 24/7 views of earth in glorious HD, so we can all get bored of seeing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah NASA&#8230; Time once again to show the public what they&#8217;re paying for. Whether the public wanted it or not. And if just 10% did, that&#8217;s a good enough excuse for Congress to approve funds for it. They do this PR stuff about twice a year. In the spring, for appropriations time. And in the fall, for the new school year, so it gets worked into the curriculum as &#8220;current affairs&#8221;.</p>
<p>BTW, Jopa. You can see what the astronauts see by going to one of those IMAX theater shows. And someday soon, HDTVs will bring these views right into your livingroom. Rather than funding a rarely useful space laboratory, NASA should just build a Tv station up there. That way we can all tune in on these views and more. Why should we have to way for them to dole out the pics, piecemeal? Let&#8217;s have 24/7 views of earth in glorious HD, so we can all get bored of seeing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Ekdahl</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-2/#comment-788747</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Ekdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do appreciate you pointed me to those photos.

http://www.ekdahl.org
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do appreciate you pointed me to those photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a video of the hurricane:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFOm8BC4GE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a video of the hurricane:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFOm8BC4GE" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFOm8BC4GE' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFOm8BC4GE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-2/#comment-787962</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, hurricane Dean, not Dave.</description>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-2/#comment-787961</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely breathtaking! 

The last photo is of hurricane Dave, which forced NASA to bring the shuttle to Earth 1 day earlier than originally planned.

I am amazed at how all this seems unreal - so much so that more and more people can&#039;t believe it&#039;s even real - see earlier comments. But NASA is really doing all this! You can see the ISS from Earth with a modest sized telescope, if you know where to look - so it&#039;s really there! And believe me, one day photos of the Apollo landing modules will be taken, and everyone will just go Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh...... 

Most unfortunate that these things seem unreal, and are done so rarely... For me it&#039;s like we&#039;re going back to the Stone Age, an the Apollo days are becoming some sort of a folk tale, a legend. Sad, very  sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely breathtaking! </p>
<p>The last photo is of hurricane Dave, which forced NASA to bring the shuttle to Earth 1 day earlier than originally planned.</p>
<p>I am amazed at how all this seems unreal &#8211; so much so that more and more people can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s even real &#8211; see earlier comments. But NASA is really doing all this! You can see the ISS from Earth with a modest sized telescope, if you know where to look &#8211; so it&#8217;s really there! And believe me, one day photos of the Apollo landing modules will be taken, and everyone will just go Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Most unfortunate that these things seem unreal, and are done so rarely&#8230; For me it&#8217;s like we&#8217;re going back to the Stone Age, an the Apollo days are becoming some sort of a folk tale, a legend. Sad, very  sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-1/#comment-787930</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19, Whoops, forgot to mention, you&#039;ll need to scroll down some for more great photos!  Kudos to Hop and ECA!  Enjoy!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19, Whoops, forgot to mention, you&#8217;ll need to scroll down some for more great photos!  Kudos to Hop and ECA!  Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-1/#comment-787925</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous photography.   Where&#039;s my PanAm ticket to the moon Arthur C. Clarke predicted in the 60&#039;s - re: 2001 - A Space Odyssey?

A few more superb photos from STS-118 and other NASA missions are here: http://tinyurl.com/2xbfoa

For all those wondering about how the photos were lit, the shuttle is in LEO (low earth orbit) and it&#039;s possible to be fully illuminated with the Earth only partially so.  There&#039;s only one source of light around here - it&#039;s a giant ball of hydrogen fusing into helium exactly 1 AU from Earth.

And don&#039;t even begin to talk about moonlight -- where do you think that light originated?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous photography.   Where&#8217;s my PanAm ticket to the moon Arthur C. Clarke predicted in the 60&#8242;s &#8211; re: 2001 &#8211; A Space Odyssey?</p>
<p>A few more superb photos from STS-118 and other NASA missions are here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2xbfoa" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/2xbfoa' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/2xbfoa</a></p>
<p>For all those wondering about how the photos were lit, the shuttle is in LEO (low earth orbit) and it&#8217;s possible to be fully illuminated with the Earth only partially so.  There&#8217;s only one source of light around here &#8211; it&#8217;s a giant ball of hydrogen fusing into helium exactly 1 AU from Earth.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t even begin to talk about moonlight &#8212; where do you think that light originated?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill R.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-1/#comment-787532</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15, amable - 

That&#039;s also a day pass photo.  If you see look at the astronauts visor, it appears to be in the &#039;down&#039; position.


NASA also makes these available through their web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15, amable &#8211; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s also a day pass photo.  If you see look at the astronauts visor, it appears to be in the &#8216;down&#8217; position.</p>
<p>NASA also makes these available through their web site.</p>
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		<title>By: Balbas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balbas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10:

The nearest pair of stars are Alpha and Proxima Centauri, at a distance of 4.5 light years, and they are visible in the Southern Hemisphere only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10:</p>
<p>The nearest pair of stars are Alpha and Proxima Centauri, at a distance of 4.5 light years, and they are visible in the Southern Hemisphere only.</p>
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		<title>By: hhopper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-1/#comment-787158</link>
		<dc:creator>hhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice Uncle Dave.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice Uncle Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: amable</title>
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		<dc:creator>amable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay guys, correct me if I&#039;m wrong but, how can the Earth be so lit up as if it were daytime?  The key word here is &quot;daytime&quot;.  So, if it&#039;s daytime on the Earth in those shots then that side of the Earth, where the astronauts are orbiting over at the time of the pictures, is being lit up by the Sun.  Only the Sun lights up the Earth.  If anything else were to be able to light up the Earth then we would be in deep trouble.

In fact, all of the pictures, except for 3 where I can&#039;t tell what the source of the light is, are being illuminated by the Sun in one form or another.  Whether the Sun is directly behind the camera or to the right or to the left or where I don&#039;t think really matters.  The point I&#039;m making with my answer is that it wouldn&#039;t be daylight on the Earth without the Sun illuminating it.  The Sun is certainly not in the other side ofthe Earth opposite to where most of these pictures were taken (except for #3 where I can&#039;t see the Earth).  That&#039;s my final answer.

The answer for why the stars are not visible makes perfectly good sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay guys, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but, how can the Earth be so lit up as if it were daytime?  The key word here is &#8220;daytime&#8221;.  So, if it&#8217;s daytime on the Earth in those shots then that side of the Earth, where the astronauts are orbiting over at the time of the pictures, is being lit up by the Sun.  Only the Sun lights up the Earth.  If anything else were to be able to light up the Earth then we would be in deep trouble.</p>
<p>In fact, all of the pictures, except for 3 where I can&#8217;t tell what the source of the light is, are being illuminated by the Sun in one form or another.  Whether the Sun is directly behind the camera or to the right or to the left or where I don&#8217;t think really matters.  The point I&#8217;m making with my answer is that it wouldn&#8217;t be daylight on the Earth without the Sun illuminating it.  The Sun is certainly not in the other side ofthe Earth opposite to where most of these pictures were taken (except for #3 where I can&#8217;t see the Earth).  That&#8217;s my final answer.</p>
<p>The answer for why the stars are not visible makes perfectly good sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jopa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks BillM and Jim.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BillM and Jim.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/14/spectacular-space-photos-from-the-shuttle/comment-page-1/#comment-786949</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the line from the Star Trek movie, &quot;I&#039;m from Iowa, I only work in outer space!&quot;
WOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the line from the Star Trek movie, &#8220;I&#8217;m from Iowa, I only work in outer space!&#8221;<br />
WOW!</p>
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		<title>By: JoJo Dancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoJo Dancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim Scarborough - Not to completely deny your explanation for the position of the sun. But your saying that in space, with nothing around and in direct exposure to the sun, that there would still be diffusion of light?

Because here on earth, even with the several layers of atmosphere we have, I somehow get very hard shadows and washed out brights when shooting on a clear sky type of day. I would have to use some sort of diffuser to soften the light. Like shooting around trees, holding diffusers above subject, bouncing light from source etc. 

Sunlight on a clear day will always have to be diffused in one way or another to reach the type of soft tones and shadows acquired like these images. So if your saying the sun is directly behind them, then what is diffusing the sunlight?

I still say we have no logical answer to the source of light in question.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim Scarborough &#8211; Not to completely deny your explanation for the position of the sun. But your saying that in space, with nothing around and in direct exposure to the sun, that there would still be diffusion of light?</p>
<p>Because here on earth, even with the several layers of atmosphere we have, I somehow get very hard shadows and washed out brights when shooting on a clear sky type of day. I would have to use some sort of diffuser to soften the light. Like shooting around trees, holding diffusers above subject, bouncing light from source etc. </p>
<p>Sunlight on a clear day will always have to be diffused in one way or another to reach the type of soft tones and shadows acquired like these images. So if your saying the sun is directly behind them, then what is diffusing the sunlight?</p>
<p>I still say we have no logical answer to the source of light in question.</p>
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