Comments on: Will Apple make “bricks” out of unlocked iPhones?! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797998 pedro Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:39:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797998 Who's pointing at disingenious questions? Who’s pointing at disingenious questions?

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797749 OhForTheLoveOf Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:21:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797749 #38 - I think you know what I mean and your "question" is at best, disingenuous. #38 – I think you know what I mean and your “question” is at best, disingenuous.

]]> By: Frank IBC http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797739 Frank IBC Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:11:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797739 <blockquote>Apple is a corporation. The only ones who can break laws in the United States are citizens. Corporations are immune to law. </blockquote> So I guess in your opinion, the pilot of the Exxon Valdez should have been forced to pay the cost of cleanup of the Alaskan coast, out of his own pocket?

Apple is a corporation. The only ones who can break laws in the United States are citizens. Corporations are immune to law.

So I guess in your opinion, the pilot of the Exxon Valdez should have been forced to pay the cost of cleanup of the Alaskan coast, out of his own pocket?

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797723 Mr. Fusion Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:01:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797723 #36, Gregory, <i>Poor choice for posting SN, this is an Uncle Dave post at best. </i> Phukhat. There is nothing wrong about this topic. Several people found it interesting enough to post something. Remember, if you don't have anything to say, don't say it. #36, Gregory,

Poor choice for posting SN, this is an Uncle Dave post at best.

Phukhat. There is nothing wrong about this topic. Several people found it interesting enough to post something. Remember, if you don’t have anything to say, don’t say it.

]]> By: Gregory http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797619 Gregory Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:31:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797619 1 - The article is a big pile of FUD 2 - see above. As soon as I saw the amount of weasel words in the extract I knew it to be bullshit. Yes Apple MIGHT brick phones, just as we MIGHT get unlimited amounts of sunshine from an orange. Are either of these likely, or do they have any evidence of happening? No. Poor choice for posting SN, this is an Uncle Dave post at best. 1 – The article is a big pile of FUD
2 – see above.

As soon as I saw the amount of weasel words in the extract I knew it to be bullshit.

Yes Apple MIGHT brick phones, just as we MIGHT get unlimited amounts of sunshine from an orange. Are either of these likely, or do they have any evidence of happening? No.

Poor choice for posting SN, this is an Uncle Dave post at best.

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797473 OhForTheLoveOf Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:06:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797473 #32 - I always enjoy reading an unbiased, objective opinion. #32 – I always enjoy reading an unbiased, objective opinion.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797264 pedro Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:03:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797264 #29 mac may have risen its marketshare a bit. But that's explainable with just one word: bootcamp. And if something you bought on a mac store doesn't work with a mac, let me know. #29 mac may have risen its marketshare a bit. But that’s explainable with just one word: bootcamp. And if something you bought on a mac store doesn’t work with a mac, let me know.

]]> By: TIHZ_HO http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797066 TIHZ_HO Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:59:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797066 #29 "I’m always running into folks that have Windows at work, because they have to, and a Mac at home - when they make the choice. " Funny from my experience it was the other way around with so many people I know in advertising. Two very good friends of mine who are very good graphic designers both use Macs at work but have PCs at home. So WTF? #32 "...screaming bald moron..." Steve Jobs? WTF? Cheers #29 “I’m always running into folks that have Windows at work, because they have to, and a Mac at home – when they make the choice. ”

Funny from my experience it was the other way around with so many people I know in advertising. Two very good friends of mine who are very good graphic designers both use Macs at work but have PCs at home. So WTF?

#32 “…screaming bald moron…” Steve Jobs? WTF?

Cheers

]]> By: NappyHeadedHo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-797008 NappyHeadedHo Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:15:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-797008 #27 - Microsoft is called the "evil empire" basically because they suck. They suck because of that screaming bald moron that proves the rate of the pack is determined by the speed of the leader. #27 – Microsoft is called the “evil empire” basically because they suck. They suck because of that screaming bald moron that proves the rate of the pack is determined by the speed of the leader.

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-796897 Mike Voice Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:44:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-796897 Funny how the FUD in the linked-article only points to how popular the iPhone is... and that the <b>only</b> two things holding-back sales are the price, and the 2-year AT&T lock-in. They've already lowered the price - not enough, but its a good start - and only have to pay just-enough lip-service to blocking hacks, to keep AT&T execs from blowing a gasket. Kick-backs from AT&T is chump-change compared to what Apple could get if a significant number of people feel it is safe to buy an iPhone - with the express intention of using it on networks other than AT&T's. And its not like 100% of iPhone buyers will hack their phone, so AT&T will still be signing-up a steady flow of new iPhone users - and Apple will still get a ton-o-cash from AT&T. <i>...there's <b>virtually</b> nothing stopping them from making sure that the unlocks mysteriously stop working.</i> What a crock of cripes. "virtually nothing"??? "mysteriously"??? How about class-action lawsuits out the ying-yang after they <i>flagrantly</i> ignore a recent legal exemption to the DCMA? The Copyright Office's exemption to the DMCA means Apple can screw with the people providing/selling the unlocking software - which is still a violation of the DMCA - but they can't screw with consumers who unlock their phones for the purpose of using them on another network. Funny how the FUD in the linked-article only points to how popular the iPhone is… and that the only two things holding-back sales are the price, and the 2-year AT&T lock-in.

They’ve already lowered the price – not enough, but its a good start – and only have to pay just-enough lip-service to blocking hacks, to keep AT&T execs from blowing a gasket.

Kick-backs from AT&T is chump-change compared to what Apple could get if a significant number of people feel it is safe to buy an iPhone – with the express intention of using it on networks other than AT&T’s.

And its not like 100% of iPhone buyers will hack their phone, so AT&T will still be signing-up a steady flow of new iPhone users – and Apple will still get a ton-o-cash from AT&T.

…there’s virtually nothing stopping them from making sure that the unlocks mysteriously stop working.

What a crock of cripes.
“virtually nothing”???
“mysteriously”???
How about class-action lawsuits out the ying-yang after they flagrantly ignore a recent legal exemption to the DCMA?

The Copyright Office’s exemption to the DMCA means Apple can screw with the people providing/selling the unlocking software – which is still a violation of the DMCA – but they can’t screw with consumers who unlock their phones for the purpose of using them on another network.

]]> By: Axtell http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-796868 Axtell Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:19:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-796868 I love it...apple is simply protecting their hardware. Don't want to be locked into their hardware or AT&T's network, don't buy the iPhone. It's pretty easy, really. I love it…apple is simply protecting their hardware.

Don’t want to be locked into their hardware or AT&T’s network, don’t buy the iPhone.

It’s pretty easy, really.

]]> By: lakelady http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-796835 lakelady Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:30:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-796835 #27 that article is one of the more absurd ones I've ever read. No one switched? Wrong - maybe not large corporations but lots of individuals have. I'm always running into folks that have Windows at work, because they have to, and a Mac at home - when they make the choice. Plenty of others are choosing Macs instead of Windows machines. Small gains in market share but certainly not none. Peripherials not working? What a joke. I've never purchased a peripheral that didn't work EASILY on a Mac. Everyone I know who uses Windows is always moaning about having to install this or that driver etc. What's John been smoking? #27 that article is one of the more absurd ones I’ve ever read. No one switched? Wrong – maybe not large corporations but lots of individuals have. I’m always running into folks that have Windows at work, because they have to, and a Mac at home – when they make the choice. Plenty of others are choosing Macs instead of Windows machines. Small gains in market share but certainly not none. Peripherials not working? What a joke. I’ve never purchased a peripheral that didn’t work EASILY on a Mac. Everyone I know who uses Windows is always moaning about having to install this or that driver etc. What’s John been smoking?

]]> By: GregA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-796814 GregA Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:08:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-796814 Wow... I bricked my second phone this year last week. I am having a bad year for phones. Even at $400 this phone is simply too expensive for my blood. Once they get down to the $150 dollar range I am there, but for now, for an actual cell phone user... simply too much money. Wow… I bricked my second phone this year last week. I am having a bad year for phones. Even at $400 this phone is simply too expensive for my blood. Once they get down to the $150 dollar range I am there, but for now, for an actual cell phone user… simply too much money.

]]> By: TIHZ_HO http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-796788 TIHZ_HO Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:36:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-796788 Why is Microsoft called the evil empire? Apple is a hardware company whose intention is to lock the user into everything Apple. Read John's article on the future of Apple as is quite interesting. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1923151,00.asp Cheers Why is Microsoft called the evil empire?

Apple is a hardware company whose intention is to lock the user into everything Apple.

Read John’s article on the future of Apple as is quite interesting.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1923151,00.asp

Cheers

]]> By: OvenMaster http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/09/20/will-apple-make-bricks-out-of-unlocked-iphones/comment-page-2/#comment-796708 OvenMaster Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:53:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13723#comment-796708 Why, oh why, do the people that hack things or find workarounds always blare their triumphs from the highest mountaintop? To share their success with others, yes, but doing so also attracts unwanted attention. In this case, Apple's. I've hacked a few items, found workarounds, etc, but I keep my mouth shut. Call me selfish, but at least what I've done to some of my possessions doesn't attract the attention of The Powers That Be. I check on the internets to see if what I've done has been done by someone else already, but if there's no mention of it, well then, I guess I've found buried treasure.. Why, oh why, do the people that hack things or find workarounds always blare their triumphs from the highest mountaintop? To share their success with others, yes, but doing so also attracts unwanted attention. In this case, Apple’s. I’ve hacked a few items, found workarounds, etc, but I keep my mouth shut. Call me selfish, but at least what I’ve done to some of my possessions doesn’t attract the attention of The Powers That Be. I check on the internets to see if what I’ve done has been done by someone else already, but if there’s no mention of it, well then, I guess I’ve found buried treasure..

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