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	<title>Comments on: Harvard Sez: Media Elite&#8217;s Campaign News More Biased than Talk Radio</title>
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		<title>By: MrMartini</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/10/31/harvard-sez-media-elites-campaign-news-more-biased-than-talk-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-853787</link>
		<dc:creator>MrMartini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it so hard to admit that the news media has an inherent disposition toward liberals and against conservatives.  It is a fact of life that we all know and live with on a daily basis.  

It&#039;s funny how much time the media spends trying to argue that they are not biased at all.  The cause is very simple - they don&#039;t consider themselves to be biased, just enlightened.  It&#039;s not as much about liberal or conservative to them as it is about right and wrong - they are right and conservatives are wrong.  That&#039;s not bias, that&#039;s just commons sense right?

Of course there is no place for religion in a modern society.
Of course there should be government-funded medical insurance for all Americans.
Of course the war in Iraq was based on lies and serves no purpose other than making George Bush&#039;s cronies rich.
Of course anyone who opposes gay marriage is a knuckle-dragging bigot.
Of course a fetus is not a person and is not entitled to protection under the law.
Of course the rich should be heavily taxed in order to improve the inequity of wealth in America.
Of course Hillary Clinton will be the next president.

It&#039;s as plain as the nose on your face - right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it so hard to admit that the news media has an inherent disposition toward liberals and against conservatives.  It is a fact of life that we all know and live with on a daily basis.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how much time the media spends trying to argue that they are not biased at all.  The cause is very simple &#8211; they don&#8217;t consider themselves to be biased, just enlightened.  It&#8217;s not as much about liberal or conservative to them as it is about right and wrong &#8211; they are right and conservatives are wrong.  That&#8217;s not bias, that&#8217;s just commons sense right?</p>
<p>Of course there is no place for religion in a modern society.<br />
Of course there should be government-funded medical insurance for all Americans.<br />
Of course the war in Iraq was based on lies and serves no purpose other than making George Bush&#8217;s cronies rich.<br />
Of course anyone who opposes gay marriage is a knuckle-dragging bigot.<br />
Of course a fetus is not a person and is not entitled to protection under the law.<br />
Of course the rich should be heavily taxed in order to improve the inequity of wealth in America.<br />
Of course Hillary Clinton will be the next president.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as plain as the nose on your face &#8211; right?</p>
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		<title>By: OhForTheLoveOf</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhForTheLoveOf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 - Was she a terrible candidate? I don&#039;t know. 

Anyway, as for this so called &quot;forgone conclusion&quot; that Senator Clinton will be the next President... I don&#039;t buy it. We aren&#039;t anywhere near knowing that. Too much can still happen, and there are still better candidates now.

For me, Richardson and Biden are far better choices, and like Bill Clinton in 92, they still have plenty of time to rise. 

Maybe Hillary Clinton would be a good President, but I&#039;m not behind her because I oppose her on several issues that are key to me, most notably First Amendment issues. But I do know that she is not a shoe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 &#8211; Was she a terrible candidate? I don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>Anyway, as for this so called &#8220;forgone conclusion&#8221; that Senator Clinton will be the next President&#8230; I don&#8217;t buy it. We aren&#8217;t anywhere near knowing that. Too much can still happen, and there are still better candidates now.</p>
<p>For me, Richardson and Biden are far better choices, and like Bill Clinton in 92, they still have plenty of time to rise. </p>
<p>Maybe Hillary Clinton would be a good President, but I&#8217;m not behind her because I oppose her on several issues that are key to me, most notably First Amendment issues. But I do know that she is not a shoe in.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DBR, keep thinking up excuses.  The fact is the media plays up liberal Democrats all the time.  Perhaps this type of attention for Elizabeth Dole would have gotten her further along in the primaries, though she was a terrible candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DBR, keep thinking up excuses.  The fact is the media plays up liberal Democrats all the time.  Perhaps this type of attention for Elizabeth Dole would have gotten her further along in the primaries, though she was a terrible candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the media is so liberal, why is &quot;liberal&quot; a dirty word in the media?

Sheesh.  Just another example of the right-wing wackos trying to &quot;work the refs&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the media is so liberal, why is &#8220;liberal&#8221; a dirty word in the media?</p>
<p>Sheesh.  Just another example of the right-wing wackos trying to &#8220;work the refs&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: grog</title>
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		<dc:creator>grog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>every news outlet caters to their subscription/viewership base and skews their news accordingly

it&#039;s called supply and demand -- &lt;b&gt;people only believe and will only pay for what they want to hear and are automatically skeptical of anything that differs from their personal beliefs.&lt;/b&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every news outlet caters to their subscription/viewership base and skews their news accordingly</p>
<p>it&#8217;s called supply and demand &#8212; <b>people only believe and will only pay for what they want to hear and are automatically skeptical of anything that differs from their personal beliefs.</b></p>
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		<title>By: OhForTheLoveOf</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhForTheLoveOf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8 - &lt;i&gt;TV news is biased mainly because they get their stories from the New York Times, which is very biased. 

Biased... toward the truth.

Typically, the accusation of liberal bias comes from right wingers who are complaining the the corruption, deception, criminal negligence, nepotism, moral double standards, and outright thievery of the right is being reported in the first place. 

I&#039;m in favor of this bias.

#17 - &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;(other than Ralph Nader, who suffers mightily from a combination of righteous indignation coupled with excessive dorkiness)&lt;/i&gt;

He also suffers from being right and from being the most successful citizen activist in the known universe... I can&#039;t quite understand why Americans hate smart, honest, and successful candidates.

#18 - &lt;i&gt;They needed to fund a study to figure this out? I could have told them this for free!&lt;/i&gt;

There was no &quot;study&quot;  It&#039;s just right wing blow hards doing what they do best... blowing hard... most likely in a men&#039;s room at the airport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 &#8211; <i>TV news is biased mainly because they get their stories from the New York Times, which is very biased. </p>
<p>Biased&#8230; toward the truth.</p>
<p>Typically, the accusation of liberal bias comes from right wingers who are complaining the the corruption, deception, criminal negligence, nepotism, moral double standards, and outright thievery of the right is being reported in the first place. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in favor of this bias.</p>
<p>#17 &#8211; </i><i>(other than Ralph Nader, who suffers mightily from a combination of righteous indignation coupled with excessive dorkiness)</i></p>
<p>He also suffers from being right and from being the most successful citizen activist in the known universe&#8230; I can&#8217;t quite understand why Americans hate smart, honest, and successful candidates.</p>
<p>#18 &#8211; <i>They needed to fund a study to figure this out? I could have told them this for free!</i></p>
<p>There was no &#8220;study&#8221;  It&#8217;s just right wing blow hards doing what they do best&#8230; blowing hard&#8230; most likely in a men&#8217;s room at the airport.</p>
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		<title>By: gregallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; BOB Rush, Savage, Hartmann, Rhodes, O’Reiley etc. are not news people, I wish people get that through their heads, they are commentators, who in most cases will even tell you that what they say is opinion not news.

I could accept what you say, if if weren&#039;t that the right wingers are always telling us that THEY are the fair and balanced truthful counterpart to the &quot;MSM&quot;. 

So I suppose if you ONLY count the +- 5% of right wing talk radio that is hard news, maybe this report might be possible.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; BOB Rush, Savage, Hartmann, Rhodes, O’Reiley etc. are not news people, I wish people get that through their heads, they are commentators, who in most cases will even tell you that what they say is opinion not news.</p>
<p>I could accept what you say, if if weren&#8217;t that the right wingers are always telling us that THEY are the fair and balanced truthful counterpart to the &#8220;MSM&#8221;. </p>
<p>So I suppose if you ONLY count the +- 5% of right wing talk radio that is hard news, maybe this report might be possible.</p>
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		<title>By: tcc3</title>
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		<dc:creator>tcc3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also seems that not towing the Republican Party line gets organizations labeled as liberal. Its the same digital &quot;with us or again&#039; us&quot; attutude that pervades the whole system.

Disagreeing with Rush does not = liberal bias. As much as he would like you to believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also seems that not towing the Republican Party line gets organizations labeled as liberal. Its the same digital &#8220;with us or again&#8217; us&#8221; attutude that pervades the whole system.</p>
<p>Disagreeing with Rush does not = liberal bias. As much as he would like you to believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They needed to fund a study to figure this out? I could have told them this for free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They needed to fund a study to figure this out? I could have told them this for free!</p>
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		<title>By: David Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that &quot;A study published at Harvard says&quot;, not &quot;Harvard says&quot;. I would love to see an actual liberal show up anywhere on a campaign ticket (other than Ralph Nader, who suffers mightily from a combination of righteous indignation coupled with excessive dorkiness)  There is no real left in american politics...we&#039;re dancing with two right feet.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that &#8220;A study published at Harvard says&#8221;, not &#8220;Harvard says&#8221;. I would love to see an actual liberal show up anywhere on a campaign ticket (other than Ralph Nader, who suffers mightily from a combination of righteous indignation coupled with excessive dorkiness)  There is no real left in american politics&#8230;we&#8217;re dancing with two right feet.</p>
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		<title>By: DBR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeN:

Per Wikipedia,
&quot;Elizabeth Dole ran for the Republican nomination in the US presidential election of 2000, but pulled out of the race in October 1999 before any of the primaries, largely due to inadequate fundraising.&quot;

I think that the newsmedia of the time just realized that
they would look foolish giving much promotion to
a feeble and quixotic ambition.

She didn&#039;t even last long enough to be interesting. And what
Wikipedia doesn&#039;t seem to remember. but I do, she had her
campaign legs surgically and firmly removed by her own
party, which seemed to had gotten a case of the vapors
when it actually realized they might be nominating
a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeN:</p>
<p>Per Wikipedia,<br />
&#8220;Elizabeth Dole ran for the Republican nomination in the US presidential election of 2000, but pulled out of the race in October 1999 before any of the primaries, largely due to inadequate fundraising.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that the newsmedia of the time just realized that<br />
they would look foolish giving much promotion to<br />
a feeble and quixotic ambition.</p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t even last long enough to be interesting. And what<br />
Wikipedia doesn&#8217;t seem to remember. but I do, she had her<br />
campaign legs surgically and firmly removed by her own<br />
party, which seemed to had gotten a case of the vapors<br />
when it actually realized they might be nominating<br />
a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: GregA</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13,

Steve Forbs tax plan was wacky.  In fact for my entire life, all conservative/republican tax policy has been whack.  There hasn&#039;t been a time in my life where there was a balanced budget with a Republican president.  

Considering American has been overwhelmingly conservative for the last 30 years and it is literally falling apart and bankrupt, don&#039;t you think it is time for you people to stand down and let responsible adults take charge for a while?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13,</p>
<p>Steve Forbs tax plan was wacky.  In fact for my entire life, all conservative/republican tax policy has been whack.  There hasn&#8217;t been a time in my life where there was a balanced budget with a Republican president.  </p>
<p>Considering American has been overwhelmingly conservative for the last 30 years and it is literally falling apart and bankrupt, don&#8217;t you think it is time for you people to stand down and let responsible adults take charge for a while?</p>
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		<title>By: GregA</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well since conservatives/republicans stand for anonymous bathroom stall ass buggery and are pro-treason this is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well since conservatives/republicans stand for anonymous bathroom stall ass buggery and are pro-treason this is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill you&#039;ve identified why theres so much media bias.  They half the time dont even know theyre doing it, it just makes sense to them that certain things are right and good.  Way back when, one media person said she couldnt believe Nixon won since everyone she knew voted for McGovern.  It&#039;s this sort of cocooning that gets them to label steve forbes tax plan as wacky or Hillary inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill you&#8217;ve identified why theres so much media bias.  They half the time dont even know theyre doing it, it just makes sense to them that certain things are right and good.  Way back when, one media person said she couldnt believe Nixon won since everyone she knew voted for McGovern.  It&#8217;s this sort of cocooning that gets them to label steve forbes tax plan as wacky or Hillary inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mask of one face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mask of one face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only truth is Death and Taxes. Anything else is just interpretations of illusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only truth is Death and Taxes. Anything else is just interpretations of illusions.</p>
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