Cleaning up after a car bomb
Great! It looks like we’re getting an AG who doesn’t know if waterboarding is torture (despite it having been considered so in the past by the US), we’re not condemning Musharraf‘s dictatorly actions, and now it’s possible the Iraqi Surge’s main success was in ethnic cleansing. It sure is comforting that US policy is a shining beacon to the rest of the world grounded as it is in human and democratic rights!
The dark side of Iraq’s good news
A new set of data from Iraq shows Iraqi civilian deaths on the decline, from 2,800 in January 2007 to about 800 last month. Other reports reveal that tens of thousands of Iraqis have joined local auxiliary forces to secure their neighborhoods and that U.S. forces continue to kill or capture many of the insurgency’s top leaders. Violence is down sharply in most areas. In Baghdad, troops report weeks without a roadside bomb in neighborhoods that used to be hit every day; and in Anbar, things are so good the Marines held a 5K race on the streets of Ramadi two weeks ago.
Still, the truth behind these numbers is elusive. It’s near impossible to discern whether they reflect the success of our military operations or some larger, deeper trends in Iraqi society, such as the success of the Shiite campaign to rid Baghdad of its Sunni residents. The situation does present a paradox, however. If the surge is the reason, as the generals claim, we’re in trouble, because the surge is about to end. If Iraqi reconciliation and ethnic cleansing get primary credit, and the surge is mostly acting as a catalyst, our inevitable drawdown over the next six months to pre-surge levels may not be catastrophic, because the positive trends result more from Iraqi societal shifts and less from American soldiers brokering the peace.
It would be unseemly for Lt. Gen. Odierno to claim credit for ethnic cleansing, or to find a silver lining in the deaths of thousands of Sunnis, but this is the unavoidable, if unspoken, truth about the decline of violence in Baghdad.
right, thats why you were delete… for gods sake, go get a brain transplant or maybe hire some Mexican to do posting for you, because you can’t do even that right LOL
#21, 887 ½
You don’t measure up. OFTLO left more intelligence in his last dump than you have in your entire brain.
#22 yeah, keep patting him on the back fellow american…
maybe there still is hope for you USA-nians after all
Space aliens and their evil Plan 9!
Say, uh, how are the British doing down in south Iraq?
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Disagreeing with the stupid son of a bitch that attacked the wrong country and destabilized the Middle East and increased the threat to America and is trashing our economy is not unpatriotic. In fact, its every GOOD citizen’s duty.[/quote]
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The White House Monkey didn’t attack wrong country LOL
He took down the biggest threat to Israel in the Middle East at that time.
If you think Iraq was a threat to Boy Scout Troop 42 of Beavercreek, Ohio, let alone Iraq, then I’m not the idiot in this conversation.[/quote]
someone already told you
- are you retarded? What you dont understand here?
He knew exactly what he was doing and why.
For details of “why” you should write to Knesseth, Jerusalem, Israel.
Well we’ve already had one Democrat Congressman admit that success in Iraq is a real problem for them.
reasons to piss on this report: it’s in slate.
OFTLO….not all Democrats are hoping for a loss on our part, just like not all Republicans are neo-cons. But all it takes is a few quick keystrokes to read the comments made by Pelosi and Reid since the elections to know where THEY stand. And there a few Republican names to go next to their’s as well. Lugar for one.
The surge is what should have been policy from the moment Bush discovered he screwed up, but thanks to Cheney and Rumsfield it took 3 years to happen.
I’m all for whatever is causing the deaths to go down and put’s us closer to leaving the lovely Iraq. Unlike Slate, I won’t be making up reasons why things have been changing to cover my ass. To bad they didn’t notice all the things that were changing even before the surge.
And where in the hell are all these anti-semites coming from????
You guy’s part of the Al Quieda internet hate brigade???
I think I hear your Imam calling.
Great joke from the intertubies.
Bush sneaks out to a bar in D.C.
Guy walks in, says to the bartender….**Isn’t that Bush over there**?
Bartender say’s…*yep*
Guy walks over to Bush…..*It’s an honor to meet you sir. What are you doing here?**
Bush say’s…..*I’m planning WWIII*
Guy say’s …..**wow!!! Whats going to happen?**
Bush say’s…..**I’m going to wipe out 140 million Muslim’s and 1 blonde with big tit’s.**
Guy say’s…….**Why you going to kill the blonde with big tit’s?**
Bush say’s to the bartender…….**See, I told you no one would give a damn about the 140 million Muslim’s!!!**
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THEN why did we go there, IF NOT to help the people??
for OIL?
Because someone SAID there were WMD’s
Because he killed 1000 people is a Mass killing? That pissed off the Sunni?
WHY??
31 / ECA
your mighty war machine rolled over arabs to help people of Israel feel safer, not to help people of Iraq to get rid of tyranny half of them supported wholeheartedly anyways.
#28, Joshua,
… I won’t be making up reasons why things have been changing to cover my ass.
Whoa, you are changing your normal way of posting ??? Holy Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick !!! The Haldol must be working.
#29, Joshua,
And where in the hell are all these anti-semites coming from????
Oopps, maybe the Haldol isn’t working.
#30, Joshua,
See my response for #29.
How is that whole Iraq thing going for you guys anyway?
theres nothing wrong with ethnic cleansing – as long as you’re not on the recieving end of it…
According to Stephen Colbert, race and skin are similar, but skin cleansing is good and race cleansing is bad.
#28 – OFTLO….not all Democrats are hoping for a loss on our part,
My point is that none of them are…
Our nation has serious problems.
Not everyone on the right is a problem. But everyone who is a problem is on the right.
#26 – - are you retarded? What you dont understand here?
He knew exactly what he was doing and why.
For details of “why” you should write to Knesseth, Jerusalem, Israel.
It isn’t what I don’t understand… it’s what shit are you shoveling? Iraq was a broken nation with all the military might of a civil war reenactment weekend… And Isreal is a bad ass muther fucker that has beaten the unholy crap out of Arab aggressors for half a century…
Meanwhile, the guys who attacked America remain unpunished and free to operate with no credible attempt to bring them to justice…
What the fuck don’t you understand? Those of us who oppose this war and this corrupt administration aren’t doing it because we dream of flowers and sunshine and little Arab children playing with little American children… We do it because we want Bin Laden’s head on a stick and no one in the White House cares about that… They are simply funneling tax dollars to Haliburton and Blackwater while drawing up plans to put the Bush Presidential Library in Dubai, Saudi Arabia.
Almost 500 billion wasted, not to mention the lives of American soldiers sacrificed to the Bush/Cheney retirement fund, and on top of unavenged I have to also feel fleeced…
No Democrats? Here’s a member of the Democrat leadership:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlr3gG8q0nw
#38 – Huh?
I saw a guy ask a question, but only the first sentence of an answer. What the hell was the answer?
I stand by my statement until you produce something that isn’t edited to say something it probably doesn’t. I mean, I know you think I’m dumb, but just how dumb do you imagine I am?
You can look up the transcript if you want, but it’s pretty obvious from the video. The Democrats want out of Iraq, and a positive report from Petraeus would be a real big problem for us. He’s putting the Democrats’ political agenda ahead of success in Iraq.