Comments on: Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/ General interest observations and true web-log. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:14:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gary Marks http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-864570 Gary Marks Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:44:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-864570 Thanks Mr. Fusion -- I thought I'd be ashamed, making fun of mental illness, but it felt pretty good! Thanks Mr. Fusion — I thought I’d be ashamed, making fun of mental illness, but it felt pretty good!

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-864536 Mr. Fusion Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:43:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-864536 #16, Gary, I have to admit, that was cute. It got a good chuckle out of me. #16, Gary,

I have to admit, that was cute. It got a good chuckle out of me.

]]> By: Gary Marks http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-864204 Gary Marks Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:49:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-864204 #15 Yep, the same brand of "crazy" that allowed Robertson to draw a straight line between Ariel Sharon's stroke and his policy of "dividing God's land" by withdrawing settlements from Gaza and parts of the West Bank. Apparently, Sharon was God's property manager and wasn't doing a very good job in Robertson's eyes ;-) #15 Yep, the same brand of “crazy” that allowed Robertson to draw a straight line between Ariel Sharon’s stroke and his policy of “dividing God’s land” by withdrawing settlements from Gaza and parts of the West Bank. Apparently, Sharon was God’s property manager and wasn’t doing a very good job in Robertson’s eyes ;-)

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-864173 OhForTheLoveOf Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:23:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-864173 #14 - <i>Robertson’s primary and overriding concern is fighting the rise of Islamic fundamentalism abroad,</i> Because in Robertson's world, there is only room for one kind of fundamentalist extremism. #14 – Robertson’s primary and overriding concern is fighting the rise of Islamic fundamentalism abroad,

Because in Robertson’s world, there is only room for one kind of fundamentalist extremism.

]]> By: Gary Marks http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-864043 Gary Marks Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:53:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-864043 Robertson's primary and overriding concern is fighting the rise of Islamic fundamentalism abroad, but his support for Giuliani seems to undermine Robertson's own position that old fashioned Christian values at home are what makes America strongest. No one said that intellectual and moral consistency is a requirement to be a politically active religious leader. I'm sure Robertson prayed long and hard about this, and God told him that Giuliani is the best candidate. Be sure to cast your ballots accordingly so God doesn't have to tinker with the results again. Robertson’s primary and overriding concern is fighting the rise of Islamic fundamentalism abroad, but his support for Giuliani seems to undermine Robertson’s own position that old fashioned Christian values at home are what makes America strongest. No one said that intellectual and moral consistency is a requirement to be a politically active religious leader.

I’m sure Robertson prayed long and hard about this, and God told him that Giuliani is the best candidate. Be sure to cast your ballots accordingly so God doesn’t have to tinker with the results again.

]]> By: jlm http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-863820 jlm Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:08:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-863820 seems like they would have learned their lesson from last time seems like they would have learned their lesson from last time

]]> By: James Armstrong http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-863354 James Armstrong Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:01:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-863354 What, you couldn't photoshop that finger? You're not even trying. :-( What, you couldn’t photoshop that finger?
You’re not even trying. :-(

]]> By: Bryan Price http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-863259 Bryan Price Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:07:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-863259 #3, you're counting on the dollar lasting that long. Bush is going to be eating that problem. I'll be surprised if it lasts to election day, but certain before the inauguration. The real problem(s) are the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (and Iran if we really get unlucky!). Just because of handling them, the next president is a one termer. It won't matter if the path doesn't change or we start pulling out right after the inauguration. It's a no win situation all around. #3, you’re counting on the dollar lasting that long. Bush is going to be eating that problem. I’ll be surprised if it lasts to election day, but certain before the inauguration.

The real problem(s) are the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (and Iran if we really get unlucky!). Just because of handling them, the next president is a one termer. It won’t matter if the path doesn’t change or we start pulling out right after the inauguration. It’s a no win situation all around.

]]> By: Greg Allen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-863256 Greg Allen Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:03:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-863256 This really chaps my hiney. As a liberal Democrat but also an Evangelical Christian, I was seriously beat-on by the other Evangelicals for supporting Bill Clinton. Who could I support a someone who was personally immoral, they lectured me again and again. No, I didn't support extramarital blow jobs, I explained, but in other ways he represents my values as a Christian. These conservatives would have nothing to do with that logic. That was then. Now that's EXACTLY what they are doing when they support Giuliani who, best I can tell, has worse personal ethics than Clinton. This really chaps my hiney.

As a liberal Democrat but also an Evangelical Christian, I was seriously beat-on by the other Evangelicals for supporting Bill Clinton.

Who could I support a someone who was personally immoral, they lectured me again and again. No, I didn’t support extramarital blow jobs, I explained, but in other ways he represents my values as a Christian. These conservatives would have nothing to do with that logic. That was then.

Now that’s EXACTLY what they are doing when they support Giuliani who, best I can tell, has worse personal ethics than Clinton.

]]> By: OMG http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-863193 OMG Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:11:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-863193 Shit, we are fucked. America is going to hell. Shit, we are fucked.

America is going to hell.

]]> By: Les http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-863155 Les Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:51:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-863155 Doesn't he look constipated? Doesn’t he look constipated?

]]> By: doug http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-863043 doug Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:54:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-863043 look, they know it isnt about what Rudy himself actually believes - to keep the support of the trailer-park set and their televangelist overlords, if Rudy is elected, he will do their bidding to keep their support. they knew Bush 1 was not one of them, but they supported him anyway for the same reason. if Rudy is elected, his subservience will primarily entail replacing John Paul Stevens with a Thomas/Scalia/Roberts/Alito -type reactionary when the time comes. look, they know it isnt about what Rudy himself actually believes – to keep the support of the trailer-park set and their televangelist overlords, if Rudy is elected, he will do their bidding to keep their support. they knew Bush 1 was not one of them, but they supported him anyway for the same reason.

if Rudy is elected, his subservience will primarily entail replacing John Paul Stevens with a Thomas/Scalia/Roberts/Alito -type reactionary when the time comes.

]]> By: hhopper http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-862960 hhopper Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:07:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-862960 That's the kiss of death for Giuliani. That’s the kiss of death for Giuliani.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-862935 MikeN Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:53:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-862935 If it was just about hating the Mormon, he should have supported McCain or Thompson or Huckabee. If it was just about hating the Mormon, he should have supported McCain or Thompson or Huckabee.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/11/07/pat-robertson-endorses-giulianis-presidential-bid-los-angeles-times/comment-page-1/#comment-862934 MikeN Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:52:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14437#comment-862934 Well he wants to be a power broker of sorts. Well he wants to be a power broker of sorts.

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