Comments on: Pay-by-mobile phone starts in London

By: BRC

BRC — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:17:14 +0000

I just thought I would point out to all the non-Brits:

Oyster cards already exist. They are credit card sized, RFID cards, that you can topup all over london, and then use to pay instantly (at the barriers) for train and bus journeys.

This is simply taking that card, and plonking it in a phone – there will be absolutely no difference. It will still need to be in very close contact with the scanner, will still be toped up the same way.

The difference is rather than a thief having to steal your Oyster card and your phone, he can just steal the phone.

By: mike cannali

mike cannali — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:30:35 +0000

This sounds like RFID in the phone – similar to the cards used at the gas pump here in the US.
Problem with RFID – the RFID response code can also be read by anyone passing by you and then counterfieted.

By: genome895

genome895 — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:39:51 +0000

This is a bad idea altogether. People loose their phones or they are stolen all the time, and what about all the phones that are dropped in the toilet. How are you going to pay for anything then. It would be an interesting scene someone on a date at a fine restuarant go to the bathroom and like a million other idiots drop their phone in the toilet. Well there goes dinner; better try sneaking out the window.

By: BubbaRay

BubbaRay — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:50:15 +0000

#4, Improbus, “Thanks, I think I will use old fashioned cash.”

There is this myth that cash is still tender for all debts, public and private. May it remain so.

Until you try to write a check for a truck that’s $25 large. Then you run up against that “over $10,000″ baloney designed to stop drug traffic. Like that’s ever done any good.

By: Improbus

Improbus — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:29:59 +0000

Thanks, I think I will use old fashioned cash.

By: ijsbrand

ijsbrand — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:28:42 +0000

This is more interesting for pickpockets than for hackers, I reckon. Most of these “pay with your phone” pilots use near field tech, or in other words, simply a RFID-chip in the phone.

Granted, RFID communication could be read from a greater distance with a tweaked receiver, perhaps, for which some hacking would be needed. But I do think that’s so obvious, something wii have been found to overcome that security flaw.

No, just think how much more even the most plebeian phone will be worth, to steal, if it’s a wallet as well.

By: moss

moss — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:59:33 +0000

Meet you at the Waterworks Museum. Or Upton Park.

By: eyeofthetiger

eyeofthetiger — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:30:24 +0000

I have visions of large checks with an old hag in watermark print. Marketing the human rat is getting so perplexing. I need to lay down. Wake me up when I get to touch the red button with honey. Eventually, London will reinvent itself into a synthetic sive. The Queen will outwear herself on the rabbit. Then we will go back to cobble stones and scenic fairy tale ventures out in wooden grooves.