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	<title>Comments on: The War is Over, for the Brits anyway</title>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/12/10/the-war-is-over-for-the-brits-anyway/comment-page-2/#comment-914877</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Prince Harry gets the call, it&#039;s time to withdraw. How could I make that any plainer? The UK couldn&#039;t keep him out of their draft system forever. But they could pull out of Iraq before he&#039;s put at risk for too long. So he ends up getting the Elvis treatment. A safe little job away from the real danger. You don&#039;t honestly believe that their gov&#039;t will risk Harry&#039;s neck, for Bush&#039;s war? Pul-lease!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Prince Harry gets the call, it&#8217;s time to withdraw. How could I make that any plainer? The UK couldn&#8217;t keep him out of their draft system forever. But they could pull out of Iraq before he&#8217;s put at risk for too long. So he ends up getting the Elvis treatment. A safe little job away from the real danger. You don&#8217;t honestly believe that their gov&#8217;t will risk Harry&#8217;s neck, for Bush&#8217;s war? Pul-lease!</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/12/10/the-war-is-over-for-the-brits-anyway/comment-page-2/#comment-913979</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, where do you get the silly notion that the World Wars were motivated by religion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, where do you get the silly notion that the World Wars were motivated by religion?</p>
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		<title>By: gregallen</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/12/10/the-war-is-over-for-the-brits-anyway/comment-page-2/#comment-912852</link>
		<dc:creator>gregallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillep said,  &lt;i&gt; Greg, Moslems have too long and bloody a record for me to put any effort into “healing our relationship with the Moslems”.  &lt;/i&gt;

Longer and bloodier than what other people?  

Longer and bloodier than Christian European culture? 

You say, &quot;Islam murdered more people in India alone than Christianity ever did. &quot;

Are you serious?  Take just ONE of our World Wars, let alone BOTH, and the Muslims can&#039;t beat that for body count. Not even close. 

You&#039;re kind of history revisionist bigotry is what makes societies suckers for wars. Don&#039;t let yourself be a pawn, like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillep said,  <i> Greg, Moslems have too long and bloody a record for me to put any effort into “healing our relationship with the Moslems”.  </i></p>
<p>Longer and bloodier than what other people?  </p>
<p>Longer and bloodier than Christian European culture? </p>
<p>You say, &#8220;Islam murdered more people in India alone than Christianity ever did. &#8221;</p>
<p>Are you serious?  Take just ONE of our World Wars, let alone BOTH, and the Muslims can&#8217;t beat that for body count. Not even close. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re kind of history revisionist bigotry is what makes societies suckers for wars. Don&#8217;t let yourself be a pawn, like that.</p>
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		<title>By: TIHZ_HO</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/12/10/the-war-is-over-for-the-brits-anyway/comment-page-2/#comment-912822</link>
		<dc:creator>TIHZ_HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pull out?  Doesn&#039;t sound manly to me...better leave it in there and get the job done! ;)

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pull out?  Doesn&#8217;t sound manly to me&#8230;better leave it in there and get the job done! <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: RickCain</title>
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		<dc:creator>RickCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its ironic that after Saddam Hussein fell, iraqi christians are now fleeing for their lives, leaving iraq in droves.  Iraq has had christians for 2000 years and it looks like this is the last swan song for their presence due to the USA invasion and occupation.
Iraq used to even have jews, but at last word there were 2 left, very old men who refuse to leave but I suspect they will get killed off by the Badr Brigades of the SCIRI which the USA put into power.

Mission Accomplished!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its ironic that after Saddam Hussein fell, iraqi christians are now fleeing for their lives, leaving iraq in droves.  Iraq has had christians for 2000 years and it looks like this is the last swan song for their presence due to the USA invasion and occupation.<br />
Iraq used to even have jews, but at last word there were 2 left, very old men who refuse to leave but I suspect they will get killed off by the Badr Brigades of the SCIRI which the USA put into power.</p>
<p>Mission Accomplished!</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;So something actually was being 
&gt;&gt;accomplished in Iraq BY MILITARY 
&gt;&gt;FORCES?

Not really, other than undoing the damage we inflicted by Dumbya&#039;s misguided invasion of the wrong fucking country.

&gt;&gt;The British are standing down as the 
&gt;&gt;Iraqis stand up, just as President 
&gt;&gt;Bush said.

Hey!  Are you Karl Rove?  Dick Cheney?  NOBODY else would say that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;So something actually was being<br />
&gt;&gt;accomplished in Iraq BY MILITARY<br />
&gt;&gt;FORCES?</p>
<p>Not really, other than undoing the damage we inflicted by Dumbya&#8217;s misguided invasion of the wrong fucking country.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;The British are standing down as the<br />
&gt;&gt;Iraqis stand up, just as President<br />
&gt;&gt;Bush said.</p>
<p>Hey!  Are you Karl Rove?  Dick Cheney?  NOBODY else would say that.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So something actually was being accomplished in Iraq BY MILITARY FORCES?  The British are standing down as the Iraqis stand up, just as President Bush said.  It&#039;s also happening with US troops too.  It&#039;s not just British forces that newly trained Iraqi security forces are replacing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So something actually was being accomplished in Iraq BY MILITARY FORCES?  The British are standing down as the Iraqis stand up, just as President Bush said.  It&#8217;s also happening with US troops too.  It&#8217;s not just British forces that newly trained Iraqi security forces are replacing.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, Moslems have too long and bloody a record for me to put any effort into &quot;healing our relationship with the Moslems&quot;. 

Islam was spread by conquest from Saudi Arabia, across (Christian) Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Ethiopia, Somolia, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco, Spain, Italy, Romania, and Ukrania, and that&#039;s just the Christian ones I&#039;m sure of. 

Islam also conquered Zoroastran Iraq, Buddhist Iran, Buddhist and Hindu Pakistan and India, I don&#039;t know what the other nations were along the south coast, but the Moslems did start murdering their way into Mindinao when the Spanish stopped them. 

Islam murdered more people in India alone than Christianity ever did. The murders continue. Not acts that are &quot;morally equivelent to murder&quot;, actual &quot;blood on the ground&quot; type murder. 

&quot;Heal relations&quot;? I&#039;m not going to sweat their hurt feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, Moslems have too long and bloody a record for me to put any effort into &#8220;healing our relationship with the Moslems&#8221;. </p>
<p>Islam was spread by conquest from Saudi Arabia, across (Christian) Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Ethiopia, Somolia, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco, Spain, Italy, Romania, and Ukrania, and that&#8217;s just the Christian ones I&#8217;m sure of. </p>
<p>Islam also conquered Zoroastran Iraq, Buddhist Iran, Buddhist and Hindu Pakistan and India, I don&#8217;t know what the other nations were along the south coast, but the Moslems did start murdering their way into Mindinao when the Spanish stopped them. </p>
<p>Islam murdered more people in India alone than Christianity ever did. The murders continue. Not acts that are &#8220;morally equivelent to murder&#8221;, actual &#8220;blood on the ground&#8221; type murder. </p>
<p>&#8220;Heal relations&#8221;? I&#8217;m not going to sweat their hurt feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliticallyVeryCorrect</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliticallyVeryCorrect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 what ya know, wrong country again?
well, third time a charm, so Iran must be it for sure :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 what ya know, wrong country again?<br />
well, third time a charm, so Iran must be it for sure <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gregallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillep said, &lt;i&gt; Does anyone besides the Brits think pulling out is going to buy them any slack from the Moslems? &lt;/i&gt;

The main reason to get our of Iraq is not &quot;slack from Moslems&quot;...

IT&#039;S BECAUSE BUSH INVADED TO THE WRONG COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

This will go down as one of the most stupid acts of foreign policy in the history of the USA and the sooner we can get out the better.

The fact that a withdrawal might allow us to, some day, heal our relationship with the Muslim world is also a benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillep said, <i> Does anyone besides the Brits think pulling out is going to buy them any slack from the Moslems? </i></p>
<p>The main reason to get our of Iraq is not &#8220;slack from Moslems&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>IT&#8217;S BECAUSE BUSH INVADED TO THE WRONG COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.</p>
<p>This will go down as one of the most stupid acts of foreign policy in the history of the USA and the sooner we can get out the better.</p>
<p>The fact that a withdrawal might allow us to, some day, heal our relationship with the Muslim world is also a benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: gregallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cons think the surge worked? Withdrawal works WAY WAY better!

&lt;i&gt;Britiain Credits Troop Withdrawal for Significant Drop In Attacks in Iraq

Friday, November 16, 2007

BAGHDAD  —  Attacks against British and Iraqi forces have plunged by 90 percent in southern Iraq since London withdrew its troops from the main city of Basra, the commander of British forces there said.

The presence of British forces in downtown Basra, Iraq&#039;s second-largest city, was the single largest instigator of violence, Maj. Gen. Graham Binns told reporters Thursday on a visit to Baghdad&#039;s Green Zone.

&quot;We thought, &#039;If 90 percent of the violence is directed at us, what would happen if we stepped back?&quot;&#039; Binns said.

Britain&#039;s 5,000 troops moved out of a former Saddam Hussein palace at Basra&#039;s heart in early September, setting up a garrison at an airport on the city&#039;s edge. Since that pullback, there&#039;s been a &quot;remarkable and dramatic drop in attacks,&quot; Binns said.

&quot;The motivation for attacking us was gone, because we&#039;re no longer patrolling the streets,&quot; he said. ,/i&gt;

http://tinyurl.com/3cssas

And before you kneejerk warmongers blame the &quot;libr&#039;l media,&quot; note that I used a report from FOX news.  

(you can tell by noting that the &quot;Britiain&quot; typo in a month-old report has yet to be noticed.)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cons think the surge worked? Withdrawal works WAY WAY better!</p>
<p><i>Britiain Credits Troop Withdrawal for Significant Drop In Attacks in Iraq</p>
<p>Friday, November 16, 2007</p>
<p>BAGHDAD  —  Attacks against British and Iraqi forces have plunged by 90 percent in southern Iraq since London withdrew its troops from the main city of Basra, the commander of British forces there said.</p>
<p>The presence of British forces in downtown Basra, Iraq&#8217;s second-largest city, was the single largest instigator of violence, Maj. Gen. Graham Binns told reporters Thursday on a visit to Baghdad&#8217;s Green Zone.</p>
<p>&#8220;We thought, &#8216;If 90 percent of the violence is directed at us, what would happen if we stepped back?&#8221;&#8216; Binns said.</p>
<p>Britain&#8217;s 5,000 troops moved out of a former Saddam Hussein palace at Basra&#8217;s heart in early September, setting up a garrison at an airport on the city&#8217;s edge. Since that pullback, there&#8217;s been a &#8220;remarkable and dramatic drop in attacks,&#8221; Binns said.</p>
<p>&#8220;The motivation for attacking us was gone, because we&#8217;re no longer patrolling the streets,&#8221; he said. ,/i&gt;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/3cssas" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/3cssas' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/3cssas</a></p>
<p>And before you kneejerk warmongers blame the &#8220;libr&#8217;l media,&#8221; note that I used a report from FOX news.  </p>
<p>(you can tell by noting that the &#8220;Britiain&#8221; typo in a month-old report has yet to be noticed.)</i></p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anybody left in the coalition other than Albania, East Timor and that turtle from the Galapagos Islands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anybody left in the coalition other than Albania, East Timor and that turtle from the Galapagos Islands?</p>
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		<title>By: PoliticallyVeryCorrect</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliticallyVeryCorrect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Happy Christmas – war is over.” The PM was cheered...

I wonder will they cheer him after another 7/7 happens in London?

No war is over until someone wins and someone loses. Oh well, Gordie doesn&#039;t have quarter the balls Thatcher had, thats for sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Happy Christmas – war is over.” The PM was cheered&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder will they cheer him after another 7/7 happens in London?</p>
<p>No war is over until someone wins and someone loses. Oh well, Gordie doesn&#8217;t have quarter the balls Thatcher had, thats for sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>eaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is clearly just playing to the crowd he could have done this months ago.

Another tick on his things to do before the election list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is clearly just playing to the crowd he could have done this months ago.</p>
<p>Another tick on his things to do before the election list.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone besides the Brits think pulling out is going to buy them any slack from the Moslems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone besides the Brits think pulling out is going to buy them any slack from the Moslems?</p>
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