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	<title>Comments on: Wider Domestic Spying Fuels Aid Plan for Telecom Industry</title>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even in the early 70&#039;s at Collins Radio, I was always nervous when the &quot;Black Suits&quot; walked in.  Just to attend meetings, I had to have a &quot;secret&quot; clearance.

Collins built ACD&#039;s and all the comm for NASA at the time, but I wondered about the deep technical interest they had in state-of-the-art ACDs and switching systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in the early 70&#8242;s at Collins Radio, I was always nervous when the &#8220;Black Suits&#8221; walked in.  Just to attend meetings, I had to have a &#8220;secret&#8221; clearance.</p>
<p>Collins built ACD&#8217;s and all the comm for NASA at the time, but I wondered about the deep technical interest they had in state-of-the-art ACDs and switching systems.</p>
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		<title>By: DeLeMa</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeLeMa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as more stories in this vein continue to proliferate..trust in all forms of law-enforcement within government will contiue to decline for more and more people/citizens. That&#039;s more than just too bad, so sad, that&#039;s potentially downright scary and I wander what special form of arrogance is required by the people responsible that can allow them to stoke the coming fires ? 

I guess we&#039;ll find out eventually, I hope I remember the hotdogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as more stories in this vein continue to proliferate..trust in all forms of law-enforcement within government will contiue to decline for more and more people/citizens. That&#8217;s more than just too bad, so sad, that&#8217;s potentially downright scary and I wander what special form of arrogance is required by the people responsible that can allow them to stoke the coming fires ? </p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;ll find out eventually, I hope I remember the hotdogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a telecom that is having to do this very thing, as of next year. Government has ordered it to be done by the 1st of the year. Sad the way things have gone downhill as fast as they have. And people wonder why I am so cynical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a telecom that is having to do this very thing, as of next year. Government has ordered it to be done by the 1st of the year. Sad the way things have gone downhill as fast as they have. And people wonder why I am so cynical.</p>
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		<title>By: T.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of back when I was in grade school in the late 1970&#039;s and early 1980&#039;s. We would put down the Soviet Union because they spied on most of their citizens and people had to live in paranoia and fear of their government.

So much for land of the free..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of back when I was in grade school in the late 1970&#8242;s and early 1980&#8242;s. We would put down the Soviet Union because they spied on most of their citizens and people had to live in paranoia and fear of their government.</p>
<p>So much for land of the free..</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First door on the left....one cross each.

Welcome to Amerika</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First door on the left&#8230;.one cross each.</p>
<p>Welcome to Amerika</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 what is your definition of crime?

Our government seems to have a very different interpretation than we lowly citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 what is your definition of crime?</p>
<p>Our government seems to have a very different interpretation than we lowly citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: GF</title>
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		<dc:creator>GF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Clinton got caught trying Carnivore but as you can see that isn’t stopping them. Has it ever? I knew Woodrow Wilson spied on other governments and business. He had an exchange under the White House that could listen in to all the phone traffic in D.C. In fact good ole Alberto uses him as an example as to why it&#039;s legal domestically. 

So, you may ask, with all this information why are they so inept at stopping crime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Clinton got caught trying Carnivore but as you can see that isn’t stopping them. Has it ever? I knew Woodrow Wilson spied on other governments and business. He had an exchange under the White House that could listen in to all the phone traffic in D.C. In fact good ole Alberto uses him as an example as to why it&#8217;s legal domestically. </p>
<p>So, you may ask, with all this information why are they so inept at stopping crime?</p>
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		<title>By: jbellies</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbellies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great pic of Lavrenti P. Beria, soviet minister of internal security until he was executed in 1953 (tough world, eh?).  The inscription is in Cyrillic, but contains a letter i which does not exist in Russian.  My guess is Ukrainian.  The N.S.A. didn&#039;t pay me anything to divert your attention from the true message of this posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pic of Lavrenti P. Beria, soviet minister of internal security until he was executed in 1953 (tough world, eh?).  The inscription is in Cyrillic, but contains a letter i which does not exist in Russian.  My guess is Ukrainian.  The N.S.A. didn&#8217;t pay me anything to divert your attention from the true message of this posting.</p>
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