We fume at the illegals, but do nothing to the US employers. If the first illegal to sneak over the border hadn’t been given a job, there wouldn’t have been a second, let alone today’s wave.
Oh yeah! Make life miserable to those who will pay for YOUR Social Security ’cause other than Mel Gibson’s wife and the Mormons I ain’t seeing any white folks breeding like rabbits.
If you read Cage Match and the DMN article, this was disturbing.
“If there are jobs in America, Latino immigrants will come, no matter the risk. And why not? They may be at the bottom of the economic ladder here, but they’re making about four times, on average, what they could back home.”
Nothing will be done until employers can be stopped from hiring them.
Historically, countries on the rise all welcome low skilled laborers (gardeners, maids, food servers, etc) while the local population enjoyed the benefits of the ‘good’ jobs. When countries start to decline, then they start trying to scapegoat those same low wage people that were so welcome and needed before.
It’s interesting that illegal immigration is a huge rallying cry for insecure conservatives, yet the way that their own political party has spearheaded the export of ‘good’ jobs to foreign countries is not only no source of complaints, but a source of pride.
You want to protect American jobs, it actually makes much more sense to vote Democrat.
Bingo! And to make up for the higher wages in order to hire locals, you’ll end up with inflation.
I’m no economist. I just don’t understand the logic behind the inflation. I would certainly like to, if you’ve a good “economics for dummies” reference I could read.
MoparPower from Sweden, I thought so too. The sign is a little ambiguous as to which border it’s referring to. It can read as “USA, KEEP OUT.” or “USA! KEEP OUT!”
On the other hand, all the “free’ stuff up here is dearly paid for through higher personal taxes and by paying the high corporate taxes passed to us through higher retail prices. The average Canadian only has .40 on every dollar earned after all imposed taxes.
From when the CAD was .65 USD or now at 1.02 USD, i’ve been buying items from the USA for 1/4 to 1/2 what I would pay here.
This Chicken-Little “if we have to pay Americans to do shit work, it’ll cause inflation” line is another boogieman. Any tendency toward inflation is offset by increased domestic consumption – all those wages being sent abroad will be spent here, by Americans, and – because we’re talking the lower wage tiers here – it’ll be spent on staples, the production, distribution and sales of which mean more work for other lower-paid Americans.
Them as are inclined to feel sorry for illegals will use whatever comes to hand to rationalize the status quo. Championing the underdog is often noble and righteous – but that laudable goal has become dogma, which is to say, bullshit, when the underdog is asserting “rights” they never had in the first place, which erode the real rights of members of our own populace, to whom we have an obligation.
It’s so unkind, apparently, to tell them to go back and try improving things in their OWN countries – the ones they are quick to tell you are better than the U.S. If Mexico and Mexican ways are the best – as every Mexican illegal “knows”- then why shouldn’t they be expected to show some patriotism and work to make Mexico better, eh?
You’re wrong, but sure… forbid illegals to work in the U.S. and we’ll see how it goes with the economy. But it will be hard to see what to blame for the downfall, the war in Iraq or throwing out the illegals. See you on the watermelon fields and Wal-Mart, THC.
Look at it this way. low wage alien earners make everyone’s food more affordable, so much so that it is far cheaper to truck a head of lettuce from California to Ontario, Canada, than to buy it from the farmer’s market down the street. I don’t know every factor resulting in the very high cost of goods in Canada, but lower cost of living due to cheap Mexican labor has something to do with it. In return, they take or send money back to their own country which helps the economy there as well. Canadians buy most of their “fresh” produce from americans for the same reason. I see it as a win-win-win relationship.
#12 so, it’s not wrong to let all those illegals in. It’s only wrong when you sent jobs outside. Vulcan-clear logic.
#17 yeah, it’s good to get illegals in. wWanna hear your tune when the problems really hits the fan. I’m sure you’ll keep on rationalizing the stuff with something else.
Arizona’s new employer-sanctions law, the toughest in the nation, goes into effect Tuesday. Business owners will be held accountable if they hire illegal aliens. They must verify all new hires after January 1st using E-Verify. The new law has survived 2 lawsuits already and the Maricopa County (Phoenix) Attorney plans to start investigations of illegal hiring immediately.
Let’s see how they enforce the law.Employers get away with it because after a month or so it’s back to status quo !American Companies like cheep labor how else can keep there profit margins up!!
Last one out, turn off the lights.
Yeah, go back all you illegal immigrant scumbags!!!
We fume at the illegals, but do nothing to the US employers. If the first illegal to sneak over the border hadn’t been given a job, there wouldn’t have been a second, let alone today’s wave.
#2, Jag,
Good point in your link. What if, however, it was a mastodon suggesting that to the first humans crossing on the land bridge from Siberia?
Oh yeah! Make life miserable to those who will pay for YOUR Social Security ’cause other than Mel Gibson’s wife and the Mormons I ain’t seeing any white folks breeding like rabbits.
Free education and free health care? Are they going to Canada?
Happy new year from sweden
If you read Cage Match and the DMN article, this was disturbing.
“If there are jobs in America, Latino immigrants will come, no matter the risk. And why not? They may be at the bottom of the economic ladder here, but they’re making about four times, on average, what they could back home.”
Nothing will be done until employers can be stopped from hiring them.
Just my 2 cents (3 new gold dollars) worth.
#4 – Mister Catshit – What if, however, it was a mastodon suggesting that to the first humans crossing on the land bridge from Siberia?
Well, he would have been taken to court by the pissants.
#5 – Angel – …other than Melg Gibson’s wife and the Mormons I ain’t seeing any white folks breeding like rabbits.
Wrong.
#3 (Higley Pundit), #7 (BubbaRay) – Nothing will be done until employers can be stopped from hiring them.
Bingo! And to make up for the higher wages in order to hire locals, you’ll end up with inflation.
Sounds like it’s time for some classic Maddox…
#2 Oh, c’mon. You know better than this. Next thing I’ll read, is that blacks had nothing to do with slavery?
BTW, how did those indians get there?
#8 You think rednecks breed more than Latin Americans?? Not by a long shot! But even if that’s true, U.S. is screwed anyway.
Historically, countries on the rise all welcome low skilled laborers (gardeners, maids, food servers, etc) while the local population enjoyed the benefits of the ‘good’ jobs. When countries start to decline, then they start trying to scapegoat those same low wage people that were so welcome and needed before.
It’s interesting that illegal immigration is a huge rallying cry for insecure conservatives, yet the way that their own political party has spearheaded the export of ‘good’ jobs to foreign countries is not only no source of complaints, but a source of pride.
You want to protect American jobs, it actually makes much more sense to vote Democrat.
#8, Jägermeister said,
I’m no economist. I just don’t understand the logic behind the inflation. I would certainly like to, if you’ve a good “economics for dummies” reference I could read.
MoparPower from Sweden, I thought so too. The sign is a little ambiguous as to which border it’s referring to. It can read as “USA, KEEP OUT.” or “USA! KEEP OUT!”
On the other hand, all the “free’ stuff up here is dearly paid for through higher personal taxes and by paying the high corporate taxes passed to us through higher retail prices. The average Canadian only has .40 on every dollar earned after all imposed taxes.
From when the CAD was .65 USD or now at 1.02 USD, i’ve been buying items from the USA for 1/4 to 1/2 what I would pay here.
#10 – pedro – BTW, how did those indians get there?
They jumped the fence built by the mastodon.
#11 – Awake
You sure are awake. Good post!
#12 – BubbaRay
Plenty of information on the net. Look for Cost-Push Inflation. Some good links there.
This Chicken-Little “if we have to pay Americans to do shit work, it’ll cause inflation” line is another boogieman. Any tendency toward inflation is offset by increased domestic consumption – all those wages being sent abroad will be spent here, by Americans, and – because we’re talking the lower wage tiers here – it’ll be spent on staples, the production, distribution and sales of which mean more work for other lower-paid Americans.
Them as are inclined to feel sorry for illegals will use whatever comes to hand to rationalize the status quo. Championing the underdog is often noble and righteous – but that laudable goal has become dogma, which is to say, bullshit, when the underdog is asserting “rights” they never had in the first place, which erode the real rights of members of our own populace, to whom we have an obligation.
It’s so unkind, apparently, to tell them to go back and try improving things in their OWN countries – the ones they are quick to tell you are better than the U.S. If Mexico and Mexican ways are the best – as every Mexican illegal “knows”- then why shouldn’t they be expected to show some patriotism and work to make Mexico better, eh?
#16 – THC
You’re wrong, but sure… forbid illegals to work in the U.S. and we’ll see how it goes with the economy. But it will be hard to see what to blame for the downfall, the war in Iraq or throwing out the illegals. See you on the watermelon fields and Wal-Mart, THC.
Look at it this way. low wage alien earners make everyone’s food more affordable, so much so that it is far cheaper to truck a head of lettuce from California to Ontario, Canada, than to buy it from the farmer’s market down the street. I don’t know every factor resulting in the very high cost of goods in Canada, but lower cost of living due to cheap Mexican labor has something to do with it. In return, they take or send money back to their own country which helps the economy there as well. Canadians buy most of their “fresh” produce from americans for the same reason. I see it as a win-win-win relationship.
#12 so, it’s not wrong to let all those illegals in. It’s only wrong when you sent jobs outside. Vulcan-clear logic.
#17 yeah, it’s good to get illegals in. wWanna hear your tune when the problems really hits the fan. I’m sure you’ll keep on rationalizing the stuff with something else.
Arizona’s new employer-sanctions law, the toughest in the nation, goes into effect Tuesday. Business owners will be held accountable if they hire illegal aliens. They must verify all new hires after January 1st using E-Verify. The new law has survived 2 lawsuits already and the Maricopa County (Phoenix) Attorney plans to start investigations of illegal hiring immediately.
Let’s see how they enforce the law.Employers get away with it because after a month or so it’s back to status quo !American Companies like cheep labor how else can keep there profit margins up!!