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	<title>Comments on: Britain Catalogs Biometric, Iris, Etc. Data On It&#8217;s Citizens &#8212; FBI Now Wants &#8220;Instant Access&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-2/#comment-960476</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LAW,
Is supposed to go, something, Like this...
AS LONG as 1/3+ of the people WANT to do it, IT SHOULDNT be against the LAW..

For some reason, the LAW, doesnt SEE it like this.
THIS ideal alone would empty about 1/3 of the Jails and prisons..  and lower COSTS..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAW,<br />
Is supposed to go, something, Like this&#8230;<br />
AS LONG as 1/3+ of the people WANT to do it, IT SHOULDNT be against the LAW..</p>
<p>For some reason, the LAW, doesnt SEE it like this.<br />
THIS ideal alone would empty about 1/3 of the Jails and prisons..  and lower COSTS..</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Speight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Speight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now.  Do you notice.
(1)The more information collected, by security people the safer we get?
(2)More technology equals better results?
(3)More rules equals less offences?
(1) Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
(2) What. Like in Iraq I presume?
(3) So. Since we employ political masters who do nothing else but pass laws crime/offences have declined?
Rest easy worriers, the morons who will run this lot have no more idea what to do with information than George Bush knows about just what the hell is going to fall out of his mouth next. True. there will be those who are falsely accused, detained, harassed. But that has always been the way.  To assume that such individuals or organisations will win, is to assume that the thick will triumph over the thinking.
Now I can&#039;t subscribe to that even in my most drunken moments. My attitude to encourage more of it, let the buggers drown in a sea of information which decreases in usefulness the more you gather. Britsh Police, you should know, spend just 18% of their duty time dealing with crime, the rest is in the nick filling out forms. Lastly. Have you not noticed that the head of Interpol has just been charged with serious bribary charges. He is accused on evidence trails which deserve a place on moronic crooks items in Dvorak Blog. Don&#039;t despair, look at the cock-ups, look at the management. Neanderthal man is not extinct he carries a badge these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now.  Do you notice.<br />
(1)The more information collected, by security people the safer we get?<br />
(2)More technology equals better results?<br />
(3)More rules equals less offences?<br />
(1) Quis custodiet ipsos custodes<br />
(2) What. Like in Iraq I presume?<br />
(3) So. Since we employ political masters who do nothing else but pass laws crime/offences have declined?<br />
Rest easy worriers, the morons who will run this lot have no more idea what to do with information than George Bush knows about just what the hell is going to fall out of his mouth next. True. there will be those who are falsely accused, detained, harassed. But that has always been the way.  To assume that such individuals or organisations will win, is to assume that the thick will triumph over the thinking.<br />
Now I can&#8217;t subscribe to that even in my most drunken moments. My attitude to encourage more of it, let the buggers drown in a sea of information which decreases in usefulness the more you gather. Britsh Police, you should know, spend just 18% of their duty time dealing with crime, the rest is in the nick filling out forms. Lastly. Have you not noticed that the head of Interpol has just been charged with serious bribary charges. He is accused on evidence trails which deserve a place on moronic crooks items in Dvorak Blog. Don&#8217;t despair, look at the cock-ups, look at the management. Neanderthal man is not extinct he carries a badge these days.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-2/#comment-960344</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK,
Stupid question...

CAN I COPYRIGHT MY ID..My name??

And What recourse do i GAIN??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK,<br />
Stupid question&#8230;</p>
<p>CAN I COPYRIGHT MY ID..My name??</p>
<p>And What recourse do i GAIN??</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-2/#comment-959335</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WISH I could SELL my NAME, MYSELF...And make the money these folks are from USING MY NAME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WISH I could SELL my NAME, MYSELF&#8230;And make the money these folks are from USING MY NAME.</p>
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		<title>By: GF</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-2/#comment-959051</link>
		<dc:creator>GF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All your base are belong to us&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All your base are belong to us&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-2/#comment-958924</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OhForTheLoveOf said, &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;i&gt; I need no clarification. I know that I and I alone own my information. I’m just waiting… and waiting… and waiting… and waiting… for the United States to get on board. &lt;/i&gt;

Clearly you WISH you owned your own private data but you do not. Take your personal credit history -- you clearly don&#039;t own that.  Anyone with with a little money can buy that and a corporation will sell it -- all without your permission or without even informing you that they have it or have sold it.

The same goes for information about your purchasing habits, reading habits, etc. etc. 

I think it is wrong and I think it&#039;s un-American but that&#039;s the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OhForTheLoveOf said, &gt;&gt;&gt; <i> I need no clarification. I know that I and I alone own my information. I’m just waiting… and waiting… and waiting… and waiting… for the United States to get on board. </i></p>
<p>Clearly you WISH you owned your own private data but you do not. Take your personal credit history &#8212; you clearly don&#8217;t own that.  Anyone with with a little money can buy that and a corporation will sell it &#8212; all without your permission or without even informing you that they have it or have sold it.</p>
<p>The same goes for information about your purchasing habits, reading habits, etc. etc. </p>
<p>I think it is wrong and I think it&#8217;s un-American but that&#8217;s the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-2/#comment-958746</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  If they can get this type of DATA from Britain, they will SOON ask it of congress, and the People of the USA.
2.  They are ALREADY suggesting that ALL USA citizens BE REQUIRED to have a Passport and OTHER data to make SURE you are NOT an illegal immigrant.
3.  HOW secure do you REALLY want to feel??  Do you want to loose your rights to have a gun?  Do you want ALL problems to Go thru the courts, which COSTS MORE MONEY, and takes 3 years to GET TO??  Do you want your ABILITY to disapline your kids to GO OUT THE DOOR??  Do you WANt the Gov to be your BABY sitter??

and WHOM do you think is in charge of the Government??  NOT You and ME...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  If they can get this type of DATA from Britain, they will SOON ask it of congress, and the People of the USA.<br />
2.  They are ALREADY suggesting that ALL USA citizens BE REQUIRED to have a Passport and OTHER data to make SURE you are NOT an illegal immigrant.<br />
3.  HOW secure do you REALLY want to feel??  Do you want to loose your rights to have a gun?  Do you want ALL problems to Go thru the courts, which COSTS MORE MONEY, and takes 3 years to GET TO??  Do you want your ABILITY to disapline your kids to GO OUT THE DOOR??  Do you WANt the Gov to be your BABY sitter??</p>
<p>and WHOM do you think is in charge of the Government??  NOT You and ME&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-1/#comment-958739</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, small boats were not registered until banks started loaning on them. I wonder if it started the same for cars, and the &quot;WE SHALL CONTROL&quot; took control?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, small boats were not registered until banks started loaning on them. I wonder if it started the same for cars, and the &#8220;WE SHALL CONTROL&#8221; took control?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-1/#comment-958707</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can see it&#039;s the Brits invading people&#039;s privacy, and the Feds are taking a peek at the database.

The real problem is the great access to personal data people are willing to allow.  Why are cars being registered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can see it&#8217;s the Brits invading people&#8217;s privacy, and the Feds are taking a peek at the database.</p>
<p>The real problem is the great access to personal data people are willing to allow.  Why are cars being registered?</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-1/#comment-958576</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iGW, simple removal of whatever is there now would be an enormous improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iGW, simple removal of whatever is there now would be an enormous improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: iGlobalWarmer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-1/#comment-958573</link>
		<dc:creator>iGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accidental and unintentional cross-post.  So sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accidental and unintentional cross-post.  So sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: iGlobalWarmer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-1/#comment-958542</link>
		<dc:creator>iGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if we could someday build Britney Spears a new brain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if we could someday build Britney Spears a new brain?</p>
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		<title>By: m!mic</title>
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		<dc:creator>m!mic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice consortium name IIC! I feel all icky just thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice consortium name IIC! I feel all icky just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/15/britain-catalogs-biometric-iris-etc-data-on-its-citizens-fbi-now-wants-access/comment-page-1/#comment-958403</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All those invasive &quot;security&quot; measures in England, and the crime rate is still high? (The authorities are probably fighting crime fighting in order to increase crime so they can gain more control. Just wait until they tighten up.)

As for punching out &quot;peaceful demonstrators&quot;, I need to see some video shot by someone without an interest in the event before accepting anyone&#039;s word on what happened. If I&#039;d been cornered in Seattle when those &quot;peaceful&quot; demonstrations against the WTO were going on, I&#039;d have shot my way out. They were not &quot;peaceful&quot; by any means. (Google &quot;black block&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those invasive &#8220;security&#8221; measures in England, and the crime rate is still high? (The authorities are probably fighting crime fighting in order to increase crime so they can gain more control. Just wait until they tighten up.)</p>
<p>As for punching out &#8220;peaceful demonstrators&#8221;, I need to see some video shot by someone without an interest in the event before accepting anyone&#8217;s word on what happened. If I&#8217;d been cornered in Seattle when those &#8220;peaceful&#8221; demonstrations against the WTO were going on, I&#8217;d have shot my way out. They were not &#8220;peaceful&#8221; by any means. (Google &#8220;black block&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: iGlobalWarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>iGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As some random douchebag once said:

&quot;Tick, Tick

Fellow citizens, the truth is that our present can only be as stable as our future.

For too long we have hobbled from decade to decade, generation to generation, and millennium to millennium, myopically adhering to superfluous battles that can never be won. Never once as a species forwarding or embracing an all encompassing path towards a certainly better future.

Our excuses have been many, our reasoning mostly incoherent, and our lack of vision as a species, certainly fatal.

For in the meantime, as each tick of the ages has passed, the critical threats posed and ignored by our species discordance have increased exponentially.

Pandemic famine and disease, massively destructive weapons, fatal atmospheric and climate change, super volcanic eruptions, catastrophic space body impacts, Orwellian societies of unparalleled oppression, and many other global catastrophes too numerous to list here, waiting to befall us at any moment.

In fact, one of the most immediate and ominous threats facing America and much of the world today is the utilization of advanced technologies for the implementation of authoritarian control over societies. 

My friends, the truth is that if we do not fight for and secure freedom today, the time will very soon come when it will be almost impossible to do so.

In retrospect, when one soberly considers the critical challenges that we must face together to survive as a species, our differences, at times, can become almost imperceptible.
&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some random douchebag once said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Tick, Tick</p>
<p>Fellow citizens, the truth is that our present can only be as stable as our future.</p>
<p>For too long we have hobbled from decade to decade, generation to generation, and millennium to millennium, myopically adhering to superfluous battles that can never be won. Never once as a species forwarding or embracing an all encompassing path towards a certainly better future.</p>
<p>Our excuses have been many, our reasoning mostly incoherent, and our lack of vision as a species, certainly fatal.</p>
<p>For in the meantime, as each tick of the ages has passed, the critical threats posed and ignored by our species discordance have increased exponentially.</p>
<p>Pandemic famine and disease, massively destructive weapons, fatal atmospheric and climate change, super volcanic eruptions, catastrophic space body impacts, Orwellian societies of unparalleled oppression, and many other global catastrophes too numerous to list here, waiting to befall us at any moment.</p>
<p>In fact, one of the most immediate and ominous threats facing America and much of the world today is the utilization of advanced technologies for the implementation of authoritarian control over societies. </p>
<p>My friends, the truth is that if we do not fight for and secure freedom today, the time will very soon come when it will be almost impossible to do so.</p>
<p>In retrospect, when one soberly considers the critical challenges that we must face together to survive as a species, our differences, at times, can become almost imperceptible.<br />
&#8220;</p>
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