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	<title>Comments on: Sun Buys MySQL &#8212; I Think It&#8217;s a Disaster</title>
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		<title>By: josephfeller</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-984688</link>
		<dc:creator>josephfeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks - Oracle bought up their own dual-license-slinging, support-selling open source database company back in 2006 - Sleepycat (Berkeley DB). Two years on, Oracle has pushed Berkeley DB through three major releases, and they are still holding on to the original Sleepycat revenue model (support sales and dual licensing) and the DB is still open source. 

Why does everyone assume that the only reason a profit seeking firm like Sun would buy up an OSS company is to make it proprietary? Remember that MySQL AB is a profit seeking company themselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks &#8211; Oracle bought up their own dual-license-slinging, support-selling open source database company back in 2006 &#8211; Sleepycat (Berkeley DB). Two years on, Oracle has pushed Berkeley DB through three major releases, and they are still holding on to the original Sleepycat revenue model (support sales and dual licensing) and the DB is still open source. </p>
<p>Why does everyone assume that the only reason a profit seeking firm like Sun would buy up an OSS company is to make it proprietary? Remember that MySQL AB is a profit seeking company themselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-964891</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need anyone point out that Open Source does not necessarily equate to Free Software? Last I checked, Sun was a business and thus desires to maximizing profits. At best, I see an eventual Microsoft-Fox scenario where Sun figures out how to make a database and keeps a stripped MySQL as a &quot;Lite&quot; version as free and creates MySQL Pro as the version that is not free ala SQL Express and SQL Server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need anyone point out that Open Source does not necessarily equate to Free Software? Last I checked, Sun was a business and thus desires to maximizing profits. At best, I see an eventual Microsoft-Fox scenario where Sun figures out how to make a database and keeps a stripped MySQL as a &#8220;Lite&#8221; version as free and creates MySQL Pro as the version that is not free ala SQL Express and SQL Server.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-963923</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 you came all the way here, said what you said and yet didn&#039;t thank John for adding a volume control to the media player?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 you came all the way here, said what you said and yet didn&#8217;t thank John for adding a volume control to the media player?</p>
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		<title>By: ZUrlocker</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-963852</link>
		<dc:creator>ZUrlocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
this was the funniest story I have read in ages.  It gave us all a good laugh at MySQL.  I enjoy your writing and I think you know how to tweak mac users and open source guys.  But this was so far off as a conspiracy theory that it was just too funny.

I think this is a game changing move by Sun and it&#039;s a vote of confidence not only in MySQL but in Open Source in general.  
--Zack

Zack Urlocker
EVP Products
MySQL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
this was the funniest story I have read in ages.  It gave us all a good laugh at MySQL.  I enjoy your writing and I think you know how to tweak mac users and open source guys.  But this was so far off as a conspiracy theory that it was just too funny.</p>
<p>I think this is a game changing move by Sun and it&#8217;s a vote of confidence not only in MySQL but in Open Source in general.<br />
&#8211;Zack</p>
<p>Zack Urlocker<br />
EVP Products<br />
MySQL</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-962941</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve an old TRS-100 that still works for writing articles and numerous other chores.  Best keyboard I&#039;ve seen on a &quot;notebook&quot; in a long time.  25 yrs. old and still works like new, even with a spill or two.

In the pressbox at pro games, one can occasionally see one or two on the desks (well, in 2000).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve an old TRS-100 that still works for writing articles and numerous other chores.  Best keyboard I&#8217;ve seen on a &#8220;notebook&#8221; in a long time.  25 yrs. old and still works like new, even with a spill or two.</p>
<p>In the pressbox at pro games, one can occasionally see one or two on the desks (well, in 2000).</p>
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		<title>By: John C Dvorak</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-962734</link>
		<dc:creator>John C Dvorak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedro..I have to adjust MY volume to the pre-roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedro..I have to adjust MY volume to the pre-roll.</p>
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		<title>By: yikes</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-962360</link>
		<dc:creator>yikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Microsoft rumored to buy Logitech? Why? What is the point?&quot;

Why? Microsoft can finally unleash it&#039;s answer to Apple&#039;s success;  The iHeadPhone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Microsoft rumored to buy Logitech? Why? What is the point?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why? Microsoft can finally unleash it&#8217;s answer to Apple&#8217;s success;  The iHeadPhone!</p>
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		<title>By: drem</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-962007</link>
		<dc:creator>drem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course IT WILL REMAIN FREE!!!
Do you guys have any ideea about Sun&#039;s policy in the last 3-4 years!? If not, read the anouncements etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course IT WILL REMAIN FREE!!!<br />
Do you guys have any ideea about Sun&#8217;s policy in the last 3-4 years!? If not, read the anouncements etc.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-961893</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 what! you kidding? those keyboards are toys. And don&#039;t get me started with those damned one button laptops. Who the hell still thinks it&#039;s a good idea to have a key pressed in the keyboard to have an alternate menu?

Oh, that&#039;s right. I must think differently.

#13 thanks for reassuring what is obvious to the eye. It looked like a TI keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 what! you kidding? those keyboards are toys. And don&#8217;t get me started with those damned one button laptops. Who the hell still thinks it&#8217;s a good idea to have a key pressed in the keyboard to have an alternate menu?</p>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right. I must think differently.</p>
<p>#13 thanks for reassuring what is obvious to the eye. It looked like a TI keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: iGlobalWarmer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-961853</link>
		<dc:creator>iGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering using a MySQL backend to an upcoming project to keep costs down, but if there&#039;s a good chance it&#039;s not going to remain free, might as well stay with SQL server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering using a MySQL backend to an upcoming project to keep costs down, but if there&#8217;s a good chance it&#8217;s not going to remain free, might as well stay with SQL server.</p>
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		<title>By: Fratm</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-961798</link>
		<dc:creator>Fratm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10,  I tried the keyboard on the new iMac&#039;s just yesterday.. No thanks.. Reminds me of the TI99 days.

I will give them this much, the aluminum case on the keyboard is nice.. but that&#039;s about it.  Oh and I was impressed to see that Apple finally added a scroll wheel, err scroll ball? whatever it is nipple on the mouse is :) I did like it though, nice and small.

-Fratm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10,  I tried the keyboard on the new iMac&#8217;s just yesterday.. No thanks.. Reminds me of the TI99 days.</p>
<p>I will give them this much, the aluminum case on the keyboard is nice.. but that&#8217;s about it.  Oh and I was impressed to see that Apple finally added a scroll wheel, err scroll ball? whatever it is nipple on the mouse is <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I did like it though, nice and small.</p>
<p>-Fratm</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m guessing that Sun&#039;s purchase of MySQL will spell the end of it as a free database. Eventually, Sun will want to charge for it to make it look respectable compared to Oracle and SQL Server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing that Sun&#8217;s purchase of MySQL will spell the end of it as a free database. Eventually, Sun will want to charge for it to make it look respectable compared to Oracle and SQL Server.</p>
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		<title>By: god</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-961768</link>
		<dc:creator>god</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellison can spend the money he didn&#039;t spend on mysql - on an A380 for himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellison can spend the money he didn&#8217;t spend on mysql &#8211; on an A380 for himself.</p>
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		<title>By: god</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/16/sun-buys-mysql-i-think-its-a-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-961766</link>
		<dc:creator>god</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 - you really should walk into an Apple store if for no other reason than to come up with &quot;problems&quot; that aren&#039;t from the last Century.

While you&#039;re there, try the keyboard on the new iMac. It rocks and they sell &#039;em to PC users.  Probably the same as the Air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 &#8211; you really should walk into an Apple store if for no other reason than to come up with &#8220;problems&#8221; that aren&#8217;t from the last Century.</p>
<p>While you&#8217;re there, try the keyboard on the new iMac. It rocks and they sell &#8216;em to PC users.  Probably the same as the Air.</p>
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		<title>By: jlm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn, guess Sun needed another project to screw up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn, guess Sun needed another project to screw up</p>
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