Comments on: The Billary Road to Republican Victory http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:27:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Thomas http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-3/#comment-983622 Thomas Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:49:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-983622 #43 It is more accurate to say that the only people that think Hillary is not bad are the people that would vote for her regardless of what she does. It is not just Republicans that hate Hillary. I know many liberals and moderate Democrats that cannot stand her either. The key to winning the Presidency is the moderates. If Hillary wins, McCain will win the moderate vote and will take the election. #43
It is more accurate to say that the only people that think Hillary is not bad are the people that would vote for her regardless of what she does. It is not just Republicans that hate Hillary. I know many liberals and moderate Democrats that cannot stand her either. The key to winning the Presidency is the moderates. If Hillary wins, McCain will win the moderate vote and will take the election.

]]> By: Mister Catshit http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-3/#comment-982838 Mister Catshit Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:42:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-982838 #42, Tommy, McCain won't win. He may look good in your eyes today, but when the past is aired he won't look so good. Hillary only looks bad to those who wouldn't vote for her anyway. Why do they hate her so much? Because the Republicans have spent the past 15 years telling us she is a bad person. Not WHY she is a bad person, mind you, only that she is. An offensive negative campaign worked so well in the past. The electorate is tired of it and wants it to stop. After the conventions, watch for the Democratic nominee to soar in popularity as Republican tactics come back to haunt them. #42, Tommy,

McCain won’t win. He may look good in your eyes today, but when the past is aired he won’t look so good.

Hillary only looks bad to those who wouldn’t vote for her anyway. Why do they hate her so much? Because the Republicans have spent the past 15 years telling us she is a bad person. Not WHY she is a bad person, mind you, only that she is.

An offensive negative campaign worked so well in the past. The electorate is tired of it and wants it to stop. After the conventions, watch for the Democratic nominee to soar in popularity as Republican tactics come back to haunt them.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-3/#comment-981044 Thomas Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:38:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-981044 #41 If it ends up McCain-Hillary, you better prepare yourself for another Republican President. I think Hillary beats any Republican candidate other than McCain primarily because McCain appeals to moderates far better than Hillary (which is also why I do not think he'll win the nomination). Btw, if McCain does become President, that makes the Democrats look like a complete grease fire. That even after the most vilified Presidency in modern history, they still cannot beat his party makes them look completely incompetent. #41
If it ends up McCain-Hillary, you better prepare yourself for another Republican President. I think Hillary beats any Republican candidate other than McCain primarily because McCain appeals to moderates far better than Hillary (which is also why I do not think he’ll win the nomination). Btw, if McCain does become President, that makes the Democrats look like a complete grease fire. That even after the most vilified Presidency in modern history, they still cannot beat his party makes them look completely incompetent.

]]> By: ArianeB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-3/#comment-979649 ArianeB Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:45:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-979649 I'm betting on a Democratic landslide. Even if Hillary is the nominee, there is no way that they can dig up enough dirt to make her look worse than W. The serious scandal count of the Bush administration is around the 60 range, and yet apparently its not enough to impeach. The general population is sick and damn tired of Republican schenanigans, and McCain has supported these schenanigans over and over. McCain's negatives are age and the complete lack of change he brings to the executive. I live in Arizona and we are sick of him ourselves. The last time he took a stand for anything was his stand against torture, and we supported him. Then he caves, lets the torture provisions go through and votes FOR the Military Commissions Act of 2006 -- one of the most immoral pieces of legislation in American History. McCain will lose the Presidency on 2008, and his Senate seat on 2010. I’m betting on a Democratic landslide. Even if Hillary is the nominee, there is no way that they can dig up enough dirt to make her look worse than W.

The serious scandal count of the Bush administration is around the 60 range, and yet apparently its not enough to impeach. The general population is sick and damn tired of Republican schenanigans, and McCain has supported these schenanigans over and over.

McCain’s negatives are age and the complete lack of change he brings to the executive. I live in Arizona and we are sick of him ourselves. The last time he took a stand for anything was his stand against torture, and we supported him. Then he caves, lets the torture provisions go through and votes FOR the Military Commissions Act of 2006 — one of the most immoral pieces of legislation in American History.

McCain will lose the Presidency on 2008, and his Senate seat on 2010.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978899 MikeN Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:44:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978899 I think Megan McArdle said it best: Why isn't this a null set? Democrats who believe that the GOP southern strategy is a defining moment that discredits the entire movement ∩ Democrats who think that the Clintons are very deliberately playing up Obama's race in order to drive white voters into Hillary's camp ∩ Democrats who will vote for Hillary Clinton in November once she secures the nomination. I think Bill Clinton's true colors are coming out. He'd have been a segregationist 40 years ago, while playing for black votes at the same time. I'm sure he already has his story ready for blacks about how Republicans made him do it. I think Megan McArdle said it best:

Why isn’t this a null set?
Democrats who believe that the GOP southern strategy is a defining moment that discredits the entire movement ∩ Democrats who think that the Clintons are very deliberately playing up Obama’s race in order to drive white voters into Hillary’s camp ∩ Democrats who will vote for Hillary Clinton in November once she secures the nomination.

I think Bill Clinton’s true colors are coming out. He’d have been a segregationist 40 years ago, while playing for black votes at the same time. I’m sure he already has his story ready for blacks about how Republicans made him do it.

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978886 bobbo Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:33:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978886 Raster--our public officials should have very little privacy -- for obvious reasons. I'm not sure--didn't all/most of the presidential paper work used to be public papers and then the law changed so that the ex-officials got to control the paperwork for 25 years then maybe 50 under BushCo and the papers go to the libraries and the ex's get to review and make public the stuff that makes them look good and keep secret that which makes them look bad? True or not--public officials in fact should have almost NO privacy. Including all finanacial and medical records. In fact, I can't think of anything that should be private==nor upsetting to the public when made available other than criminal acts. Raster–our public officials should have very little privacy — for obvious reasons.

I’m not sure–didn’t all/most of the presidential paper work used to be public papers and then the law changed so that the ex-officials got to control the paperwork for 25 years then maybe 50 under BushCo and the papers go to the libraries and the ex’s get to review and make public the stuff that makes them look good and keep secret that which makes them look bad?

True or not–public officials in fact should have almost NO privacy. Including all finanacial and medical records. In fact, I can’t think of anything that should be private==nor upsetting to the public when made available other than criminal acts.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978877 MikeN Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:29:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978877 Somehow I think if a Republican politician had mentioned that Jesse Jackson won South Carolina and it was no big deal, it would go down in history with Philadelphia Mississippi and robocalls about McCain's black baby as Democrat talking points about Republican racism for the next 40 years. Somehow I think if a Republican politician had mentioned that Jesse Jackson won South Carolina and it was no big deal, it would go down in history with Philadelphia Mississippi and robocalls about McCain’s black baby as Democrat talking points about Republican racism for the next 40 years.

]]> By: Raster http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978876 Raster Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:28:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978876 #36 In case you forgotten (it was nearly 12 hours ago), this thread is about whether people get to know who gave money to Bill's Library. Well, guess what, that's private info, and it gets to stay private. Or do you feel it's OK deny people their privacy? #36
In case you forgotten (it was nearly 12 hours ago), this thread is about whether people get to know who gave money to Bill’s Library.

Well, guess what, that’s private info, and it gets to stay private.

Or do you feel it’s OK deny people their privacy?

]]> By: Phillep http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978837 Phillep Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:52:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978837 Oooo, is this a variation on "just joking"? LOL The Democrats would be all over any Republicans in the same situation, and you know it. That's why you evaded the question. Squirm. Mike, I'm thinking the Republican central committee, by whatever name, might as well be Democrats, if not senile, maybe both. Not just senile, but sprouting maggots, they so brain dead. Oooo, is this a variation on “just joking”? LOL

The Democrats would be all over any Republicans in the same situation, and you know it. That’s why you evaded the question.

Squirm.

Mike, I’m thinking the Republican central committee, by whatever name, might as well be Democrats, if not senile, maybe both.

Not just senile, but sprouting maggots, they so brain dead.

]]> By: Raster http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978737 Raster Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:47:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978737 hehe, so easy to piss you 'pubs off Unlike you (apperently) I cannot speak for "The Democrats". For myself, I say they get to have their private lives private, 'pub or dem'. hehe, so easy to piss you ‘pubs off

Unlike you (apperently) I cannot speak for “The Democrats”. For myself, I say they get to have their private lives private, ‘pub or dem’.

]]> By: Phillep http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978733 Phillep Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:42:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978733 Raster, you are going to claim that the Democrats would say nothing if it was a pair of Republicans in the same situation. LOL. Sure. The Democrats would be all over it, and you damned well know it. That's why you and Catshit evade the question. Raster, you are going to claim that the Democrats would say nothing if it was a pair of Republicans in the same situation.

LOL. Sure.

The Democrats would be all over it, and you damned well know it. That’s why you and Catshit evade the question.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978728 MikeN Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:39:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978728 John you were right about the hit jobs on Giuliani. Nevertheless, I didn't expect him to crash so fast. He's not even a factor after leading polls all the way into December. Romney vs McCain is a horrible choice for Republicans, even worse than the sad joke that is Hillary vs Obama, a total of about 8 years of elected office excluding the campaign. John you were right about the hit jobs on Giuliani. Nevertheless, I didn’t expect him to crash so fast. He’s not even a factor after leading polls all the way into December.

Romney vs McCain is a horrible choice for Republicans, even worse than the sad joke that is Hillary vs Obama, a total of about 8 years of elected office excluding the campaign.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978721 MikeN Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:37:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978721 What's with that 1st paragraph praise of Frank Rich. I assume it's some sort of clever subtle joke. What’s with that 1st paragraph praise of Frank Rich. I assume it’s some sort of clever subtle joke.

]]> By: TheGlobalWarmingNemesis http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978670 TheGlobalWarmingNemesis Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:52:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978670 You go Bill..... You go Bill…..

]]> By: JimS http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/01/28/the-billary-road-to-republican-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-978643 JimS Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:26:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15800#comment-978643 John said "Obama is unelectable in 2008 but I will predict he will be the candidate in 2012 and win then (you’ll see why in a couple of years)." Please explain what we'll see in a couple of years John said “Obama is unelectable in 2008 but I will predict he will be the candidate in 2012 and win then (you’ll see why in a couple of years).”

Please explain what we’ll see in a couple of years

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