So yes, I agree with you! Americans are the collective wisdom of average ignorance.

Here is something to ponder about. Look at the Democracy index list and see where GOUSA is positioned, 13th.

http://tinyurl.com/3ddjut

Now look at the Quality of Life index to see where GOUSA is positioned, 13th again!

http://tinyurl.com/2jzpgr

Interesting, yes?

Cheers

Or do you disagree? Boneheads voted for BushCo, dems/liberal did not. How much of Bush do I deserve? Is the answer dependent on how much I did besides voting?–etc.

I think that notion of people “deserving” what they good sounds too much/too often like blaming the victims of violent crime. Germ of truth, but the violators are 95% responsible.

Sorry if you might have got the wrong idea as you and I are in complete agreement – people get what they deserve whether it is government or economy.

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The Founding Fathers and myself are in agreement, and if only egotistically, don’t think our interests are boneheaded thoughts. No–I am instead complaining of what the forefathers warned us against.

Yep, the USA government IS too far from the people and the people don’t seem to be able to reign them in==across a wide latitude of conflicting interests. Somehow the “special interests/corporate interests” have their hooks in this government so deeply==sadly, only a revolution can get this nation back on track.

But I guess that is what every 10% group of like minded people think? I only ask==forget your “values”==what will actually work?

That is what that Bone Head founding father Thomas Jefferson said…

What else did he and all the other bone head founding fathers say?

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

- Thomas Jefferson

“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”

-Patrick Henry

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.
As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. ”

- Benjamin Franklin

Americans, the collective wisdom of average ignorance.

Cheers

Now–given that no one at all is for making anyone have abortions UNLESS that person herself wants one===demographic of the perfect brain dead, voting against self-interest, typical republican.

Stoopid people deserve what they get–now why I am also in this boat again?

You’re side got things done alright — ALL THE WRONG THINGS:

RECORED PORK; RECORD DEBT; ;RECORD TRADE DEFICITS; RISING POVERTY; CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE; UN-AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE; and

… and a THREE TRILLION dollar damned occupation of the wrong country.

Thanks GOP.

Well said!

Usually, he wears pink undies with frilly lace by choice. I assume it isn’t because he washed his white ones with a cheap ass red shirt.

Unions are what made America lazy and fat, sitting around saying that is not my job.

Geeze Roe Boe, you must know some union I don’t know of.

Unions are one of the chief reasons America became as powerful as it is. I think you forget the fact that the increased standard of living provided union workers allowed them to purchase more consumer goods. That increased market stimulated innovation and funded research. Which in turn further increased consumer demand AND money for a better military. It was this consumer market for durable goods that made America great. The increase in money supply allowed for more and better education, which in turn helped fuel a better standard of living.

In comparison, the Soviet Union, with more people and more natural resources failed. Why? Because they never allowed their workers to earn a decent salary or cultivate a consumer base. As people became more and more disenchanted with knowing American (and westerners in general) could buy a new car off the lot instead of a piece of crap after waiting two years for delivery and similar things, the nation imploded.

There is more evidence that American unions contributed to the Soviet collapse than there is for Reagan causing it. Before Reagan took office, the United States had the highest standard of living in the world. After Republican efforts to destroy unions America has fallen behind most other western countries.

I’ll be waiting for that self designated economics expert, Thomas, to of course try to offer some different explanation of why unions hurt America. Something along the lines of “well, unions initiated health insurance and look what we have today” or “unions pushed hard for safe work environments and now look, companies are actually responsible for killing employees”

Don’t bet any money on it… once in the machine, you’ll have to downsize your balls in order to get something done.