And California was an EASY target from there. The next fuel location would have been OREGON, which has NO MAJOR HARBOR. And Seattle is ABIT FAR.

any ships coming from the East coast would need FUEL SHIPS. and they NEED fuel, to give to the OTHER ships.
All they had to do would be BLOCK the panama canal, and MONITOR S. California. NO major Fleets could get around the Cape(easily) without GREAT loss.

Very true. Conspiracy theorists seldom care about truth or facts when some ripe bullshit can do.

#13, Angus,

Nice link. The second link is dead, but, … .

#15, Mick,

I don’t know but your point sounds very plausible. I find it hard to believe the Navy would be so stupid to paint any color OTHER than grades of grey.

#15 Mick Hamblen.

Operation Petticoat (1959)
“…they find a stranded group of Army nurses and must take them aboard. How bad can it get? Trying to get a primer coat on the sub, they have to mix white and red in order to have enough. When forced to flee the dock during an air attack, they find themselves with the world’s only Pink submarine, still with 5 women in the tight quarters of a submarine.” IMDB

Trivia: “There actually was a pink submarine in the south-west pacific early in the war, for the reason described in the movie.”

Directed by Blake Edwards. Actors included: Cary Grant, Tony Curtis, Dick Sargant, Gavin McLeod, Marion Ross.

RBG

You have overcome great disappointments in your youth. Someone close to you has passed on. Easy. Same with the future==great nations will fall etc–ho hum.

Now figure this one out. I CAN CONTROL YOUR BODY WITH REMOTE SENSING!!!!—-Lift your right foot off the floor. Rotate it (just the foot–from the ankle) in a clockwise direction for 2-3 seconds. Now raise your right hand and make a figure 6 in the air (from the wrist). Immediately, I will detect this and cause your right foot to counter-rotate.

Yes, the occult has much to teach us.

DU isn’t about what’s topical. It’s what the various editors find interesting on the web.

I was US Navy back in the 70s and a lot of time we would strip metal bare and do a first coat of blue or red lead to stop rust then the 2nd and 3rd coats would be haze or deck grey. Sometimes a deck would be painted white to reflect heat in tropical environs…

Short of wanting to hide their sexual preference, this story doesn’t hold up to much of a litmus test. I still think they were making the ships easier to bomb.

Battleship Photo Index BB-39 Arizona (BB-39)
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/39e.htm
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/013953a.jpg

The last 4 pictures on the first link are oil paintings done in Nov. and Dec. 1941 and there is no hint of any color on top of the turrets.

<-Insert Gay Sailor joke here…

Doh! #7 AHW beat me to it!

“Simple, to keep the public from finding out that the Navy is the gayest of the armed forces”

The part that is creepy is if you live in the US and think about Iraq and the war on terror and all the government rhetoric about it. “Mission Accomplished” et al.

Bush kept everyone safe for six years. My family tells me that of course we must accept what the TSA and Homeland Security dole out “We are at war”.

Do Europeans feel they are in a state of war (with terrorists) the same way as Americans? I do not think so. Not at the same fever pitch.

Cheers

“I thought this was not a conspiracy theory any more.”

As far as I know it still is. The sailors who died at Pearl Harbour along with those who survived – right up to the highest rank in Washington – all kept this necessary self-sacrifice silent for the good of the country.

/s

RBG

The US had broken Japan’s diplomatic cyphers and knew they were up to something, but we didn’t know when or where. The assumption was that the Japanese wouldn’t strike so far east, but rather go after the Philippines, Midway, or Wake — and indeed, the invasion of the Philippines started the day after Pearl Harbor. Intelligence did manage to decipher the declaration of war before the attack began, but there was a major cock-up transmitting it to the Pacific Fleet.

The movie Tora, Tora, Tora is a fairly accurate docudrama on what went wrong leading up to the attack.

“but why was this piece of knowledge lost? Did everyone just forget?”

Simple, to keep the public from finding out that the Navy is the gayest of the armed forces.