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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/02/11/female-muslim-medics-choose-religion-over-hygiene/comment-page-1/#comment-1062835</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen should re-read history books. There have been several well known and well respected female Quaker doctors.  Elizabeth Blackwell, educated by the Quakers, Anna M. Longshore-Potts, Quaker doctor, Hannah Meyers Longshore, Quaker, Anna E. Bromall, Sarah R. Adamson Dolley, both were Quakers.  I&#039;m not sure what century Glen is living in, but he needs to check his facts before spouting off about Quakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen should re-read history books. There have been several well known and well respected female Quaker doctors.  Elizabeth Blackwell, educated by the Quakers, Anna M. Longshore-Potts, Quaker doctor, Hannah Meyers Longshore, Quaker, Anna E. Bromall, Sarah R. Adamson Dolley, both were Quakers.  I&#8217;m not sure what century Glen is living in, but he needs to check his facts before spouting off about Quakers.</p>
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		<title>By: zizi</title>
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		<dc:creator>zizi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why not seek a theatre dressing dat suits their religion for them,rather thaninsulting and critisizing them.in case u avn&#039;t noticed,criti... only makes them stronger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not seek a theatre dressing dat suits their religion for them,rather thaninsulting and critisizing them.in case u avn&#8217;t noticed,criti&#8230; only makes them stronger</p>
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		<title>By: rosc</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another example of the stupidity of Religion (ALL of them.)</description>
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		<title>By: OhForTheLoveOf</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhForTheLoveOf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 - &lt;i&gt;No, Islamic people are forbidden from having any contact with the opposite sex, save their spouse(s).&lt;/i&gt;

Makes one wonder how Islamic man ever met Islamic woman in the first place.

#27 - &lt;i&gt;WTF does socialized medicine have to do with it?&lt;/i&gt;

What does it ever have to do with anything? How do the &quot;Hollywood types&quot; get involved? When did the Marxists get involved? What about that &quot;homesexual agenda&quot;? Why do liberals hate America?

Who knows how axes get ground...  One thing is for sure... If we ever need to chop down a forest in an emergency, the right wing is sharpened and ready to go.

Yay for axe grinding!

#32 - &lt;i&gt;I’m with the Don’t Comply…Say Goodbye crowd. Why are these people always pandered to? &lt;/i&gt;

Who said they were being pandered to? Is there a rash of unsanitary Islamic surgeries going on?

But why not pander to them? We pander to the damned Christian Right all the time. One delusional myth is as good as another.


#35 - In the future, start your posts with &quot;Once upon a time&quot; and end them with &quot;they lived happily ever after.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 &#8211; <i>No, Islamic people are forbidden from having any contact with the opposite sex, save their spouse(s).</i></p>
<p>Makes one wonder how Islamic man ever met Islamic woman in the first place.</p>
<p>#27 &#8211; <i>WTF does socialized medicine have to do with it?</i></p>
<p>What does it ever have to do with anything? How do the &#8220;Hollywood types&#8221; get involved? When did the Marxists get involved? What about that &#8220;homesexual agenda&#8221;? Why do liberals hate America?</p>
<p>Who knows how axes get ground&#8230;  One thing is for sure&#8230; If we ever need to chop down a forest in an emergency, the right wing is sharpened and ready to go.</p>
<p>Yay for axe grinding!</p>
<p>#32 &#8211; <i>I’m with the Don’t Comply…Say Goodbye crowd. Why are these people always pandered to? </i></p>
<p>Who said they were being pandered to? Is there a rash of unsanitary Islamic surgeries going on?</p>
<p>But why not pander to them? We pander to the damned Christian Right all the time. One delusional myth is as good as another.</p>
<p>#35 &#8211; In the future, start your posts with &#8220;Once upon a time&#8221; and end them with &#8220;they lived happily ever after.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Monster's Lawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Monster's Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 uzam - Time for your religion to clean house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 uzam &#8211; Time for your religion to clean house.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubiquitous Talking Head</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ubiquitous Talking Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Proud to have voted for Bushie ! And hereby self-nominated BIG dumbass !!&lt;/i&gt;

Seconded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Proud to have voted for Bushie ! And hereby self-nominated BIG dumbass !!</i></p>
<p>Seconded.</p>
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		<title>By: TheGlobalWarmingNemesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheGlobalWarmingNemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 - There are still some sane people left in Europe.  Good for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 &#8211; There are still some sane people left in Europe.  Good for you!</p>
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		<title>By: uzam</title>
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		<dc:creator>uzam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33. I checked out the website you linked. What am I supposed to look for?
About Taliban- you heard, I heard. You heard they banned women from education. I heard they banned intersex mingling, separate education is allowed and education and searching and gaining knowledge is a must upon every muslim male or female. That is the rule in Islam. Whatever Taliban or taliband as you put it did, its their choice , that does not mean thats how it is in islam. I am no watcher over them or have no connection to them whatsoever. When you say muslim you have to keep in mind, &quot;muslim&quot; means &quot;one who surrenders to the will of god&quot; as &quot;your will (god&#039;s will) will be done on earth&quot; as in christianity. Lord&#039;s prayer, right? So when a muslim uses the word &quot;muslim&quot; or reads it in the qur&#039;an, he/she means whover surrendered his/her will to god since the creation of adam. Islam or muslims did not appear just 1500 years ago. All who believed in god and acted upon his commands more or less is muslim. Adam, noah, abraham, ishmael, jacob, jonah, moses, jesus, muhammad, the sun, the moon , the stars, the wind , the stones, the flowers, the ants, the trees, the clouds, the animals etc.
Do you hold any belief, Pedro?  Do you read Old or New Testament, go to church? You don&#039;t have to answer. Thanks for your reply though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33. I checked out the website you linked. What am I supposed to look for?<br />
About Taliban- you heard, I heard. You heard they banned women from education. I heard they banned intersex mingling, separate education is allowed and education and searching and gaining knowledge is a must upon every muslim male or female. That is the rule in Islam. Whatever Taliban or taliband as you put it did, its their choice , that does not mean thats how it is in islam. I am no watcher over them or have no connection to them whatsoever. When you say muslim you have to keep in mind, &#8220;muslim&#8221; means &#8220;one who surrenders to the will of god&#8221; as &#8220;your will (god&#8217;s will) will be done on earth&#8221; as in christianity. Lord&#8217;s prayer, right? So when a muslim uses the word &#8220;muslim&#8221; or reads it in the qur&#8217;an, he/she means whover surrendered his/her will to god since the creation of adam. Islam or muslims did not appear just 1500 years ago. All who believed in god and acted upon his commands more or less is muslim. Adam, noah, abraham, ishmael, jacob, jonah, moses, jesus, muhammad, the sun, the moon , the stars, the wind , the stones, the flowers, the ants, the trees, the clouds, the animals etc.<br />
Do you hold any belief, Pedro?  Do you read Old or New Testament, go to church? You don&#8217;t have to answer. Thanks for your reply though.</p>
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		<title>By: DeLeMa</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeLeMa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh !! Talk about much ado and don&#039;t..crapola dudes and dudettes !! You really believe these folks will spread superbugs ? I suppose that&#039;s possible, kinda like it&#039;s possible me an&#039; JCD are going to hook up ?
(not gay but if he tickles just so..) 
I just can&#039;t handle someone intelligent enough to actually suffer the rigors of becoming a doctor not understanding contagion and vectors and all the rest of that there schtuff. 
#27 - WTF is wrong with &quot;dumbass&quot;...wooodbutt ??
Proud to have voted for Bushie ! And hereby self-nominated BIG dumbass !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh !! Talk about much ado and don&#8217;t..crapola dudes and dudettes !! You really believe these folks will spread superbugs ? I suppose that&#8217;s possible, kinda like it&#8217;s possible me an&#8217; JCD are going to hook up ?<br />
(not gay but if he tickles just so..)<br />
I just can&#8217;t handle someone intelligent enough to actually suffer the rigors of becoming a doctor not understanding contagion and vectors and all the rest of that there schtuff.<br />
#27 &#8211; WTF is wrong with &#8220;dumbass&#8221;&#8230;wooodbutt ??<br />
Proud to have voted for Bushie ! And hereby self-nominated BIG dumbass !!</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 or, muslim women can go learn indian medicine and witchcraft. That&#039;s a luicrative bussiness. Next, they could conquer psychic networks.

#28 helpin muslims and non muslims? doing what, suicide bombing and raping?

And last I checked, the Taliband banned women from learning anything. Now, tell me again that I&#039;m wrong.

And in your reply to #19 you said that most muslims wash more than surgeons. In case this is true, do they wash better than surgeons. By the looks of it, it is you the one who needs to read more than this blog, or that other book for that matter.

#30 Here&#039;s one http://tinyurl.com/yspz2h</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 or, muslim women can go learn indian medicine and witchcraft. That&#8217;s a luicrative bussiness. Next, they could conquer psychic networks.</p>
<p>#28 helpin muslims and non muslims? doing what, suicide bombing and raping?</p>
<p>And last I checked, the Taliband banned women from learning anything. Now, tell me again that I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>And in your reply to #19 you said that most muslims wash more than surgeons. In case this is true, do they wash better than surgeons. By the looks of it, it is you the one who needs to read more than this blog, or that other book for that matter.</p>
<p>#30 Here&#8217;s one <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yspz2h" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/yspz2h' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yspz2h</a></p>
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		<title>By: jasmoran66</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasmoran66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with the Don&#039;t Comply...Say Goodbye crowd. Why are these people always pandered to? Actually, I think I know the answer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with the Don&#8217;t Comply&#8230;Say Goodbye crowd. Why are these people always pandered to? Actually, I think I know the answer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its bad enough that we can&#039;t get regular doctors to wash their hands or sanitize their ties, we now have to deal with a bunch of wooden box worshippers that think elbows are too sexy to show in public.

Even the guy at my local greasy spoon exhibits good handwashing procedures and all he does is make the the cheeseburger special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its bad enough that we can&#8217;t get regular doctors to wash their hands or sanitize their ties, we now have to deal with a bunch of wooden box worshippers that think elbows are too sexy to show in public.</p>
<p>Even the guy at my local greasy spoon exhibits good handwashing procedures and all he does is make the the cheeseburger special.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strict Muslims seeking to learn modern medicine, makes even less sense than say Quakers becoming doctors (which as far as I know, they haven&#039;t). They&#039;re not very realistic if they insist on all medical and hygenic procedures taking a backseat to their religious hangup about bodily exposure. Before attempting to join the 21th century of medical technology, maybe they should start be questioning some of these 18th century rules of theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strict Muslims seeking to learn modern medicine, makes even less sense than say Quakers becoming doctors (which as far as I know, they haven&#8217;t). They&#8217;re not very realistic if they insist on all medical and hygenic procedures taking a backseat to their religious hangup about bodily exposure. Before attempting to join the 21th century of medical technology, maybe they should start be questioning some of these 18th century rules of theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Bix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Bix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comply or goodbye.
Fire them.
If they take legal action, see ya in court.</description>
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Fire them.<br />
If they take legal action, see ya in court.</p>
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		<title>By: uzam</title>
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		<dc:creator>uzam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all: My last post about a petition to remove someone&#039;s picture from Wikipedia didn&#039;t show up, didn&#039;t get the approval on Dv. UNCENSORED, I guess.

#3. Mainly they will treat muslims, I believe that&#039;s why they are in it, bcaz there isn&#039;t enough muslim female doctors in communities. That in no way means they are going to be ONLY for muslims. I know most will find this hard to believe but there is a great reward to help any human- muslim or non-muslim according to islamic teachings. I know, the teachings you would  not bother looking for in these days while  there are plenty other to post about.
#4. No, you don&#039;t know Pedro. You have to go read something other than this blog &quot;to know&quot;.
#5. Do you even know how many muslim doctors functioning in all the public AND private practices all over the US and Canada and Europe? In one small mosque/community I know of at least 7 doctors and I am new to this southern state. And at least 5 university teachers and nuclear physicists engineers working for state etc. You may have dealt with muslim professionals before but you didn&#039;t recognize them as such, because they do not feel they have to mention they are muslim everytime someone benefits from them.
#6. They are working on it. You guys always complain how the most respectable politicians of your country are so wishy-washy, but as you can see our sisters can stand their ground firmly, teaching the &#039;flip-floppers&#039; something. Just 100 years ago you would not think to be this intolerant to a nun&#039;s clothing. Some people forget too quick.
#7. They were not always anti-muslim. They used to be anti-soviet, anti-hippie, anti-communist,anti-french, anti-black, anti-spanish/mexican, anti-jew, anti-native american, anti-england/queen, etc(not in this order). But hey go with the flow, right? Its always easy. Don&#039;t forget to call the CNNBCBSFOX watching people &quot;sheeple&quot;, sheeple.
#10. &quot;Their religious beliefs and the science of health are NOT contradictory&quot; What belief did Avicenna (Canons) hold then? Abu Ali Ibn Cina is his real name. May be you should read some real history. At least catch PBS &quot;islam-empire of faith&quot;.
Search on youtube for American, Czech German, Hindu, Japanese Doctors accepting islam, check out Smith &quot;chip&quot; clay on google.
 #19. Muslims usually wash their hands, hands with elbows, their face, their ears, their feet at least 3 times each, 5 different times a day! This is more than some surgeons. You eat at drive thru fast food and complain that a lady does not want to show her elbows? That does not nean they don&#039;t or can&#039;t wash and keep clean.
#23. Neither Black plague nor Inquisition is a muslim/Islamic product. Fact check!
#24. Or else what? Are you gonna use more exclamation signs? Just kidding!!!! ; ) 
Take a vacation and visit some mosques, eat and drink with people in them. Best time is after Friday prayer and week ends usually there is a feast in the mosques, no invitation required or checked.
#25. Yep.
#26. Yepp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: My last post about a petition to remove someone&#8217;s picture from Wikipedia didn&#8217;t show up, didn&#8217;t get the approval on Dv. UNCENSORED, I guess.</p>
<p>#3. Mainly they will treat muslims, I believe that&#8217;s why they are in it, bcaz there isn&#8217;t enough muslim female doctors in communities. That in no way means they are going to be ONLY for muslims. I know most will find this hard to believe but there is a great reward to help any human- muslim or non-muslim according to islamic teachings. I know, the teachings you would  not bother looking for in these days while  there are plenty other to post about.<br />
#4. No, you don&#8217;t know Pedro. You have to go read something other than this blog &#8220;to know&#8221;.<br />
#5. Do you even know how many muslim doctors functioning in all the public AND private practices all over the US and Canada and Europe? In one small mosque/community I know of at least 7 doctors and I am new to this southern state. And at least 5 university teachers and nuclear physicists engineers working for state etc. You may have dealt with muslim professionals before but you didn&#8217;t recognize them as such, because they do not feel they have to mention they are muslim everytime someone benefits from them.<br />
#6. They are working on it. You guys always complain how the most respectable politicians of your country are so wishy-washy, but as you can see our sisters can stand their ground firmly, teaching the &#8216;flip-floppers&#8217; something. Just 100 years ago you would not think to be this intolerant to a nun&#8217;s clothing. Some people forget too quick.<br />
#7. They were not always anti-muslim. They used to be anti-soviet, anti-hippie, anti-communist,anti-french, anti-black, anti-spanish/mexican, anti-jew, anti-native american, anti-england/queen, etc(not in this order). But hey go with the flow, right? Its always easy. Don&#8217;t forget to call the CNNBCBSFOX watching people &#8220;sheeple&#8221;, sheeple.<br />
#10. &#8220;Their religious beliefs and the science of health are NOT contradictory&#8221; What belief did Avicenna (Canons) hold then? Abu Ali Ibn Cina is his real name. May be you should read some real history. At least catch PBS &#8220;islam-empire of faith&#8221;.<br />
Search on youtube for American, Czech German, Hindu, Japanese Doctors accepting islam, check out Smith &#8220;chip&#8221; clay on google.<br />
 #19. Muslims usually wash their hands, hands with elbows, their face, their ears, their feet at least 3 times each, 5 different times a day! This is more than some surgeons. You eat at drive thru fast food and complain that a lady does not want to show her elbows? That does not nean they don&#8217;t or can&#8217;t wash and keep clean.<br />
#23. Neither Black plague nor Inquisition is a muslim/Islamic product. Fact check!<br />
#24. Or else what? Are you gonna use more exclamation signs? Just kidding!!!! ; )<br />
Take a vacation and visit some mosques, eat and drink with people in them. Best time is after Friday prayer and week ends usually there is a feast in the mosques, no invitation required or checked.<br />
#25. Yep.<br />
#26. Yepp.</p>
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