Aahhh, once again you raise your ignorance to a new level.

Bill Clinton will stand among the best of Presidents. This nation has seldom known the prosperity it had when Clinton was President. Very few people then, or now, blame Clinton for lying about a personal matter. Most people were more upset with the money squandered by Kenneth Starr. Elian Gonzales was a police matter and handled as such. I only wish the “family” had been charged for the extra police costs they cost the nation. The Bills that Clinton signed had more to do with his philosophy that the Congress represents the people and their will should not be dismissed

George W. Bush will challenge Buchannan and Pierce for worst President of all time.

Reagan brought us closer to nuclear war than any other person. He broke the law and pardoned his minions. BTW, The USSR self imploded with Glasnost. Reagan had nothing to do with it.

The *media* is made up of a bunch of mostly second rate college losers who get to pass along their personal opinions as *news* these days.

In Olberman’s case, he is not a reporter. He is more accurately a commentator. He doesn’t report news, he comments on it.

No one in todays world really follows the ethics of journalists of the past and just reports the news and keeps commentary on the editorial page anymore.

Is that opinion or more “fact”. In case you didn’t notice, again, Olberman, as well as his contemporaries, all posit analysis. It is rare they report the news although on the rare occasion that will happen.

I think, and this is just my opinion, that you are more bothered because the news media on the whole does not support Bush. He will get NO POINTS for his resolve which most rational people think of as blind stubbornness in spite of the facts. He will be sadly dismissed for his “principles” which consist of “His way or the or you’re a traitor”. Last of all, his actions in Africa will fade into the obscurity they deserve simply because he hasn’t done anything to benefit the continent.

#50…Rick Cain….please…just for the fun of it…name those 31 cabinet members.

Good response. You beat me o it.

… only reason it’s being held up by Pelosi is because she was told in no uncertain terms that the Trial Lawyers will plug it’s contribution hole to the Democrats if they allowed the telecoms to get immunity.

OK, if it is fair for you to demand Rick Cain back up his claim, how about you back up your claim?

I feel sorry for you americans but you RE-ELECTED the bastard!
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With a little help from Diebold…

(And not from watching his show, haha. I can’t stand pompous gas bags like this clown or O’Reilly who think their feeble thoughts are so damn important.)

You cannot be serious. He won both elections by less than 50% of the vote. If we are able to look past the fact that he was impeached by the House for lying to the Grand Jury, he backed down on the issue of homosexuals in the military, signed the DMCA and the Defense of Marriage Act and don’t even get me started on how his administration handled the whole Elian Gonzales episode. If his record on military affairs had been nothing instead of what it was, it would have been an improvement. Had the Internet boom not happened, his Presidency would have been seen as below average. He belongs where most historians will put him: in the middle which coincidentally is where they will put GWB.

>> Reagan is regarded as some kind of hero
> For reasons I can’t possibly understand.

End of the Cold War? Defeat of the Soviet Union perhaps?

The economy was due to collapse for ten years now, but the last two presidents couldn’t let it go down without a patsy to blame. Bush now has his Patsy and is out of the country when things go down. Stockpile emergency supplies! Advance the doomsday clock!

Olberman is a stooge. Whoever compared him to O’Reilly had that one pegged right. Neither should be considered anything more than entertainment for the far right and the far left, not for serious individuals.

The *media* is made up of a bunch of mostly second rate college losers who get to pass along their personal opinions as *news* these days. No one in todays world really follows the ethics of journalists of the past and just reports the news and keeps commentary on the editorial page anymore.

Bush will go down as primarily a failure. Though he will get points for *resolve*, standing on his princibles*, and his efforts to help Africa.

All of this feigned horror over the telecom’s and the spying bill is phoney bullshit. There is hardly a prominiet Democrat or Republican who didn’t support this program when it was first brought up and the only reason it’s being held up by Pelosi is because she was told in no uncertain terms that the Trial Lawyers will plug it’s contribution hole to the Democrats if they allowed the telecoms to get immunity. No one here gives a rats ass about intelligence gathering. But wait until the next attack does come, and it will, our luck can’t last forever, and watch the Democrats burn their own at the stake.

President Obama and President Clinton will want this program as it is….wait and see.

I’m not sure who does, but it’s clear that you don’t.

The media either praise the democrats or they praise the republicans. Even a couple praise the independents and Ron Paul.

I love hearing people pontificate on the topic of that wonderous institution, the global, monolithic media.

You realize, I hope, that “the media” is news, both large and small corporate news agencies, across 6 continents, in print, broadcast (radio, TV) and on the Internet, and it is also entertainment, which comprises all forms of fictional and reality shows, pundit shows, talk show, the Daily Show and brethren, and Fox News, as well as thousands of online sources, and if this run on sentence isn’t long enough already, C-Span and a gazillion public access and government feeds worldwide are in that mix too.

It is a fairly good bet that “the media” isn’t just praise for Republicans or Democrats, which, like Ron Paul, are proper nouns, and thus capitalized.

Same goes for all the celebrites that come out of the woodworks but very few actually have objective opinions.

And neither do you.

It’s always about some kind of agenda to eithe rmake their rooting interest better or make the opposing interes worse.

An agenda in this context being defined as what motivates people who disagree with you to speak.

Bush has been a bad president,

Understated, but granted.

but Clinton wasn’t any good, Sr.

I wholeheartedly disagree and would easily place him near Kennedy or either Roosevelt in a list of 20th Century Presidents.

Bush wasn’t that good,

No argument here, though far better than his son and far better than:

Reagan is regarded as some kind of hero

For reasons I can’t possibly understand.

Carter was a joke

If you think honesty and integrity are jokes.

Ford probably was the best of the bunch

Because he caused the least damage?

Nixon was ok

Like having cancer is okay.

LBJ had issues

But he stepped up to the plate in regards to civil rights, and that shouldn’t be denied.

So the reality is, Bush might be one of the worst presidents of all time

And he is.

but then again, the US really hasn’t had a good president in the past 50+ years.

Respectfully, bullshit.

And they sure haven’t had too many good politicians.

And if there were, you’d never realize it as long as you represent that uniquely pessimistic demographic of cynical, sky is falling, they’re all a bunch of crooks, we’re all doomed voters who can sure dish out the disdain for our corrupt system but never seem to have an idea of their own and surely never step forward to serve in politics.

Yet the media is about as objective as Google and Microsoft are when it comes to talking about one another.. Which is, not objective at all.

And how, pray tell, does one have an objective discussion of so subjective a subject, and how can I present my argument in the political arena if you are simply going to dismiss it as being driven by an “agenda”?

Bonus Points==which of the foregoing mark Bushieboy as second only to Regan as the greatest president?

There isn’t a question in the video that I would have answered wrong, and thus, had I been interviewed, my bits would not have made the final cut.

Oddly enough, I don’t know anyone, ever, who has been stopped and asked questions on camera about politics or current events.

Aside from a couple of this site’s knuckdragging trolls, has anyone here ever been stopped and asked about current events or politics?