Comments on: Let’s go straight from XP to 7 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:39:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: love uahh bab http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1115792 love uahh bab Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:31:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1115792 hey robots rule hey robots rule

]]> By: zorkor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1068735 zorkor Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:33:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1068735 I hope and pray that windows 7 will be consumer friendly cuz man vista sucks and I used it. I hope and pray that windows 7 will be consumer friendly cuz man vista sucks and I used it.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1067549 Jeff Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:53:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1067549 The joke is going to be on the consumer when Microsoft releases Windows 7 and it is mostly a repackaged version of Vista. This OS is going to be evolutionary and not revolutionary. The joke is going to be on the consumer when Microsoft releases Windows 7 and it is mostly a repackaged version of Vista. This OS is going to be evolutionary and not revolutionary.

]]> By: James Hill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1067385 James Hill Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:04:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1067385 This is a precious thread: Gates has turned in to an old man, ignoring the fact the technology Windows is based on is dated and broken... and you guys can't call him on it because you find yourselves stuck using it. This is a precious thread: Gates has turned in to an old man, ignoring the fact the technology Windows is based on is dated and broken… and you guys can’t call him on it because you find yourselves stuck using it.

]]> By: The Pirate http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1067185 The Pirate Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:17:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1067185 I would wager that 90% of people who complain about Vista have never run the operating system. Does Vista have more bloat? Yes it does. Does it matter? Not if you have a newer system. Does Vista have DRM restrictions that slow or bog down your system? Yep. Is there anyway around that? Yep. You mean you can turn that stuff off? Nope, but you can eliminate the DRM 'effect' very easily. After that it simply takes up around 50MB of RAM/system resources, no big deal when you have 4GB Duel Channel. First of the year I decided to build a new system to replace my P4. I already have a few XP/Pro licenses so I thought what the hell I'll get Vista 64Bit OEM (cheap) and give it a try and see whats up. If it didn't work out or just plain sucked I could easily slap XP on there and be done with it. Turns out if you think Vista is the new ME then you are sadly living in the past, I remember that turd O/S well and there is no comparison. If you have a decent modern machine, Vista is no better or worse than XP. If your computer sucks well Vista will suck. I put it on an old Celeron 2.0GHz w/512RAM, it installed fine, drivers ok, ran like absolute crap. I run XP/VISTA/RH/UBUNTU on a variety of machines depending on what I need from that machine. All these O/S's have their quirks. Now all the stupid marketing tricks to rollout Vista on sub-par machines and with premature drivers most certainly bit Microsoft in the ass. Good they deserve it. Little hint Microsoft, build a quality finished(!)product, people will buy it - no marketing trick bullshit required. Oh and btw, nice try with the DRM thing, all my (500+) movies and songs (1000+) I have pirated/payed for/downloaded/ripped or otherwise acquired work perfectly fine on my Vista system, either viewing on the monitor or viewing on my various big screens located through out the house. Of course I don't use Windows Media Player, but who would use that piece of crap for anything, WMP has sucked since 1998. I would wager that 90% of people who complain about Vista have never run the operating system. Does Vista have more bloat? Yes it does. Does it matter? Not if you have a newer system. Does Vista have DRM restrictions that slow or bog down your system? Yep. Is there anyway around that? Yep. You mean you can turn that stuff off? Nope, but you can eliminate the DRM ‘effect’ very easily. After that it simply takes up around 50MB of RAM/system resources, no big deal when you have 4GB Duel Channel.

First of the year I decided to build a new system to replace my P4. I already have a few XP/Pro licenses so I thought what the hell I’ll get Vista 64Bit OEM (cheap) and give it a try and see whats up. If it didn’t work out or just plain sucked I could easily slap XP on there and be done with it. Turns out if you think Vista is the new ME then you are sadly living in the past, I remember that turd O/S well and there is no comparison. If you have a decent modern machine, Vista is no better or worse than XP. If your computer sucks well Vista will suck. I put it on an old Celeron 2.0GHz w/512RAM, it installed fine, drivers ok, ran like absolute crap.

I run XP/VISTA/RH/UBUNTU on a variety of machines depending on what I need from that machine. All these O/S’s have their quirks.

Now all the stupid marketing tricks to rollout Vista on sub-par machines and with premature drivers most certainly bit Microsoft in the ass. Good they deserve it. Little hint Microsoft, build a quality finished(!)product, people will buy it – no marketing trick bullshit required.

Oh and btw, nice try with the DRM thing, all my (500+) movies and songs (1000+) I have pirated/payed for/downloaded/ripped or otherwise acquired work perfectly fine on my Vista system, either viewing on the monitor or viewing on my various big screens located through out the house. Of course I don’t use Windows Media Player, but who would use that piece of crap for anything, WMP has sucked since 1998.

]]> By: jrtiberius http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1067076 jrtiberius Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:56:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1067076 "He said new versions of Windows would help revolutionize mobile phones and run the desk of the future, which would have a touch surface display allowing users to call up items using their hands." Great! I don't have a desk with touch screen display, nor any hopes of getting one this decade... what I do have is a Vista operating system which takes 1 min 30 seconds to open Outlook and Word. Instead of designing an operating system for some distant future tech revolution, how about one that will do what I need it to do quickly and with my existing hardware. “He said new versions of Windows would help revolutionize mobile phones and run the desk of the future, which would have a touch surface display allowing users to call up items using their hands.”
Great! I don’t have a desk with touch screen display, nor any hopes of getting one this decade… what I do have is a Vista operating system which takes 1 min 30 seconds to open Outlook and Word. Instead of designing an operating system for some distant future tech revolution, how about one that will do what I need it to do quickly and with my existing hardware.

]]> By: Improbus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066978 Improbus Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:02:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066978 There is one way Microsoft could get a new OS out the door in that time frame ... Microsoft Linux. We are the Borg ... you will be assimilated. There is one way Microsoft could get a new OS out the door in that time frame … Microsoft Linux. We are the Borg … you will be assimilated.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066697 pedro Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:39:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066697 #18 now becoming a viable OS? you nuts? haven't you seen what a monumental disaster SP1 was? #19 well, vista is windows 6. And that's that. #22 the problems is not pong players, it's corporate software & hardware support. Get it? Or you think corporations will do an IT turn on a dime. #18 now becoming a viable OS? you nuts? haven’t you seen what a monumental disaster SP1 was?

#19 well, vista is windows 6. And that’s that.

#22 the problems is not pong players, it’s corporate software & hardware support. Get it? Or you think corporations will do an IT turn on a dime.

]]> By: Mr. Catshit http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066450 Mr. Catshit Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:32:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066450 I can only hope that WIN 7 is a smaller OS using a lot fewer resources. I don't know anyone who uses 1/10 of anything XP is capable of doing. There is so much waste. The answer is NOT more cores, or higher frequencies, or gigs of memory. The answer is to stop piling on all the bullshit in the OS. I can only hope that WIN 7 is a smaller OS using a lot fewer resources. I don’t know anyone who uses 1/10 of anything XP is capable of doing. There is so much waste.

The answer is NOT more cores, or higher frequencies, or gigs of memory. The answer is to stop piling on all the bullshit in the OS.

]]> By: pjakobs http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066363 pjakobs Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:38:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066363 finally! pj finally!

pj

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066318 ECA Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:10:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066318 20, its NOT an OS/Dos... Its a Full programming environment, Wrapped around an interface. ADD to that, Internal Interfaces, to deal with OTHER interfaces like Java, HTML, and soforth... AND ALL OF IT, written by??? Then you wonder WHY MY writes there OWN Java, HTML, ACTIVEX, and soforth... 20,
its NOT an OS/Dos…

Its a Full programming environment, Wrapped around an interface.
ADD to that, Internal Interfaces, to deal with OTHER interfaces like Java, HTML, and soforth…

AND ALL OF IT, written by???
Then you wonder WHY MY writes there OWN Java, HTML, ACTIVEX, and soforth…

]]> By: CyberInferno http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066281 CyberInferno Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:38:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066281 @20: The last Microsoft OS to be based on DOS was Windows ME. Win2K and beyond do not have DOS at their core. "Gates is blowing hot air, we won’t see another windows until 2011. But he’s making the argument easy to switch to mac." Right...because it's not like Apple releases a new OS every year and a half or so... @20: The last Microsoft OS to be based on DOS was Windows ME. Win2K and beyond do not have DOS at their core.

“Gates is blowing hot air, we won’t see another windows until 2011. But he’s making the argument easy to switch to mac.”

Right…because it’s not like Apple releases a new OS every year and a half or so…

]]> By: andy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066270 andy Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:25:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066270 i wonder if ms could create 2 separate products; one for business and one for everyone else. it almost seems like while they want to convey the appearance of this - they're actually more interested in maintaining some kind of momemtum of what's come before, rather than really innovating i wonder if ms could create 2 separate products; one for business and one for everyone else. it almost seems like while they want to convey the appearance of this – they’re actually more interested in maintaining some kind of momemtum of what’s come before, rather than really innovating

]]> By: Nimby http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066230 Nimby Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:49:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066230 They didn't have the time to include all the features promised in Vista. We'll add 'em in later, they promised. After SP1 they seem to be silent on the matter. Vista was a step backward in all ways except eye candy. So, now that Vista is nowhere near what they promised, they plan to rush a new version out the door? Windows is ungainly and ancient architecture. The time has come to step back and create a new OS designed for modern machines. Drop all the legacy functions. WHo cares if it can play pong? Get rid of the archaic registry system. Keep supporting XP for the next decade to let people fully depreciate their current machines and software but make the OS reflect the state of modern hardware and software. Prepare for future innovations and let the past slide into history. They didn’t have the time to include all the features promised in Vista. We’ll add ‘em in later, they promised. After SP1 they seem to be silent on the matter. Vista was a step backward in all ways except eye candy. So, now that Vista is nowhere near what they promised, they plan to rush a new version out the door?

Windows is ungainly and ancient architecture. The time has come to step back and create a new OS designed for modern machines. Drop all the legacy functions. WHo cares if it can play pong? Get rid of the archaic registry system. Keep supporting XP for the next decade to let people fully depreciate their current machines and software but make the OS reflect the state of modern hardware and software.

Prepare for future innovations and let the past slide into history.

]]> By: MRN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/04/lets-go-straight-from-xp-to-7/comment-page-2/#comment-1066155 MRN Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:32:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17028#comment-1066155 It's all a matter of marketing,showcasing the OS'es NT (new technology--hehe, not so new today) lineage, just look up the OS version in your system information: Windows NT 3 Windows NT 4 Windows XP -- 5 Windows Vista -- 6 Windows 7 -- 7 It’s all a matter of marketing,showcasing the OS’es NT (new technology–hehe, not so new today) lineage, just look up the OS version in your system information:
Windows NT 3
Windows NT 4
Windows XP — 5
Windows Vista — 6
Windows 7 — 7

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