Comments on: Video: Plane Landing of the Day http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:17:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: QB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1083633 QB Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:35:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1083633 There's tons of vids at YouTube of Kai Tak landings. A good hour or more of entertainment. This one isn't from Kai Tak, but it's still my favourite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwUIOpOuBuk There’s tons of vids at YouTube of Kai Tak landings. A good hour or more of entertainment. This one isn’t from Kai Tak, but it’s still my favourite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwUIOpOuBuk

]]> By: HBear http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1083570 HBear Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:33:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1083570 My dad landed there a few times, at first as a pilot, and later as a passenger, in both commercial and military aircraft. His best description of that airport was that it was "scary", especially looking out the windows at washing hanging out of windows that were at eye level with him. BTW, there were special training manuals for landing there, and most older Boeing simulators have still got a special flight sim for it, as a reminder to pilots as to how pear shaped it can get if you get it slightly wrong. My dad landed there a few times, at first as a pilot, and later as a passenger, in both commercial and military aircraft. His best description of that airport was that it was “scary”, especially looking out the windows at washing hanging out of windows that were at eye level with him. BTW, there were special training manuals for landing there, and most older Boeing simulators have still got a special flight sim for it, as a reminder to pilots as to how pear shaped it can get if you get it slightly wrong.

]]> By: Fly the Narrows http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1083553 Fly the Narrows Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:02:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1083553 Wow - simple as that Wow – simple as that

]]> By: hhopper http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1083181 hhopper Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:09:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1083181 #14 - <img src="http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/mambochino/smileys/th_16-1.gif" alt="" /> #14 –

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1083092 bobbo Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:45:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1083092 #14--Hayden==the amount of oil found in wok cooking does not justify invading China, although the neocons might disagree. #15--pj--that kind of curve exists for most subjects on most blogs. I am getting comfortable though that most people have to misstate my position in order to argue against it. Actually makes my response too easy. I'm glad for the few here that have sharpened my skills and given me a few things to think about. What "actually" happened 10 years ago on a runway in China isn't one of them. #14–Hayden==the amount of oil found in wok cooking does not justify invading China, although the neocons might disagree.

#15–pj–that kind of curve exists for most subjects on most blogs. I am getting comfortable though that most people have to misstate my position in order to argue against it. Actually makes my response too easy. I’m glad for the few here that have sharpened my skills and given me a few things to think about.

What “actually” happened 10 years ago on a runway in China isn’t one of them.

]]> By: pjakobs http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1083072 pjakobs Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:34:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1083072 #13, bobbo: as anyone who has ever read a thread on pprune knows , the level of flying knowledge decreases along this list: non-aviators, private pilots, atc personnel, atpl. pj #13, bobbo: as anyone who has ever read a thread on pprune knows , the level of flying knowledge decreases along this list: non-aviators, private pilots, atc personnel, atpl.

pj

]]> By: hayden http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1083054 hayden Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:23:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1083054 Obligatory "It's Bush's fault" comment like on every other article: BUSH CREATED THE CROSSWIND CONSPIRACY TO CRASH THIS PLANE AND ATTACK THIS FOREIGN ASIAN COUNTRY FOR ITS OIL RESERVES!!!!!1111 LOL BUSH IS DUM Obligatory “It’s Bush’s fault” comment like on every other article:

BUSH CREATED THE CROSSWIND CONSPIRACY TO CRASH THIS PLANE AND ATTACK THIS FOREIGN ASIAN COUNTRY FOR ITS OIL RESERVES!!!!!1111 LOL BUSH IS DUM

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082989 bobbo Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:29:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082989 #10--Stu==yes I am full of it. Experience and insightful intellect. I don't deny the crosswind, I just say it doesn't look like it until the very last moment. Whats wrong with that? Why do I have to assume the validity of the post or comments? I have never seen a "checkerboard approach" or landed at that airport so whats wrong with being skeptical of something outside my own experience? So stud==what was the wind at the time of landing? I'll take your non-response as you don't know and like most ground pounders, you just love making assumptions. #10–Stu==yes I am full of it. Experience and insightful intellect.

I don’t deny the crosswind, I just say it doesn’t look like it until the very last moment. Whats wrong with that? Why do I have to assume the validity of the post or comments?

I have never seen a “checkerboard approach” or landed at that airport so whats wrong with being skeptical of something outside my own experience?

So stud==what was the wind at the time of landing? I’ll take your non-response as you don’t know and like most ground pounders, you just love making assumptions.

]]> By: Balbas http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082968 Balbas Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:13:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082968 Reminds me of when three C-130's executed a low-flyover of a civil terminal, made a sharp 90-degree turn and then immediately landed. Obviously they were practicing for combat. It scared the hell outta many people peering out the terminal windows, including the staff. Reminds me of when three C-130′s executed a low-flyover of a civil terminal, made a sharp 90-degree turn and then immediately landed.

Obviously they were practicing for combat. It scared the hell outta many people peering out the terminal windows, including the staff.

]]> By: edwinrogers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082958 edwinrogers Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:07:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082958 I have landed in a 747 at Kai Tak, in fact on the day that it closed. It was the most memorable landing in my life. A tribute to Boeing engineering as much to pilot training. They had a special set of runway lights to tell the pilot to apply full reverse thrust and brake, or to apply full power and overshoot, like on old aircraft carriers. Local chinese people harvested rice, by hand, adjacent to the tarmac. I have landed in a 747 at Kai Tak, in fact on the day that it closed. It was the most memorable landing in my life. A tribute to Boeing engineering as much to pilot training. They had a special set of runway lights to tell the pilot to apply full reverse thrust and brake, or to apply full power and overshoot, like on old aircraft carriers. Local chinese people harvested rice, by hand, adjacent to the tarmac.

]]> By: Stu http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082945 Stu Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:53:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082945 Bobbo - you are full of it. Plainly a strong crosswind and a masterful job by the pilot. The only question is whether the crosswind factor(s) for the aircraft and/or airline and/or airport were exceeded. ex-Air Traffic Controller (Tower) Bobbo – you are full of it.

Plainly a strong crosswind and a masterful job by the pilot.

The only question is whether the crosswind factor(s) for the aircraft and/or airline and/or airport were exceeded.

ex-Air Traffic Controller (Tower)

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082847 bobbo Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:40:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082847 #8==apeguero--just one of my many life experiences. I have landed at the new/old Hong Kong Airport- the one that makes a straight-in between buildings higher than you are to the left and right. Hard to believe a standard approach would involve such a tight turn on final==but I guess so. Such airports requiring that amount of skill should also require specialization or be closed to general aviation. But what I think should be the case, hardly ever is. #8==apeguero–just one of my many life experiences. I have landed at the new/old Hong Kong Airport- the one that makes a straight-in between buildings higher than you are to the left and right. Hard to believe a standard approach would involve such a tight turn on final==but I guess so. Such airports requiring that amount of skill should also require specialization or be closed to general aviation. But what I think should be the case, hardly ever is.

]]> By: apeguero http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082810 apeguero Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:10:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082810 Hey Boboo, are you a pilot? I'm not, but your answer was exactly what I had thought, the pilot might have turned too far to the right and then corrected with rudder instead of going around. Although it does look like a typical crosswind landing right before flare. What makes it look so dangerous is the Kai Tak approach. Man, it's almost like the old Air Craft Carrier approaches of WWII where Naval and Marine aviators had to approach the carrier from the side and then bank right before touch down. Anyway, the aircraft appears to have JAL markings. Hey Boboo, are you a pilot? I’m not, but your answer was exactly what I had thought, the pilot might have turned too far to the right and then corrected with rudder instead of going around. Although it does look like a typical crosswind landing right before flare. What makes it look so dangerous is the Kai Tak approach. Man, it’s almost like the old Air Craft Carrier approaches of WWII where Naval and Marine aviators had to approach the carrier from the side and then bank right before touch down. Anyway, the aircraft appears to have JAL markings.

]]> By: Nik http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082745 Nik Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:08:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082745 That approach was known as the "Hong Kong Curve" or "checkerboard" and it had to be done that way to avoid China's airspace. The most dangerous approach in the world. Number 3 is right, Kai Tak is now closed. That approach was known as the “Hong Kong Curve” or “checkerboard” and it had to be done that way to avoid China’s airspace. The most dangerous approach in the world. Number 3 is right, Kai Tak is now closed.

]]> By: FRAGaLOT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/13/video-plane-landing-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1082731 FRAGaLOT Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:57:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17196#comment-1082731 I've seen videos like this before posted here on Dvorak's blog. They have to land like how drivers "power slide" I’ve seen videos like this before posted here on Dvorak’s blog. They have to land like how drivers “power slide”

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