Comments on: Podcasting is dead. Long Live… uh…Something Like Podcasting http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:40:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: adambox http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1321766 adambox Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:25:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1321766 where did you get the statistic on % played on ipods? I play mine half and half on my ipod on the subway / walk to work and half at home on my computer so which one do I count as? where did you get the statistic on % played on ipods? I play mine half and half on my ipod on the subway / walk to work and half at home on my computer so which one do I count as?

]]> By: reine http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1286917 reine Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:22:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1286917 CRIMINALS!, NOT:Hackers, you, illiterate!!! CRIMINALS!, NOT:Hackers, you, illiterate!!!

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]]> By: Phillip Molly Malone http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1114285 Phillip Molly Malone Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:53:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1114285 I partially agree John. I think the name change is suggestive, suggestive that Podshow has one of the worst reputaions in the business and Ron and Adam are running away from it quick as they can. I hope you don't lose the right to your name like Steve Gillmor did! And is it company line to mention Leo and Netcast? Cali Lewis did that on her blog as well. Doesn't the Podshow contract have a line about being forced to support other shows (and probably the mother ship)? Sounds like spin to me. I would love to hear the Real Real Dvorak take on this one! Not the Paid off Real Dvorak. Brumski Molly PS. Why no mention of this on Twit? Probably because Crapeio is irrelevant in the industry now! I partially agree John. I think the name change is suggestive, suggestive that Podshow has one of the worst reputaions in the business and Ron and Adam are running away from it quick as they can. I hope you don’t lose the right to your name like Steve Gillmor did!

And is it company line to mention Leo and Netcast? Cali Lewis did that on her blog as well. Doesn’t the Podshow contract have a line about being forced to support other shows (and probably the mother ship)?

Sounds like spin to me.
I would love to hear the Real Real Dvorak take on this one! Not the Paid off Real Dvorak.

Brumski
Molly
PS. Why no mention of this on Twit? Probably because Crapeio is irrelevant in the industry now!

]]> By: Dave Alexander http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1111951 Dave Alexander Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:31:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1111951 Mevio is a joke. PodShow layed off 1/3 of it's staff including the talent relations department. They only focus on a few podcasts and the others that they have signed get nothing, nada, not even a return phone call. They're hijacking other people's feeds still and they don't know how to write up a contract correctly so I don't even think they've got lawyers or at least not good ones. Their website has never worked well and is even more confusing now. I give it 6 months before it's gone. They've spent over 24 mil and still haven't shown a profit. There's a few investors tapping their feet with their arms crossed over this one I'm sure. Mevio is a joke. PodShow layed off 1/3 of it’s staff including the talent relations department. They only focus on a few podcasts and the others that they have signed get nothing, nada, not even a return phone call.

They’re hijacking other people’s feeds still and they don’t know how to write up a contract correctly so I don’t even think they’ve got lawyers or at least not good ones.

Their website has never worked well and is even more confusing now. I give it 6 months before it’s gone. They’ve spent over 24 mil and still haven’t shown a profit. There’s a few investors tapping their feet with their arms crossed over this one I’m sure.

]]> By: AgentPete http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1109629 AgentPete Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:54:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1109629 Feels like a desperate move. Reeks of second-guessing / incompetence. How long should we give Mevio, then? Feels like a desperate move. Reeks of second-guessing / incompetence. How long should we give Mevio, then?

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1108597 bobbo Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:29:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1108597 #62--RBG==excellent distinctions there. Pop culture hates maintaining the bright lines of distinctions though--going for what is cute, singsongy, and easy to remember? I take it though that if one broadened your defintion just a little bit, webcast could be production made on or for webtransmission which would include podcasting, as in 3 categories of distribution: radio, tv, web, shortwave, satellite. All depends on what the context is and what you want to emphasize? #62–RBG==excellent distinctions there. Pop culture hates maintaining the bright lines of distinctions though–going for what is cute, singsongy, and easy to remember?

I take it though that if one broadened your defintion just a little bit, webcast could be production made on or for webtransmission which would include podcasting, as in 3 categories of distribution: radio, tv, web, shortwave, satellite.

All depends on what the context is and what you want to emphasize?

]]> By: RBG http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1108567 RBG Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:00:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1108567 To me, Webcast suggests a video or audio program to be viewed/listened to at a scheduled time on a particular web site simultaneously by a group. Further, you wouldn't call choosing and viewing a Youtube video a webcast. Whereas a podcast uses RSS type technology that will automatically and continually download available <i>subscribed</i> programs whenever your internet-enabled device is connected, for time-shifted viewing that suits your schedule. Maybe not exactly analogous but, Broadcast is to webcast as TIVO is to podcast. To change the name of podcasting because more & more podcasts are less & less professional is like changing the name of cable TV, or even the internet, for the same reason, imho. That's my take on things, anyway. RBG To me, Webcast suggests a video or audio program to be viewed/listened to at a scheduled time on a particular web site simultaneously by a group. Further, you wouldn’t call choosing and viewing a Youtube video a webcast.

Whereas a podcast uses RSS type technology that will automatically and continually download available subscribed programs whenever your internet-enabled device is connected, for time-shifted viewing that suits your schedule.

Maybe not exactly analogous but, Broadcast is to webcast as TIVO is to podcast.

To change the name of podcasting because more & more podcasts are less & less professional is like changing the name of cable TV, or even the internet, for the same reason, imho.

That’s my take on things, anyway.

RBG

]]> By: blackfeathers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-4/#comment-1107308 blackfeathers Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:28:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1107308 the name mevio -being a concatenation of possible root words reminds me too much of 'moviso' -a distributor of mobile content. their name stems from comining the words mobile, vision, & sound. the name 'mevio' still takes some getting used to. the name mevio -being a concatenation of possible root words reminds me too much of ‘moviso’ -a distributor of mobile content. their name stems from comining the words mobile, vision, & sound.

the name ‘mevio’ still takes some getting used to.

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-3/#comment-1107124 bobbo Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:03:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1107124 So, whats wrong with "webcast?" So, whats wrong with “webcast?”

]]> By: pjakobs http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-3/#comment-1107115 pjakobs Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:55:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1107115 just noticed that there's another site called vimeo... or miveo? it's all the same. pj just noticed that there’s another site called vimeo… or miveo? it’s all the same.

pj

]]> By: go mevio yourself http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-3/#comment-1106520 go mevio yourself Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:26:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1106520 The name mevio is not sticking with me. I never liked podcast either as it associates with iPod which I don't have or want, but at least it rings with broadcast. Say mevio 10 times and say podcast 10 times. Mevio starts getting slurred. Podcast is sharp and crisp. "Go get my mevio" someone said. "Go get my podcast" someone said. The person who heard "mevio" isn't sure what to do, wondering what's a "me" and what's a "vio". The other person knew exactly what to do. Someone should pick something better. And it looks like the website requires Flash. Flash is annoying. I don't use it. I avoid websites who do. Stick with WMA which every Windows computer can play. Podshow is a good name but the site has flaws. First, I don't want to download THEIR player, I want a simple WMA file. When I figure out where to get the WMA, half the time it's an old show. What works is when the link to download is on the Dvorak page now. Tell ya what, I'll buy "Podshow.com" for a song and dance when they realize they need to do something else, yea, that's the ticket, when they realize how it's a failed model and don't want it, I'll buy it and post the song and dance number on your MEVIA website or was that MOVIA or MUVIO or MAVIA or MYVIU or MEROFL or something....... The name mevio is not sticking with me. I never liked podcast either as it associates with iPod which I don’t have or want, but at least it rings with broadcast. Say mevio 10 times and say podcast 10 times. Mevio starts getting slurred. Podcast is sharp and crisp. “Go get my mevio” someone said. “Go get my podcast” someone said. The person who heard “mevio” isn’t sure what to do, wondering what’s a “me” and what’s a “vio”. The other person knew exactly what to do. Someone should pick something better. And it looks like the website requires Flash. Flash is annoying. I don’t use it. I avoid websites who do. Stick with WMA which every Windows computer can play. Podshow is a good name but the site has flaws. First, I don’t want to download THEIR player, I want a simple WMA file. When I figure out where to get the WMA, half the time it’s an old show. What works is when the link to download is on the Dvorak page now. Tell ya what, I’ll buy “Podshow.com” for a song and dance when they realize they need to do something else, yea, that’s the ticket, when they realize how it’s a failed model and don’t want it, I’ll buy it and post the song and dance number on your MEVIA website or was that MOVIA or MUVIO or MAVIA or MYVIU or MEROFL or something…….

]]> By: go mevio yourself http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-3/#comment-1106518 go mevio yourself Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:25:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1106518 The name mevio is not sticking with me. I never liked podcast either as it associates with iPod which I don't have or want, but at least it rings with broadcast. Say mevio 10 times and say podcast 10 times. Mevio starts getting slurred. Podcast is sharp and crisp. "Go get my mevio" someone said. "Go get my podcast" someone said. The person who heard "mevio" isn't sure what to do, wondering what's a "me" and what's a "vio". The other person knew exactly what to do. Someone should pick something better. And it looks like the website requires Flash. Flash is annoying. I don't use it. I avoid websites who do. Stick with WMA which every Windows computer can play. Podshow is a good name but the site has flaws. First, I don't want to download THEIR player, I want a simple WMA file. When I figure out where to get the WMA, half the time it's an old show. What works is when the link to download is on the Dvorak page now. Tell ya what, I'll buy "Podshow.com" for a song and dance when they realize they need to do something else, yea, that's the ticket, when they realize how it's a failed model and don't want it, I'll buy it and post the song and dance number on your MEVIA website or was that MOVIA or MUVIO or MAVIA or MYVIU or MEROFL, oh that's right it's MOOVOVR right? The name mevio is not sticking with me. I never liked podcast either as it associates with iPod which I don’t have or want, but at least it rings with broadcast. Say mevio 10 times and say podcast 10 times. Mevio starts getting slurred. Podcast is sharp and crisp. “Go get my mevio” someone said. “Go get my podcast” someone said. The person who heard “mevio” isn’t sure what to do, wondering what’s a “me” and what’s a “vio”. The other person knew exactly what to do. Someone should pick something better. And it looks like the website requires Flash. Flash is annoying. I don’t use it. I avoid websites who do. Stick with WMA which every Windows computer can play. Podshow is a good name but the site has flaws. First, I don’t want to download THEIR player, I want a simple WMA file. When I figure out where to get the WMA, half the time it’s an old show. What works is when the link to download is on the Dvorak page now. Tell ya what, I’ll buy “Podshow.com” for a song and dance when they realize they need to do something else, yea, that’s the ticket, when they realize how it’s a failed model and don’t want it, I’ll buy it and post the song and dance number on your MEVIA website or was that MOVIA or MUVIO or MAVIA or MYVIU or MEROFL, oh that’s right it’s MOOVOVR right?

]]> By: pjakobs http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-3/#comment-1106033 pjakobs Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:07:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1106033 as this has turned partially into a podshow rant, I can chip in there as well. About two or maybe 2 1/2 years ago, some of the podshow podcasts were among the first I subscribed. Some were great, some were not so great. By now, all but Tips from the Top Floor have been dropped from my podcatcher, mainly because they lost more and more content and added irrelevant advertizing (I couldn't bear stupid godaddy anymore!) The other thing that I just absolutely don't like are those stupid greetings / callouts / plugs. Yes, it is ok to run one per show, but that's only tolerated (at least that's my point on it). I know most podcasters do what they do for free and some do provide great content, so they should have the freedom to do with their format whatever hey think suits best or is most fun. Podshow, however, is a for-profit, so if they run endless ads, either for other companies or for their own programming, they make me pay for content they're getting almost for free by listening to stuff that I don't want to listen to. I call that a broken business model. The Podshow site was broken from day one, I've probably visited it three or four times and never again. I did like the podsafe music idea, but I stopped following it due to the shitty quality of the site (the first iterations didn't even work right on Linux!). Let's face it: Leo Laporte has it right for those of us who care for content. Podshow might be the the larger shop, but they're fucking up big time. pj as this has turned partially into a podshow rant, I can chip in there as well.

About two or maybe 2 1/2 years ago, some of the podshow podcasts were among the first I subscribed. Some were great, some were not so great. By now, all but Tips from the Top Floor have been dropped from my podcatcher, mainly because they lost more and more content and added irrelevant advertizing (I couldn’t bear stupid godaddy anymore!)
The other thing that I just absolutely don’t like are those stupid greetings / callouts / plugs. Yes, it is ok to run one per show, but that’s only tolerated (at least that’s my point on it). I know most podcasters do what they do for free and some do provide great content, so they should have the freedom to do with their format whatever hey think suits best or is most fun. Podshow, however, is a for-profit, so if they run endless ads, either for other companies or for their own programming, they make me pay for content they’re getting almost for free by listening to stuff that I don’t want to listen to. I call that a broken business model.

The Podshow site was broken from day one, I’ve probably visited it three or four times and never again.
I did like the podsafe music idea, but I stopped following it due to the shitty quality of the site (the first iterations didn’t even work right on Linux!).

Let’s face it: Leo Laporte has it right for those of us who care for content. Podshow might be the the larger shop, but they’re fucking up big time.

pj

]]> By: Idiot Posting http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/04/24/podcasting-is-dead-long-live-uhsomething-like-podcasting/comment-page-3/#comment-1105918 Idiot Posting Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:23:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17440#comment-1105918 What the hell is up with this web 2.0 shit!? When did we start numbering the web development process? I was posting BBS text in the late 1980's. So now we have a guy that creates a post exactly like what we veterans were posting years ago and some company comes along and calls it "Collaboration." Roughly twenty years later, this term is all of a sudden popular and people are thinking "ooh yeah that's a fancy important word! oooh collaboration...let's collaborate on our next web page and call it "Web 2.0." It's fancy and uses fancy code and looks pretty! Also, Leo Laporte has the right idea. Audio shows are not "Podcasts" because to the inherently uneducated public, it sounds like you need an IPod to listen to them. Gah stupid people piss me off! Natural Selection does not currently discriminate between partially educated and just plain stupid people. I know. I talk to idiots every day for a living. What the hell is up with this web 2.0 shit!? When did we start numbering the web development process? I was posting BBS text in the late 1980′s. So now we have a guy that creates a post exactly like what we veterans were posting years ago and some company comes along and calls it “Collaboration.” Roughly twenty years later, this term is all of a sudden popular and people are thinking “ooh yeah that’s a fancy important word! oooh collaboration…let’s collaborate on our next web page and call it “Web 2.0.” It’s fancy and uses fancy code and looks pretty! Also, Leo Laporte has the right idea. Audio shows are not “Podcasts” because to the inherently uneducated public, it sounds like you need an IPod to listen to them. Gah stupid people piss me off! Natural Selection does not currently discriminate between partially educated and just plain stupid people. I know. I talk to idiots every day for a living.

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