By SN
Friday April 25, 2008
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Slate – Chris Wilson – April 24, 2008:
Even as Hillary Clinton trails Barack Obama in pledged delegates, the popular vote, and number of states won, she has made it clear that she plans to stay in the race for the nomination. All of which brings me to this logical conclusion: It is time for Barack Obama to drop out.
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Obama drops out next week, stating that although he could almost certainly win the nomination by fighting it out until the convention in August, he is simply not willing to drag the party through a battle that will cripple its chances against John McCain. He then pledges to help support Sen. Clinton in her bid—with full knowledge that she will not take him up on the offer.
In one stroke, Obama will regain his messiah creds by making the ultimate sacrifice for the good of the party. His followers will be furious. The mere mention of Clinton’s name will provoke unspeakable acts. They will abandon Clinton in numbers sufficient to hand McCain the election in November.
McCain will be eminently more beatable in 2012. Demographics will continue to shift in Obama’s favor as his 14- to 17-year-old supporters come of voting age. Anyone foolish enough to challenge Obama for the nomination—and don’t rule out Clinton—will go nowhere. Obama’s utopian vision for a Democratic party unified around him will be complete.
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The jokes on you. Obama’s ahead. This is a ruse. You’ve all swallowed it. Obama wins at the convention, then eats McCain’s lunch.
Ho ho ho. You guys will swallow anything.
Why go into all this weird possibilities of Obama dropping out or Ice Witch dropping out? Georgy-Porgie and Big Dick will create another 9/11 situation and declare a martial law. No matter who wins,Georgy-Porgie and Big Dick will remain in the Bleak House another 12 years. We may as well “get over it!”
Who could possibly have appeared more “beatable” than Bush in 2004? And yet…
I thought obama was still ahead. Whoever gets the nod, I’ll vote for. Their agendas in office are simmilar, and I know I ain’t going republican.
Let’s see . . . one candidate has devoted his entire life to public service and he has fought battle after battle with our enemies and is still standing. Another candidate has come out of nowhere, she has never faced a real opponent, she has fought no battles on our behalf, and she is so conceited as to think that she is somehow qualified to be President.
Obama will never drop out – his massive ego won’t allow it. And he will either lose to John McCain or he will win and become the least-effective President ever. But if he is elected, maybe we will finally learn where he stands on the issues. Right now, nobody knows.
YESSSSSSS
And while he’s at it, he should skip 2012 and 2016 and 2020 and….
#12, pat,
The dems should have fielded decent candidates.
10,000 comedians out of work and you’re trying to be funny. The worst Democratic candidate was better than the best the Republicans fielded.
Neither side’s candidates are worth a bucket of spit. Or some other four letter word beginning with s and ending the t. Like snot.
Dems want bloat government and think Uncle Sam is the savior of the world. And they are afraid to let you know they believe this. Republicans claim to believe in the opposite and don’t want you know they also believe it. What’s left that has a chance of winning? Nada.
When is None of the Above running?
#18 chuck, Al Gore ran and lost, then he became the nominee. Same for Bob Dole and John McCain. John Edwards was a serious contender after losing.
Hillary is now leading in the popular vote by over 100 thousand(http://realclearpolitics.com/ has the breakdown) She will likely pick up some more in West Virginia and Kentucky, and win big in Puerto Rico to end up leading by about half a million or more. She is also the leader in the electoral college vote. So by staying in Barack Obama is asking the delegates to overturn the will of the people in favor of some procedural logistical technical victories that he achieved. I guess that argument worked for George Bush, but at least his victory via the Electoral College was written into the Constitution.
This article makes sense, but then again I wrote that a week ago on this blog.
It doesn’t make as much sense now,since Obama is close to wrapping things up, needing only 300 more delegates. Nevertheless, the calls for Hillary to drop out are silly given her leads, and it is not impossible for her to win 432 out of 630 remaining delegates, but she probably has to get some of Obama’s superdelegates to switch.
I’ve asked this before… Are their ‘odds’ in Las Vegas on this thing?
I wonder what the ‘pros’ think.
I now think it doesn’t matter at all who wins.
This ‘democracy thing’ is all an illusion.
really…
Four years of McCain? And the supreme court moves irrevocably to the right. Bye bye right to choose. Bye bye separation church and state.
@31:
The odds according to Intrade:
Next President of United States:
Obama 47.0%
McCain 40.1%
Hillary 12.9%
Democratic Nominee:
Obama 81.2%
Hillary 18.8%
Democratic Primaries:
North Carolina: Obama 97% chance
Indiana: Hillary 55.5% chance
West Virginia: Hillary 93% chance
Kentucky: Hillary 89% chance
Oregon: Obama 93.7% chance
Montana: Obama 88.7% chance
Puerto Rico: Not listed for trading (Hillary heavily favored).
I expect this to last until June 3. There is a small chance it is “over” on May 6 if Obama wins both Kentucky and Indiana, but I doubt Hillary would drop out so …
The reality: Obama only needs about 75 more superdelegate committments, barring a total collapse or major scandal.
With 300 left, unless he does something exceptionally stupid or has a giant skeleton in his closet, the unofficial word is that he about 50 unofficially committed super delegates by members of the House and Senate.
Kind of difficult to imagine him not getting 20 more.
“McCain will be eminently more beatable in 2012.” – So how is is McCain going to be in 2012??? 500 years old??
Who doesn’t think Obama has some skeletons in the closet? The guy was in the famously filthy Illinois legislature for years, representing Chicago’s slum dwellers. Hillary (the bitch) can’t say a word in public, but her wily husband can open up the can and give the superdelegates a nosefull when he wants to.
My feeling is that this will be Hillary’s only kick at the can, while clearly Obama is young enough and full of enough potential that he will have the horses to run again. But he can’t be perceived and possibly labeled as a quitter, for any reason.
So I believe Obama will ultimately be the Dem candidate but will lose to McCain who, with his pal the former Dem VP candidate, has managed to claim enough of the middle political spectrum.
Obama has the big inspiring “I have a dream” thing going for him but not knowing exactly what this really means will frighten off enough voters, especially in war time. I think in these uncertain and increasingly anxious years, enough voters will not be in a mood to experiment or gamble or ride on faith and they will seek relative safety, such as it may be.
But, as I have written before, if Hillary could somehow manage to run as the Dem VP candidate, the VP has historically been seen as a natural stepping stone to the Presidency.
More significant, an Obama/Clinton team would be so historic, so re-energizing that I think it likely would sweep McCain away; or at least certainly carry the day. This seems so obvious to me that I have to think the dream-ticket naysayers, like Pelosi, are just part of the orchestrated act. But if in fact the super-sized egos involved are not able to pull such a ticket together then the whole bunch of them should be damned to hell. And they, along with Dems everywhere, will have to live with Opportunity lost.
fwiw,
RBG
toast
This is the kind of crap I would expect from Fox News! They’ve been playing at this all through the primaries. When Hillary was leading the polls, experts would tell us why she can’t or shouldn’t win. Later when Obama’s ahead they tell us why he can’t or shouldn’t win. Painfully obvious.
#6
You will never see that in this form of government.
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