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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Messiah&#8221; of New Mexico Doomsday Cult Arrested as Sex Offender</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Brohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Brohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do these guys come from, proliferate from.  It is obvious that anyone who says they are a Messiah is going to be crucified, that is what the whole Messiah story is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do these guys come from, proliferate from.  It is obvious that anyone who says they are a Messiah is going to be crucified, that is what the whole Messiah story is about.</p>
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		<title>By: grasshopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>grasshopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another nut on the loose. Using mindless women and children as their own sex toys. This is the result of &quot;Religion&quot; in general. There is no god there never was a god and there never will be a god. Wake up people. This only goes to show you the ignorance of people. Total ignorant. The bible is a book of bullshit. Put this sucker and his son away for a long long time, and when you do castrate the bastards as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another nut on the loose. Using mindless women and children as their own sex toys. This is the result of &#8220;Religion&#8221; in general. There is no god there never was a god and there never will be a god. Wake up people. This only goes to show you the ignorance of people. Total ignorant. The bible is a book of bullshit. Put this sucker and his son away for a long long time, and when you do castrate the bastards as well.</p>
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		<title>By: chaplaw49</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaplaw49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Kwahada Comanche and our traditional and spiritual homelands cover the Clayton, NM area.  Our &quot;apocalypse&quot; went down in 1876 when Col. McKenzie and his U.S. Cavalry troops killed our buffalo off and slaughtered our horses and burned our teepees at the bottom of Palo Duro Canyon.  Should have left us there along with the buffalo and the ecological system now deteriorated would have been better off and not home to the religious nuts. Why is it that no whiteman messiah gets it that my Kwahada People already went through our own apocalyse and we survived but in a different form? You might say we Kwahada are &quot;True People of the First Apocalypse&quot; and our &quot;end of the world&quot; was perpetrated by bible thumping Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Kwahada Comanche and our traditional and spiritual homelands cover the Clayton, NM area.  Our &#8220;apocalypse&#8221; went down in 1876 when Col. McKenzie and his U.S. Cavalry troops killed our buffalo off and slaughtered our horses and burned our teepees at the bottom of Palo Duro Canyon.  Should have left us there along with the buffalo and the ecological system now deteriorated would have been better off and not home to the religious nuts. Why is it that no whiteman messiah gets it that my Kwahada People already went through our own apocalyse and we survived but in a different form? You might say we Kwahada are &#8220;True People of the First Apocalypse&#8221; and our &#8220;end of the world&#8221; was perpetrated by bible thumping Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Gawd Almighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Gawd Almighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18, Sister,

&lt;i&gt;Did you mean Don King or Martin Luther King? &lt;/i&gt;

I think it might have been more of a B.B. style of King. Of course, we could be so very off course and he meant Billie Jean. It would be a hoot if the guy is just so mentally phuked that he was talking about his Lordship, King Crimson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18, Sister,</p>
<p><i>Did you mean Don King or Martin Luther King? </i></p>
<p>I think it might have been more of a B.B. style of King. Of course, we could be so very off course and he meant Billie Jean. It would be a hoot if the guy is just so mentally phuked that he was talking about his Lordship, King Crimson.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;There is no god, Dnieper. Get some dignity.

Aw, Julie.  I have God, and I have dignity.  Deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;There is no god, Dnieper. Get some dignity.</p>
<p>Aw, Julie.  I have God, and I have dignity.  Deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle  Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle  Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>julieb &lt;i&gt;I don’t think religion is to blame here. &lt;/i&gt;

In this case I&#039;d be inclined to agree with Bobbo that religion, or more accurately, religion and power, are too blame.  It is all too easy to get drawn into the power of religion and to let that corrupt you.  

Indeed, much of the reason why churches formed in the first place was to create a system of checks and balances to stop individuals from becoming too wrapped up their own power.  I am not saying this system has always worked, but that was a big part of the drive to create a centralised church and a standardised orthodoxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>julieb <i>I don’t think religion is to blame here. </i></p>
<p>In this case I&#8217;d be inclined to agree with Bobbo that religion, or more accurately, religion and power, are too blame.  It is all too easy to get drawn into the power of religion and to let that corrupt you.  </p>
<p>Indeed, much of the reason why churches formed in the first place was to create a system of checks and balances to stop individuals from becoming too wrapped up their own power.  I am not saying this system has always worked, but that was a big part of the drive to create a centralised church and a standardised orthodoxy.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22--Cursor==you have the germ/gem of an idea but then take it way too far--on purpose I presume?

While individuals have the ultimate responsibility for decisions made, other &quot;things&quot; like religion, government, corporations certain have an enfluence, and given the mix of enfluence and susceptibility, to avoid the issue altogether and look only at the individual is to miss the conflict.

Its like saying the voters deserve the Congress we have and ignoring the role of money, power, and corruption.  Something as complex as human decision making in a group context is not any one thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22&#8211;Cursor==you have the germ/gem of an idea but then take it way too far&#8211;on purpose I presume?</p>
<p>While individuals have the ultimate responsibility for decisions made, other &#8220;things&#8221; like religion, government, corporations certain have an enfluence, and given the mix of enfluence and susceptibility, to avoid the issue altogether and look only at the individual is to miss the conflict.</p>
<p>Its like saying the voters deserve the Congress we have and ignoring the role of money, power, and corruption.  Something as complex as human decision making in a group context is not any one thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cursor_</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cursor_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21

Religion is never to blame.
Neither are governments.
Neither are corporations.

Nor any THING.

In the end we are all the final arbiters in our lives. If we allow a religion to do us over WE allowed it. We want it to stop, then stop.

People like to blame THINGS because it means the pressure of resposibility is removed and they can use the old phrase &quot;NOT ME&quot;.

Humanity is responsible for all tragedy and all glory that befalls or uplifts humanity.

Cursor_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21</p>
<p>Religion is never to blame.<br />
Neither are governments.<br />
Neither are corporations.</p>
<p>Nor any THING.</p>
<p>In the end we are all the final arbiters in our lives. If we allow a religion to do us over WE allowed it. We want it to stop, then stop.</p>
<p>People like to blame THINGS because it means the pressure of resposibility is removed and they can use the old phrase &#8220;NOT ME&#8221;.</p>
<p>Humanity is responsible for all tragedy and all glory that befalls or uplifts humanity.</p>
<p>Cursor_</p>
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		<title>By: julieb</title>
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		<dc:creator>julieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 03:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think religion is to blame here. This loser just happens to be the leader of a cult and is taking advantage of his power over people. If he was an employer he would be trying this to his employees without the religious context.

The thing I have a problem with is retarded comments like Dnieper said in #17. Sometimes losers like to use these stories to push there lame ass religion on other people.

&quot;Fear of the Lord is the begining of wisdom&quot; -Dnieper 

An utterly pathetic and shameful comment.

There is no god, Dnieper. Get some dignity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think religion is to blame here. This loser just happens to be the leader of a cult and is taking advantage of his power over people. If he was an employer he would be trying this to his employees without the religious context.</p>
<p>The thing I have a problem with is retarded comments like Dnieper said in #17. Sometimes losers like to use these stories to push there lame ass religion on other people.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fear of the Lord is the begining of wisdom&#8221; -Dnieper </p>
<p>An utterly pathetic and shameful comment.</p>
<p>There is no god, Dnieper. Get some dignity.</p>
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		<title>By: gadlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>gadlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 03:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He looks like Michael Palin from Monty Python dressed up and ready to run toward the camera at the beginning of the show to say &quot;It&#039;s &quot;  (Monty Python&#039;s Flying Circus!)  .   But he&#039;s just another Pervy bast@@# who&#039;s happily under arrest now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He looks like Michael Palin from Monty Python dressed up and ready to run toward the camera at the beginning of the show to say &#8220;It&#8217;s &#8221;  (Monty Python&#8217;s Flying Circus!)  .   But he&#8217;s just another Pervy bast@@# who&#8217;s happily under arrest now.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex offenses are mostly about the abuse of power ((as in power corrupts?)).  Religion is ALL ABOUT POWER.  And so those with the power tend to go mad over time.  The go mad in all the areas you can go mad about==money, sex, having the  final word, end of days, requiring worship.

Just like god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex offenses are mostly about the abuse of power ((as in power corrupts?)).  Religion is ALL ABOUT POWER.  And so those with the power tend to go mad over time.  The go mad in all the areas you can go mad about==money, sex, having the  final word, end of days, requiring worship.</p>
<p>Just like god.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Mary Hand Grenade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Mary Hand Grenade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it about religion and sex offenders?   

#17 - Did you mean Don King or Martin Luther King?  Why fear the Lord when there are plenty other religious folks to fear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it about religion and sex offenders?   </p>
<p>#17 &#8211; Did you mean Don King or Martin Luther King?  Why fear the Lord when there are plenty other religious folks to fear?</p>
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		<title>By: Dnieper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dnieper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the King comes back every eye will see Him. Men like this are not nothing more than Satan&#039;s plot agaisnt men&#039;s souls. Becareful what you believe. Fear of the Lord is the begining of wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the King comes back every eye will see Him. Men like this are not nothing more than Satan&#8217;s plot agaisnt men&#8217;s souls. Becareful what you believe. Fear of the Lord is the begining of wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: bh28630</title>
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		<dc:creator>bh28630</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eustice Mullins credible?  Check the definition of crackpot.</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. Gawd Almighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Gawd Almighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13, Andy,

&lt;i&gt;cult messiahs (like this guy, and rush limbaugh) are like toilet paper &lt;/i&gt;

I disagree. Toilet paper has a useful function in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13, Andy,</p>
<p><i>cult messiahs (like this guy, and rush limbaugh) are like toilet paper </i></p>
<p>I disagree. Toilet paper has a useful function in society.</p>
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