<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t mind my cow&#8217;s farts. She might have solved our fuel crisis.</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/</link>
	<description>General interest observations and true web-log.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:40:01 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: marvel goose</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1212549</link>
		<dc:creator>marvel goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1212549</guid>
		<description>In other stories on this subject, JC Bell points specifically to waste product from lumber production.  

A wood lot can generate mountains of sawdust.  I can remember riding in the backseat at night passing the wood lots along US 84 in South Georgia and seeing the huge pyramid shaped incenerators burning the sawdust.

At some wood yards, they would use the heat to boil water to power turbines for electricity to power the saws.  Other yards just burned it to get it out of the way.

As for the carbon footprinters out there, the system is closed cycle. Pulpwood pine tree absorbs light Co2 and water and creates biomass. We turn biomass into fuel.  Burn fuel, release CO2 and repeat.

No cows were injured in the production of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other stories on this subject, JC Bell points specifically to waste product from lumber production.  </p>
<p>A wood lot can generate mountains of sawdust.  I can remember riding in the backseat at night passing the wood lots along US 84 in South Georgia and seeing the huge pyramid shaped incenerators burning the sawdust.</p>
<p>At some wood yards, they would use the heat to boil water to power turbines for electricity to power the saws.  Other yards just burned it to get it out of the way.</p>
<p>As for the carbon footprinters out there, the system is closed cycle. Pulpwood pine tree absorbs light Co2 and water and creates biomass. We turn biomass into fuel.  Burn fuel, release CO2 and repeat.</p>
<p>No cows were injured in the production of this post.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: becagle</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1160095</link>
		<dc:creator>becagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1160095</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ll tell you, with all the BBQ beans I had this weekend, I could give that cow a run for his money.  Stand back and don&#039;t pull my finger...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you, with all the BBQ beans I had this weekend, I could give that cow a run for his money.  Stand back and don&#8217;t pull my finger&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: the answer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1159882</link>
		<dc:creator>the answer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1159882</guid>
		<description>Didn&#039;t they do this in mad max? Yeah it was pigs, but I bet a cow&#039;s fart could be just as potent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t they do this in mad max? Yeah it was pigs, but I bet a cow&#8217;s fart could be just as potent</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DrJay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1159631</link>
		<dc:creator>DrJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1159631</guid>
		<description>When the mastermind behind the plan says &quot;That stink is methane&quot; it should set off a few alarm bells.  I thought the fact that methane was odorless was common knowledge.  The smell commonly associated with methane is mercaptan which is a byproduct of animal digestion and also happens to be added to petrochemically derived methane so that end users can detect leaks.  You can wikipedia it if you don&#039;t believe me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the mastermind behind the plan says &#8220;That stink is methane&#8221; it should set off a few alarm bells.  I thought the fact that methane was odorless was common knowledge.  The smell commonly associated with methane is mercaptan which is a byproduct of animal digestion and also happens to be added to petrochemically derived methane so that end users can detect leaks.  You can wikipedia it if you don&#8217;t believe me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1159613</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1159613</guid>
		<description>To the dude that didn&#039;t know it this is biofuel. 

The problem with biofuel is it reduces food production and it removes organic matter from fields which needs to be there for many reasons. 

Even a thousand years back this kind of crap was known to encourage soil erosion, reduce water retention which made the land dry out worse, and reduce long range productivety of the land for several differnt reasons.

That so many modern people don&#039;t know what was once common knowledge doesn&#039;t say much for humans. 

Of course many people did it anyway which is why many lands which were once bountiful and held powerful civilizations now don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the dude that didn&#8217;t know it this is biofuel. </p>
<p>The problem with biofuel is it reduces food production and it removes organic matter from fields which needs to be there for many reasons. </p>
<p>Even a thousand years back this kind of crap was known to encourage soil erosion, reduce water retention which made the land dry out worse, and reduce long range productivety of the land for several differnt reasons.</p>
<p>That so many modern people don&#8217;t know what was once common knowledge doesn&#8217;t say much for humans. </p>
<p>Of course many people did it anyway which is why many lands which were once bountiful and held powerful civilizations now don&#8217;t.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mister Ketchup</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1158239</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Ketchup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 01:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1158239</guid>
		<description>#23 - He never stopped working for big oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 &#8211; He never stopped working for big oil.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lou</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1158218</link>
		<dc:creator>lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 01:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1158218</guid>
		<description>I never saw a price on the barrel.
Sounds better than corn fuel.
Cheney will put an end to it though, when he goes back to work for big oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw a price on the barrel.<br />
Sounds better than corn fuel.<br />
Cheney will put an end to it though, when he goes back to work for big oil.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mister Ketchup</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1158179</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Ketchup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1158179</guid>
		<description>&quot;[Ed. Personal attacks on other bloggers without topic contribution is a violation of posting guidelines.]&quot;

So, personal attacks on other users are OK as long as there is topic contribution?  Inquiring minds...  :)

#13 - The problem with horses was what to do with the horse shit.  I was thinking perhaps we could feed it to cigar smokers as breath freshener.

Also, where the fuck is the sense of humor around here?  These aren&#039;t personal attacks.  We aren&#039;t that thin skinned are we?   This is the Internet FFS.

&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;[There&#039;s a difference between making a clever retort and being an asshole. - ed.]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[Ed. Personal attacks on other bloggers without topic contribution is a violation of posting guidelines.]&#8221;</p>
<p>So, personal attacks on other users are OK as long as there is topic contribution?  Inquiring minds&#8230;  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>#13 &#8211; The problem with horses was what to do with the horse shit.  I was thinking perhaps we could feed it to cigar smokers as breath freshener.</p>
<p>Also, where the fuck is the sense of humor around here?  These aren&#8217;t personal attacks.  We aren&#8217;t that thin skinned are we?   This is the Internet FFS.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica"><i><b>[There's a difference between making a clever retort and being an asshole. - ed.]</b></i></span></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-2/#comment-1158077</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1158077</guid>
		<description>Anyway, back to the topic....

I wonder if this technology will scale? Bobbo makes a good point about this but I suspect that those plants are prototypes.

I also wonder about the ecological impact. Would I want one of those plants in my neighborhood? What are the by-products? Would it smell like wrong end of a horse? I am not really qualified to judge that but someone around here may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, back to the topic&#8230;.</p>
<p>I wonder if this technology will scale? Bobbo makes a good point about this but I suspect that those plants are prototypes.</p>
<p>I also wonder about the ecological impact. Would I want one of those plants in my neighborhood? What are the by-products? Would it smell like wrong end of a horse? I am not really qualified to judge that but someone around here may be.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mister Ketchup</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1157794</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Ketchup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1157794</guid>
		<description>

&lt;b&gt;[Ed. Personal attacks on other bloggers without topic contribution is a violation of posting guidelines.]&lt;/b&gt;


</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>[Ed. Personal attacks on other bloggers without topic contribution is a violation of posting guidelines.]</b></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1157768</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1157768</guid>
		<description>#17 - Yes, this IS more intelligent than biofuels.  Until the midwestern farmers get some kind of subsidy for cow flatus though, don&#039;t look for it to attain any kind of mainstream popularity.

&gt;&gt;[Comment deleted - Violation of  
&gt;&gt;Posting Guidelines. - ed.]

Ketchup, you really need to grow the fuck up.   You&#039;re giving a bad name to condiments.  Can&#039;t you post anything without it being so puerile that Ed. deletes it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 &#8211; Yes, this IS more intelligent than biofuels.  Until the midwestern farmers get some kind of subsidy for cow flatus though, don&#8217;t look for it to attain any kind of mainstream popularity.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;[Comment deleted - Violation of<br />
&gt;&gt;Posting Guidelines. - ed.]</p>
<p>Ketchup, you really need to grow the fuck up.   You&#8217;re giving a bad name to condiments.  Can&#8217;t you post anything without it being so puerile that Ed. deletes it?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1157563</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1157563</guid>
		<description>What does Ventner contribute?

He should work on getting chlorplasts into skin cells so we could all manufacture our own basic carbon chains?  Might take some other minor biological modifications==shouldn&#039;t be any big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Ventner contribute?</p>
<p>He should work on getting chlorplasts into skin cells so we could all manufacture our own basic carbon chains?  Might take some other minor biological modifications==shouldn&#8217;t be any big deal.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1157533</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1157533</guid>
		<description>OK, at least this is more intelligent than biofuels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, at least this is more intelligent than biofuels.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bh28630</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1157496</link>
		<dc:creator>bh28630</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1157496</guid>
		<description>moss said:

&quot;Google Craig Ventner and...&quot;

While the trigger topic was cows, stretch to horses and say don&#039;t bet it all on one.  

There are more than a few potential alternative energy sources as well as wealth of practical conservation methods.  Combined with creativity and capitalism, America should be able to employ many diverse approaches to solve the &#039;energy crisis&#039;.  The challenge is to get people to grasp the government can&#039;t do it.  Stop looking to the administration, the Senate and the House 
for a popular political panacea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moss said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Google Craig Ventner and&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>While the trigger topic was cows, stretch to horses and say don&#8217;t bet it all on one.  </p>
<p>There are more than a few potential alternative energy sources as well as wealth of practical conservation methods.  Combined with creativity and capitalism, America should be able to employ many diverse approaches to solve the &#8216;energy crisis&#8217;.  The challenge is to get people to grasp the government can&#8217;t do it.  Stop looking to the administration, the Senate and the House<br />
for a popular political panacea.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: HMeyers</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/05/26/dont-mind-my-cows-farts-she-might-have-solved-our-fuel-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1157384</link>
		<dc:creator>HMeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18077#comment-1157384</guid>
		<description>Hey, I found the perfect algorithm:

1) Ride cow to work
2) Cow serves as &quot;packed lunch&quot;
3) Eat cow for lunch
4) Cow skin is tomorrow&#039;s work clothes and boots
5) Jog home = get some exercise
6) Next cow eats grass, saves on lawn mower expense
7) Cow dung serves as furnace fuel; no home heating oil required.
8) Repeat!

Perfect cow-centric economy!  Economic boon!  And advantage over desert countries that just can&#039;t compete with our superior cow-oriented infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I found the perfect algorithm:</p>
<p>1) Ride cow to work<br />
2) Cow serves as &#8220;packed lunch&#8221;<br />
3) Eat cow for lunch<br />
4) Cow skin is tomorrow&#8217;s work clothes and boots<br />
5) Jog home = get some exercise<br />
6) Next cow eats grass, saves on lawn mower expense<br />
7) Cow dung serves as furnace fuel; no home heating oil required.<br />
 <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Repeat!</p>
<p>Perfect cow-centric economy!  Economic boon!  And advantage over desert countries that just can&#8217;t compete with our superior cow-oriented infrastructure.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

