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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1182214</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#68 - Ketchup,

Don&#039;t bother. Don&#039;t you recognize word soup when you see it? It&#039;s probably a cut and paste from a spam message.

Pedro, (multiple posts)

You should learn to use google. You should also learn how to copy and paste a link. You see, as many have already stated, abso-fucking-lutely no one will ever google what you tell them to.

I promise from my own blog (where I can see what links have been clicked) that it&#039;s hard enough to get people to click through a link that you post. You will not get anyone to do your searching for you.

If you have a point to make or think you have some great source of information, try posting the damn link!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#68 &#8211; Ketchup,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother. Don&#8217;t you recognize word soup when you see it? It&#8217;s probably a cut and paste from a spam message.</p>
<p>Pedro, (multiple posts)</p>
<p>You should learn to use google. You should also learn how to copy and paste a link. You see, as many have already stated, abso-fucking-lutely no one will ever google what you tell them to.</p>
<p>I promise from my own blog (where I can see what links have been clicked) that it&#8217;s hard enough to get people to click through a link that you post. You will not get anyone to do your searching for you.</p>
<p>If you have a point to make or think you have some great source of information, try posting the damn link!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Ketchup</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181328</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Ketchup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#67 - Mustard, stand by.  I&#039;m going to drop some acid and read it again to see if that helps me understand it.  If that fails I&#039;ll find a blonde and ask her to decipher.  I love tuna and all but, WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#67 &#8211; Mustard, stand by.  I&#8217;m going to drop some acid and read it again to see if that helps me understand it.  If that fails I&#8217;ll find a blonde and ask her to decipher.  I love tuna and all but, WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181276</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;In my view, unwillingness to find info 
&gt;&gt;is being lazy. 

Pete, I&#039;ve spent countless hours trying to &quot;find info&quot; regarding what the fuck &quot;&lt;i&gt;I’ve ben doing him tuna sandwichs to see if, after all those things, he grants you a spot in the Mission Miracle that he has and sent you to cuba for some eye surgery. &lt;/i&gt;&quot; means, to  no avail.

Pretty please with sugar on top, tell us what it means!  The Great Mystery of dvorak dot org slash blog!  &quot;&lt;i&gt;I’ve ben doing him tuna sandwichs to see if, after all those things, he grants you a spot in the Mission Miracle that he has and sent you to cuba for some eye surgery. &lt;/i&gt;!!  Zounds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;In my view, unwillingness to find info<br />
&gt;&gt;is being lazy. </p>
<p>Pete, I&#8217;ve spent countless hours trying to &#8220;find info&#8221; regarding what the fuck &#8220;<i>I’ve ben doing him tuna sandwichs to see if, after all those things, he grants you a spot in the Mission Miracle that he has and sent you to cuba for some eye surgery. </i>&#8221; means, to  no avail.</p>
<p>Pretty please with sugar on top, tell us what it means!  The Great Mystery of dvorak dot org slash blog!  &#8220;<i>I’ve ben doing him tuna sandwichs to see if, after all those things, he grants you a spot in the Mission Miracle that he has and sent you to cuba for some eye surgery. </i>!!  Zounds!</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181267</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Google: barack obama flip flopping

Been there, done that.  Just a bunch of right wingnut trash talk.  Not even up to the standards of Michelle Malkin, Anal Cyst Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter.  Rabid dogs, donning their white sheets and looking to hang a darkie.

They&#039;d burn a cross on his lawn, but they&#039;re not allowed to use matches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Google: barack obama flip flopping</p>
<p>Been there, done that.  Just a bunch of right wingnut trash talk.  Not even up to the standards of Michelle Malkin, Anal Cyst Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter.  Rabid dogs, donning their white sheets and looking to hang a darkie.</p>
<p>They&#8217;d burn a cross on his lawn, but they&#8217;re not allowed to use matches.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181251</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#61, ten  years ago all of those things were happening.  Rendition didn&#039;t start with George Bush.  The Clipper chip was suggested by Al Gore, and Janet Reno was on board.  The left got all angry about the expansion of wiretapping authority.  Bill Clinton went to war with Iraq because of WMD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#61, ten  years ago all of those things were happening.  Rendition didn&#8217;t start with George Bush.  The Clipper chip was suggested by Al Gore, and Janet Reno was on board.  The left got all angry about the expansion of wiretapping authority.  Bill Clinton went to war with Iraq because of WMD.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181249</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;(MM since I’m sure you won’t get the name)

Oh no.  Of course.  I never heard of the Beatles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;(MM since I’m sure you won’t get the name)</p>
<p>Oh no.  Of course.  I never heard of the Beatles.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181247</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#62 This is not academic papers we&#039;re talking about. Is readily available information that the poster has chosen to ignore. On top of that, the poster is known to discredit everything that doesn&#039;t fit his views.

This are people that need to be convinced by themselves, a huge task since they&#039;re willing to lie to themselves in order to keep believing what they do. No ammount of facts will make them see.

They were given directions were to find the info. They should follow those directions instead of complaining.

In my view, unwillingness to find info is being lazy. This is not a classroom. If you want to opine, get informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#62 This is not academic papers we&#8217;re talking about. Is readily available information that the poster has chosen to ignore. On top of that, the poster is known to discredit everything that doesn&#8217;t fit his views.</p>
<p>This are people that need to be convinced by themselves, a huge task since they&#8217;re willing to lie to themselves in order to keep believing what they do. No ammount of facts will make them see.</p>
<p>They were given directions were to find the info. They should follow those directions instead of complaining.</p>
<p>In my view, unwillingness to find info is being lazy. This is not a classroom. If you want to opine, get informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Gawd Almighty</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181231</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Gawd Almighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60, pedro,

&lt;i&gt;When will you ever learn to use The Google??? While you’re at it, learn to undersatnd [sic] the written word. &lt;/i&gt;

It is not incumbent upon the reader to investigate or decipher what the writer has written. It is up to the writer to express his thoughts in as clear a manner as possible. 

Telling your reader to “use The Google” is as lazy and wrong as they come. You made the comment. You provide the reference or citation. I know of no one who would spend time trying to prove a point they disagree with. 

And what the fuck does that comment mean? I understand English is not your first language and generally try to give you some slack on that point. But, ... 

&lt;i&gt;#28 I’ve ben doing him tuna sandwichs to see if, after all those things, he grants you a spot in the Mission Miracle that he has and sent you to cuba for some eye surgery. &lt;/i&gt; 

is totally incomprehensible. Please, either explain or rephrase it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60, pedro,</p>
<p><i>When will you ever learn to use The Google??? While you’re at it, learn to undersatnd [sic] the written word. </i></p>
<p>It is not incumbent upon the reader to investigate or decipher what the writer has written. It is up to the writer to express his thoughts in as clear a manner as possible. </p>
<p>Telling your reader to “use The Google” is as lazy and wrong as they come. You made the comment. You provide the reference or citation. I know of no one who would spend time trying to prove a point they disagree with. </p>
<p>And what the fuck does that comment mean? I understand English is not your first language and generally try to give you some slack on that point. But, &#8230; </p>
<p><i>#28 I’ve ben doing him tuna sandwichs to see if, after all those things, he grants you a spot in the Mission Miracle that he has and sent you to cuba for some eye surgery. </i> </p>
<p>is totally incomprehensible. Please, either explain or rephrase it.</p>
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		<title>By: gregallen</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-4/#comment-1181200</link>
		<dc:creator>gregallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; 200 years ago, we might have considered staging a revolution.

Even just ten years ago, all good Americans would have been HORRIFIED at the thought of our country &quot;disappearing&quot; people, having secret torture prisons, secret unaccountable wiretapping of our own citizens, lying to start a war, etc. etc.

I want to believe that _good_ Americans are still against it and won&#039;t stand for it. But are they such a minority?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; 200 years ago, we might have considered staging a revolution.</p>
<p>Even just ten years ago, all good Americans would have been HORRIFIED at the thought of our country &#8220;disappearing&#8221; people, having secret torture prisons, secret unaccountable wiretapping of our own citizens, lying to start a war, etc. etc.</p>
<p>I want to believe that _good_ Americans are still against it and won&#8217;t stand for it. But are they such a minority?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-3/#comment-1181057</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mean old Man (MM since I&#039;m sure you won&#039;t get the name), use those same excellent flip-flopping techniques of yours to keep hiding reality.

What is most pathetic of you is not your effort to try to dismiss Obama&#039;s faults by enhancing MaCain&#039;s, it&#039;s your total blind defense of that that has none.

When will you ever learn to use The Google??? While you&#039;re at it, learn to undersatnd the written word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mean old Man (MM since I&#8217;m sure you won&#8217;t get the name), use those same excellent flip-flopping techniques of yours to keep hiding reality.</p>
<p>What is most pathetic of you is not your effort to try to dismiss Obama&#8217;s faults by enhancing MaCain&#8217;s, it&#8217;s your total blind defense of that that has none.</p>
<p>When will you ever learn to use The Google??? While you&#8217;re at it, learn to undersatnd the written word.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-3/#comment-1180950</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion has nothing to do with McCain alone.  It has nothing to do with Obama alone.

It has everything to do with McCain AND Obama together and why the msm seems to think they are our best choices.  Both are pandering lip servants to the sound bite.  Anyone who can&#039;t see that is crazy.  Anyone who doesn&#039;t take the time to do some of their own research deserves another four years of the same.

I will not be voting for either one of them.  That way, when things don&#039;t change I can look the complainer in the eye and ask, &quot;So why did you vote for McCain/Obama?&quot;

And for those who want the proof that Obama is just as much a flopper as McCain:

Google: barack obama flip flopping</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion has nothing to do with McCain alone.  It has nothing to do with Obama alone.</p>
<p>It has everything to do with McCain AND Obama together and why the msm seems to think they are our best choices.  Both are pandering lip servants to the sound bite.  Anyone who can&#8217;t see that is crazy.  Anyone who doesn&#8217;t take the time to do some of their own research deserves another four years of the same.</p>
<p>I will not be voting for either one of them.  That way, when things don&#8217;t change I can look the complainer in the eye and ask, &#8220;So why did you vote for McCain/Obama?&#8221;</p>
<p>And for those who want the proof that Obama is just as much a flopper as McCain:</p>
<p>Google: barack obama flip flopping</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-3/#comment-1180923</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is basically a 3rd bush presidency, only with extra stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is basically a 3rd bush presidency, only with extra stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-3/#comment-1180522</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain said that most people have no problem with the warrantless wiretaps, &quot;except for the A.C.L.U. and trial lawyers&quot;. I believe that&#039;s an underestimate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain said that most people have no problem with the warrantless wiretaps, &#8220;except for the A.C.L.U. and trial lawyers&#8221;. I believe that&#8217;s an underestimate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-3/#comment-1180354</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I think some Americans actually LIKE that 
&gt;&gt;kind of “folksy” crap.

If that&#039;s true, we deserve what we get.  The smart ones will be emigrating to somewhere else.

What a tragedy that our heritage might be stolen from us by dickwads like this.

200 years ago, we might have considered staging a revolution.  But now our overlords have us captured with warrantless wiretaps, CCTC, and whatever the FBI came up with after the pissed away millions of dollars on &quot;Carnivore&quot;.

This election is it.  If the Repukes win, we&#039;re fucked.  Totally fucked.  We might as well move to Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I think some Americans actually LIKE that<br />
&gt;&gt;kind of “folksy” crap.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s true, we deserve what we get.  The smart ones will be emigrating to somewhere else.</p>
<p>What a tragedy that our heritage might be stolen from us by dickwads like this.</p>
<p>200 years ago, we might have considered staging a revolution.  But now our overlords have us captured with warrantless wiretaps, CCTC, and whatever the FBI came up with after the pissed away millions of dollars on &#8220;Carnivore&#8221;.</p>
<p>This election is it.  If the Repukes win, we&#8217;re fucked.  Totally fucked.  We might as well move to Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/06/mccain-flip-flops-backs-bush-wiretaps/comment-page-3/#comment-1180348</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting  to think these two guys are very similar.  They will act as if they are above politics, and stick to their positions no matter what.  Then they will pander to get votes, and when called on it will get all self-righteous about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting  to think these two guys are very similar.  They will act as if they are above politics, and stick to their positions no matter what.  Then they will pander to get votes, and when called on it will get all self-righteous about it.</p>
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