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	<title>Comments on: Help Keep Windows XP Alive By Helping Microsoft&#8217;s Keep XP Alive Call-in Petition.  Wha?!?</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1183583</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah, let Microsoft go down the tubes with Vista.  Why help a company that has dedicated its life to destroying open standards.   If Microsoft made PC&#039;s, every model would have proprietary ports on the back that change constantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah, let Microsoft go down the tubes with Vista.  Why help a company that has dedicated its life to destroying open standards.   If Microsoft made PC&#8217;s, every model would have proprietary ports on the back that change constantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel N.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1183141</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 Steve S said,
&quot;Many of the smaller application products like ATM’s and Point of Sales Terminals use Windows XP Embedded which does not have an end of life date yet. These devices often are low power fan-less computers that would not work well with the higher CPU requirements that Vista has.&quot;

Thanks for clearing this up for me. I actually work as an engineer for a Sun Microsystems product so I don&#039;t know all the details for those products. I will talk to the engineer tomorrow over the Point of Services machines and ask her if she has heard anything about the future of XP on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 Steve S said,<br />
&#8220;Many of the smaller application products like ATM’s and Point of Sales Terminals use Windows XP Embedded which does not have an end of life date yet. These devices often are low power fan-less computers that would not work well with the higher CPU requirements that Vista has.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing this up for me. I actually work as an engineer for a Sun Microsystems product so I don&#8217;t know all the details for those products. I will talk to the engineer tomorrow over the Point of Services machines and ask her if she has heard anything about the future of XP on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1183016</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 9 Daniel N. said,
&quot;I work for an electronics manufacturing company that builds ATMs and Self Checkouts that both run XP. What is going to happen to them? Are future ATMs going to start running Vista?&quot;

Windows XP will continue to be sold to OEM&#039;s and system builders until Jan 2009.  
See: http://tinyurl.com/v77f

Many of the smaller application products like ATM&#039;s and Point of Sales Terminals use Windows XP Embedded which does not have an end of life date yet.  These devices often are low power fan-less computers that would not work well with the higher CPU requirements that Vista has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 9 Daniel N. said,<br />
&#8220;I work for an electronics manufacturing company that builds ATMs and Self Checkouts that both run XP. What is going to happen to them? Are future ATMs going to start running Vista?&#8221;</p>
<p>Windows XP will continue to be sold to OEM&#8217;s and system builders until Jan 2009.<br />
See: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/v77f" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/v77f' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/v77f</a></p>
<p>Many of the smaller application products like ATM&#8217;s and Point of Sales Terminals use Windows XP Embedded which does not have an end of life date yet.  These devices often are low power fan-less computers that would not work well with the higher CPU requirements that Vista has.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182926</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok,
I dont mind the OS Im running as long as it DOES what I want it to do.
I dont mind upgrading to something BETTER.

Win2000, XP and vista...I am told use the SAME core.  But its not fully compatible with each other?

IF MS made something BETTER, it would be fine.
But, they keep ADDING CRAP to the background, and security AGAINST the user.
If they would fall back to the OLD programming standards, and LOCK UP the OS..I would love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok,<br />
I dont mind the OS Im running as long as it DOES what I want it to do.<br />
I dont mind upgrading to something BETTER.</p>
<p>Win2000, XP and vista&#8230;I am told use the SAME core.  But its not fully compatible with each other?</p>
<p>IF MS made something BETTER, it would be fine.<br />
But, they keep ADDING CRAP to the background, and security AGAINST the user.<br />
If they would fall back to the OLD programming standards, and LOCK UP the OS..I would love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Slatts</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182919</link>
		<dc:creator>Slatts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Ballmer  is talking rubbish - If you want XP you can&#039;t buy it!
I tried to get it on the new HP laptop I went for - they wouldn&#039;t do it. Vista only. 
So guess what - it&#039;s now running Ubuntu :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Ballmer  is talking rubbish &#8211; If you want XP you can&#8217;t buy it!<br />
I tried to get it on the new HP laptop I went for &#8211; they wouldn&#8217;t do it. Vista only.<br />
So guess what &#8211; it&#8217;s now running Ubuntu <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182703</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;If they really want it, why don’t they go 
&gt;&gt;out and buy it now?

Most people don&#039;t &quot;go out and buy&quot; and OS.  They get it on a new computer, then stick with it until the next computer (unless MSFT pulls some monkey business and forces an upgrade).

People (and businesses) want to be able to buy new computers that run XP, not a bloated POS like Vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;If they really want it, why don’t they go<br />
&gt;&gt;out and buy it now?</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t &#8220;go out and buy&#8221; and OS.  They get it on a new computer, then stick with it until the next computer (unless MSFT pulls some monkey business and forces an upgrade).</p>
<p>People (and businesses) want to be able to buy new computers that run XP, not a bloated POS like Vista.</p>
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		<title>By: kanjy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182697</link>
		<dc:creator>kanjy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it.  Why are people so adamant about Microsoft extending sales of XP?  If they really want it, why don&#039;t they go out and buy it now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it.  Why are people so adamant about Microsoft extending sales of XP?  If they really want it, why don&#8217;t they go out and buy it now?</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182671</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Following that logic, we should all go 
&gt;&gt;back to Windows 2000 

wtf?  Are you taking logic classes from Bobbo?  What does my comment about the Commodore 64 have to do with this??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Following that logic, we should all go<br />
&gt;&gt;back to Windows 2000 </p>
<p>wtf?  Are you taking logic classes from Bobbo?  What does my comment about the Commodore 64 have to do with this??</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182645</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 - Following that logic, we should all go back to Windows 2000 and force people to drop 9x-dependent applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 &#8211; Following that logic, we should all go back to Windows 2000 and force people to drop 9x-dependent applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182535</link>
		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 - Mister Mustard

LOL - &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/mediocrity.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;.&lt;/a&gt; Most programmers nowadays don&#039;t &quot;have/want/need to&quot; optimize their code. The hardware cover their incompetence.
&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/mediocrity.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;
&lt;center&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Microsoft Quality™&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 &#8211; Mister Mustard</p>
<p>LOL &#8211; <a href="http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/mediocrity.jpg" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">.</a> Most programmers nowadays don&#8217;t &#8220;have/want/need to&#8221; optimize their code. The hardware cover their incompetence.</p>
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<img src="http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/mediocrity.jpg" alt="" /><br />
<center><strong>Microsoft Quality™</strong></center>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182524</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;It was amazing how much the programmers 
&gt;&gt;squeezed out of the hardware on that machine.

That&#039;s because the bloatware programmers at Microsoft didn&#039;t have anything to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;It was amazing how much the programmers<br />
&gt;&gt;squeezed out of the hardware on that machine.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the bloatware programmers at Microsoft didn&#8217;t have anything to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182514</link>
		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 - Daniel N. - &lt;i&gt;Are future ATMs going to start running Vista?&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps time to switch to Linux?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 &#8211; Daniel N. &#8211; <i>Are future ATMs going to start running Vista?</i></p>
<p>Perhaps time to switch to Linux?</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182513</link>
		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8 - Mister Ketchup - &lt;i&gt;It is hard to find XP in a store.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/c8_Software-Operating-Systems_10288_Technology_10101_10912_Business_Supplies_1_10101_10051_Software&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Staples has it.&lt;/a&gt; They don&#039;t list it on their website, but they sell XP Professional as well... or at least did when I bought mine two months ago (in store).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 &#8211; Mister Ketchup &#8211; <i>It is hard to find XP in a store.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/c8_Software-Operating-Systems_10288_Technology_10101_10912_Business_Supplies_1_10101_10051_Software" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Staples has it.</a> They don&#8217;t list it on their website, but they sell XP Professional as well&#8230; or at least did when I bought mine two months ago (in store).</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel N.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/08/help-keep-windows-xp-alive-by-helping-microsofts-keep-xp-alive-call-in-petition-wha/comment-page-1/#comment-1182501</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so according to Microsoft&#039;s website the current plan is stop selling XP on June 30th(this includes sells to PC vendors such as Dell, etc.). Well here is my question. I work for an electronics manufacturing company that builds ATMs and Self Checkouts that both run XP. What is going to happen to them? Are future ATMs going to start running Vista?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so according to Microsoft&#8217;s website the current plan is stop selling XP on June 30th(this includes sells to PC vendors such as Dell, etc.). Well here is my question. I work for an electronics manufacturing company that builds ATMs and Self Checkouts that both run XP. What is going to happen to them? Are future ATMs going to start running Vista?</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Ketchup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Ketchup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard to find XP in a store.  I wanted to run it under VMware Fusion on my Apple and all I can find is that Vista shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to find XP in a store.  I wanted to run it under VMware Fusion on my Apple and all I can find is that Vista shit.</p>
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