Rep. Kucinich introduces Bush impeachment resolution – washingtonpost.com
WASHINGTON — Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a former Democratic presidential contender, said Monday he wants the House to consider a resolution to impeach President Bush. Speaker Nancy Pelosi consistently has said impeachment was “off the table.”
Kucinich, D-Ohio, read his proposed impeachment language in a floor speech. He contended Bush deceived the nation and violated his oath of office in leading the country into the Iraq war. Kucinich introduced a resolution last year to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney. That resolution was killed, but only after Republicans initially voted in favor of taking up the measure to force a debate. Kucinich won 50 percent of the vote in a five-way House Democratic primary in March, beating back critics who said he ignored business at home to travel the country in his quest to be president.
Our tolerance for corruption has certainly changed since Nixon’s, and then Clinton’s Presidency. Or, do you think back room deals were made?
#138 – Paddy
“Umm, wrong. They are designed to detonate immediately. They aren’t land mines. There is no “initiating bomb”. There is a shell that opens thus dropping many smaller bombs onto the target.
Please engage brain before posting.
I guess you’re not up on your warfare technology. When cluster bombs are dropped, some of the “bomblets” explode immediately. Many do not, and lie scattered around the landscape, looking like kiddy toys, waiting for some young innocent to pick them up and be blown to bits or horribly disfigured.
Google it. You’ll see.
#141 “I guess you’re not up on your warfare technology. Google it. You’ll see.”
Go visit China Lake and then get back to me. Google? LOL! Go get some 1st hand data. Warfare tech? You make me laugh.
Thomas
Patrick
ECA
I said cluster bombs and meant cluster bombs, like the ones used by Israel in Lebanon a year or so ago. Many children died or were hopelessly mutilated by the ones that didn’t “explode”. Whatever they are designed to do isn’t always the case. Are they deliberately painted up to make them attractive to a child? Seems to do the trick very well.
DU weapons are nuclear weapons in effect. The result of their use will remain deadly to all for the rest of time, wherever the wind patterns take it. Tungsten and uranium have similar densities and are equally useful, but tungsten is very expensive, considering the quantity required to wage needless wars. “Depleted” Uranium is costless, as it a direct by-product of building nuclear weapons. US has a huge stockpile.
Why do you think testing of DU weapons ceased on US soil some years ago? Precisely because, oops, the resulting dust is radio active. Lets go use it elsewhere.
No place to hide now. the gene is out of the bottle, never to return. Watch where you are breathing chaps.
#143
Again, the issue with cluster bombs is the same as that with DU. At the time we invaded, they were not (and at the moment still not) considered WMDs. The generals in charge of the war used the best ordinance available to save the most soldier’s lives. Whether they are *now* considered WMDs is entirely irrelevant to the issue of whether they were considered WMDs *at the time*. Call it the Romanowski approach.
Thomas,
What don’t you understand about DU? By using these weapons knowing that, in use, it converts into microscopic wind blown radioactive particles, US in effect declared war on the entire world. There is no telling where or when YOU may suffer the same consequences as many of the invaded populations and indeed many US troops forced to use them, uninformed. Chickens coming home to roost?
Imagine just for a second that you are a general in charge of thousands of soldiers lives. In your arsenal is an incredibly effective weapon at destroying enemy armor however there is a *possibility* (and that is all that it is at the moment) that it has residual effects although you have taken precautions with your troops in dealing with the effects. It has not been banned by the international community nor has it been declared a WMD. Do you use it? Damn right you use it!
Even if tomorrow, the international community declared DU weapons to be WMDs and banned, the US would still be justified having used them prior to that declaration as they were not considered WMDs **at the time**.
Was Truman justified in using nuclear weapons? Absolutely! Would he have been justified in using them in Korea? No.
Thomas…
The generals you mention are given the weapons they must use and the orders to use them. The US Administration does that. The generals really have no options. Their troops were placed in their hazardous positions by the same Administration by contrived means. They are the people responsible.
You failed to mention an earlier contrived war waged upon Nth. Vietnam, where 53,000 US troops met their doom and well over 2,000,000 Vietnamese, mostly civilians were murdered. The means used were WMDs, in the form of Napalm and defoliant Agent Orange, which, in reality, is Dioxin … one of the most potent poisons yet made. Many generations of Vietnamese and certainly offspring of returned US servicemen have yet to pay the price of this crime. The Tonkin Gulf Incident was used to allow US to Constitutionally declare war on Vietnam.
9/11 was also such a ploy for invading Afghanistan and Iraq and you know it.
All I ask of you is to answer the simple SMOKING GUN question … WHAT MELTED THE STEEL found beneath each of the THREE collapsed WTC buildings. Of course, you can’t, because any answer must be … an agent which will not be found in any normal office building. Be honest with yourself and shed the false umbrella you continue to hide beneath. Get it of your chest.
Those who declare wars, make the rules.
#147
> The generals you mention are
> given the weapons they must
> use and the orders to use them.
Completely wrong. The generals are given weapons they CAN use and the GENERALS decide how best to use them if at all. At most the President can restrict what weapons are made available (FAE’s, nukes etc).
RE: Vietnam
Vietnam was mismanaged by Johnson (and Kennedy) and his staff from the beginning. Yes, in *Vietnam*, the President and his administration mucked with the duties of their generals and it turned into a disaster. However, both Iraq wars were handled much differently specifically because of the mistakes made at Vietnam.
RE: 9/11
You just donned the tin foil hat. I’m not going to debate whether 9/11 was contrived. Needless to say, until someone provides specific and incontrovertible evidence of people in the act of conspiring to mastermind 9/11, it must be accepted that it was simply the work of a bunch of fanatical loonies.
Thomas,
re 9/11
So you are saying, in effect, that you are not prepared to put your mind towards offering what substance melted steel in those 3 WTC locations. This is all that is required to prove that something very, very abnormal happened within those buildings at that time. Once that is established, THEN you will know for sure that local people were responsible. The official reports you lean on so heavily fail to even mention the existence of MOLTEN STEEL … WHY? What do YOUR OWN EYES tell you, if you have yet managed to find some of the recorded facts of the presence of that MOLTEN STEEL? DO TELL.
You don’t get it. Forgot *ALL* of the physical evidence. It is all completely circumstantial. Where is the incontrovertible evidence that points to specific people committing specific acts of conspiracy?
Thomas …
Firstly, you must admit to yourself that something very abnormal happened within those 3 buildings. That SOMETHING will obviously point to a crime having been committed. Only then do you start looking for the criminals. You don’t start with the criminal, then look for the clues. The clues take you to the criminal.
Already, 7 years have been lost. The criminals have played havoc by initiating terrible wars on the basis of those collapses. Too many innocents have died due to those 3 contrived collapses.
Why are you so complacent? Who pays you to be so? Where are your thinking powers?
If you want another thinking point, consider this. Why did VP Cheney stand in the White House Bunker, on that fateful morning, loudly stating several times that a rogue plane approaching the Pentagon be NOT SHOT DOWN each time he was informed of its closing distance? Google it.
#151–Logician==something abnormal did happen to those three buildings==they got hit by two airplanes loaded with gas.
All kinds of unknown consequences flow from that alone, so mysteries and inconsistencies should only be expected unless the news is completely controlled by a central source.
We don’t have that, we have every freaking monkey with their own whacked out opinions==which is how we have yours.
Molten Metal?==came up on a recent thread. You got buildings with who knows what stored inside. Whats wrong with the notion that some batteries melted? Unknowns are like that.
#151
Clearly, you and the other 9/11 nuts think you have sufficient evidence to be suspicious. The ONLY way you are going to convince people of the existence of a conspiracy is to find tangible evidence than be used in a court of law to convict specific people of wrong doing. Then and only then will anyone lend any legitimacy to the idea of a conspiracy.
#152, Bobo…
Two buildings were each hit by a plane, the Third building WAS NOT. ALL THREE had molten STEEL beneath their rubble piles. Jet fuel is kerosene, which has no hope of ever melting STEEL, even under the best air feed conditions.
The media as a whole has played the official game for 7 years. Popular Mechanics is typical. For 7 years we have had your breed of monkeys mindlessly performing for those responsible.
You certainly don’t know much about batteries and the metal used … if you are speaking of lead acid batteries. What color is molten lead? Melt some on your gas stove and pour it. Not a bit like MOLTEN STEEL and is not likely to remain molten for 17 weeks.. Go back to your cage, read the official report again and try for another brilliant thought.
Simply give us the key to that MOLTEN STEEL, then we can identify the responsible criminals.
#153, Thomas …
First identify OBVIOUS evidence, which will then lead to the criminals. The evidence must be accepted OFFICIALLY before this can proceed.
I offer obviously simple evidence, which is NOT officially reported, but is openly available for all to see with their own eyes. Have you bothered to look at this evidence? Do so, then come back with some constructive views. All we need is HOW DID THIS HAPPEN. WE NEED IT FROM YOUR LIPS. Then action can proceed.
Arrange to have this evidence placed into a revised Official Report. You will be surprised where this will lead.
There has already been an investigation and it has already established reasons for the 9/11 attack. You apparently do not like the explanation.
You have presented ZERO evidence that points to specific people conspiring to commit this crime. Everything you and the 9/11 tin foil hat crowd have presented is entirely circumstantial. “How” it happened only matters in so much that you have tangible evidence that implicates specific people committing specific criminal acts; everything else is tin foil hat conspiracy without it.
#156, Thomas …
You must feel very comfortable living in your little Official cocoon. In the real world, things are happening, beyond your understanding.
Shortly, another contrived war will be the US attack and invasion of Iran. The last act of a depraved, departing ‘administration’. Wonder what will be the precursor event. Remember, US MUST BE ‘ATTACKED’ before a war can be declared. Wait for it.
You have no idea how the real world works. You have no idea how Steel can possibly MELT in an office building … the key to 9/11. Find the courage to say the word which will completely change your view of the world.
I think I have wasted more than enough time discussing the impossible with you. Enjoy your comfy Official cocoon.
> I think I have wasted
> more than enough time
> discussing the impossible
> with you
Indeed.
Thomas,
should you revisit.
It is even worse than previously thought.
Recent reports by Dr.Doug Rokke, regarding Depleted Uranium Weapons concerns. He is THE US expert in such matters. MUST READ status.
‘ Depleted Uranium Situation Worsens ‘ should be active. If not try, if reproduction allowed,
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=119614;title=APFN