Should McCain Choose Hillary as VP? Why Not?

Published on June 13th, 2008

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McCain Should Choose Hillary as VP

The logic behind this idea is a sure winner. If Hillary wants to make history, then she should jump to the Republican Party and take her supporters with her. This, in fact, is the dream ticket people talk about. Here is the logic:

McCain groupies have already hinted that McCain might choose a Democrat as Joe Lieberman was even mentioned, so this is a possibility.

Hillary was raised a Republican so it is not completely crazy.

McCain could more easily rein in Bill Clinton, who has been hanging out with Republican George HW Bush anyway.

Mixed party President/VP has historical precedent.

McCain is getting older and she would be a better back-up for him than for Obama.

Obama will not choose her.

Her policy notions and McCain’s are similar.

This way she shows Bill and the rest of the world that she is her own woman.

Becomes an historical moment of the highest order.

Makes nothing but sense when you think about it.

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# 1 Jeff said, on June 13th, 2008 at 6:52 am

Not a chance in hell. It might be a “wet dream” of the Drudge-report crowd, however. They seem to have an utter fascination with the Clinton’s. This is probably because they are more interesting than the drunk that we have in office now or that creepy morningstar standing over his shoulder.

# 2 DieFundie said, on June 13th, 2008 at 6:52 am

ROFL. Lieberman is a what now?

It makes no sense, they’re very far apart on many core issues.

# 3 Dallas said, on June 13th, 2008 at 6:55 am

John, I think you need to start your weekend early.

They are both good candidates but not together. It’s not like chocolate and peanut butter together but rather pork flavored ice cream. It won’t work.

# 4 julieb said, on June 13th, 2008 at 6:56 am

One fatal flaw is this notion.

Republicans absolutely hate Hillary.

# 5 James Hill said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:07 am

Those would be the same Limbaugh Republicans that are saying they won’t vote for McCain anyway.

Personally, I think this is an interesting idea, but Hillary would have to do something to shit all over the left to make the right buy it… and that’s not going to happen.

# 6 wyll said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:08 am

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# 7 danijel said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:10 am

Honestly John, would you vote for such a ticket? Do you know anyone who would?

# 8 wyll said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:13 am

Keep drinking the kool-aid John.

There is no choice between Lieberman and Clinton. I’m sure he’d accept. his political views change with the hour of the day to suit the situation. Hillary on the other hand is very much a Democrat and the Republican party she knew as a child died many years ago. It was fatally wounded by the then Nixon administration. Many of whom served under Bush 2. Come to think of it, the same people have just shot the Republican party in the head AGAIN!

Throw enough ridiculous things out there and one of them will hit.

Too funny

# 9 Dr Dodd said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:13 am

Would you want Hillary as your VP? You’d have to bring back the royal food taster so as not to meet with an early demise.

# 10 Misanthropic Scott said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:15 am

No way!! Not after that speech of hers giving her support to Obama. However, she might be just what the religious right would need to get them to vote McBush. She’s more religious than both of the others.

Hillary’s Prayer — from Mother Jones.

# 11 gear said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:15 am

So does Hillary give up her principals and support base when she joins McCain’s prolife ticket or does McCain give up his principals and support base when he changes his stance on the issue of abortion?

# 12 Improbus said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:23 am

Lieberman? Isn’t he the Senator from our 51st state, Israel? I think he would be a great VP for McCain. As for Hillary, McCain should not choose her for the same reason Obama shouldn’t, i.e., eventually she would literally or metaphorically put a knife in their back.

# 13 Breetai said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:26 am

I like it!

But I wear a tinfoil hat and think the Corporate Oligarchy fixes elections. Been 12 years since I voted….

# 14 MikeN said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:33 am

Lieberman is a Democrat. He even has a committee chairmanship in the Senate, which is reserved for the majority party.

# 15 Mr. Gawd Almighty said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:38 am

never

# 16 Widgethead said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:43 am

Cripes, cripes and more cripes. This is about as looney as anything I have ever read in my life.

# 17 Jeff said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:46 am

Why not just kick Little Mac off the ticket and let Hillary have it for herself.

# 18 Pmitchell said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:48 am

wow looks like the marching orders have been faxed out to all the liberal lefties from move on and the DNC

Attack McCain on all fronts no matter how ridiculous the story

# 19 Misanthropic Scott said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:49 am

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# 20 Rabble Rouser said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:53 am

WTF — Hillary campaigned for Goldwater in her youth. McAncient could actually win if she was his VP. Of course he would have to hire a food taster.

# 21 Ah_Yea said, on June 13th, 2008 at 8:13 am

Ok, everyone. Now for the other point of view.

Hillary would go for it. She has always wanted to be Pres and she is seeing her chance slipping away. Does anyone seriously believe she will be able to make a comeback after loosing this campaign? I’m sure she is reading the writing on the wall and would jump at the chance to cheat political death.

“I’ll bring Democratic core values to the White House!”, she will say. And people will follow.

As for the Republicans, our Man-Hands pundit Ann Coulter has repeatedly said that she would vote for Hillary over McCain. Even Rush-boy thinks McCain is left of Hillary. And don’t you know they will endorse this pair in a hurry to make up for their mistake of not having endorsed Romney soon enough.

The one sure thing which would crash this party are their conflicting ego’s. You couldn’t fit their ego’s together in the White House, or an Olympic stadium for that matter.

# 22 KwadGuy said, on June 13th, 2008 at 8:23 am

This is good for a chuckle and nothing more. If you wanted to entirely destroy the Republican party, this would be the way to do it. With this ticket, you would absolutely ensure the Obama win. Sure, there are a few undecideds who’d go with this ticked, but Republicans would leave in droves. Obama’s lockstep uber liberal ideas may be unappealing to most Republicans, but Hillary would be the “the only way I’d vote for Obama is…” kick in the pants they’d require to support him.

# 23 sinn fein said, on June 13th, 2008 at 8:26 am

T’ain’t no way, no how…besides, Mitt already has his stuff and family packed n’ loaded for Number One Observatory Circle.

# 24 gregallen said, on June 13th, 2008 at 8:37 am

Why not?

I remember about a decade when the conservatives obsessed on Hillary Clinton as the embodiment of evil liberalism.

Now Rush Limbaugh is encouraging his listeners to vote for her.

The cons are so self-destructing.

# 25 Stu said, on June 13th, 2008 at 8:55 am

I’ve been saying this exact thing and everyone thinks I’m crazy.

I’ve been praying for McCain to pick a woman veep, because he would capture some of Clinton’s following.

And the Clintons are moderates, relative to Obama.

You want to talk about ending politics as usual and reaching across the isle? This would prove that McCain’s serious about it.

# 26 Sea Lawyer said, on June 13th, 2008 at 9:22 am

“Mixed party President/VP has historical precedent.”

Yeah, and it’s the reason why we have the 12th Amendment. More trouble than it’s worth.

# 27 Rich said, on June 13th, 2008 at 9:24 am

And on the other side: OBAMA/CRIST.

# 28 KwadGuy said, on June 13th, 2008 at 9:44 am

Is there anything in the constitution that says the same person can’t run on multiple tickets? Maybe Hillary can be VP for both Obama and McCain. Then both men can stop worrying about the VP strategizing. Of course, the heads of the Hillary Army might just start exploding at the dissonance.

# 29 vulgrin said, on June 13th, 2008 at 10:12 am

Then we could rename the Republican Party the “Donner Party” because they would be eating each other alive.

# 30 Sagrilarus said, on June 13th, 2008 at 10:13 am

Trust me — MoveOn and the Democratic party want no part of this, even conceptually.

Clinton would run the risk of ending up with no party if McCain lost. Lieberman is in that position now, although there’s a chance that the GOP may take him when the Democrats cast him off next winter.

Clinton would not fit well in either party if she went over to the GOP ticket, and she doesn’t strike me as someone who throws a trump card until she has to.

Although to be fair, McCain approached Kerry about a dual ticket in 2004. So apparently he’s fine with the concept.

# 31 shrimp said, on June 13th, 2008 at 10:19 am

please skew this at http://tinyurl.com/5rgkhv

# 32 Billy Bob said, on June 13th, 2008 at 10:24 am

Is it April 1st already?

# 33 bobbo said, on June 13th, 2008 at 10:29 am

I’m reminded of a criticism of the Main Steam Media and why the American Public is so poorly served, electing bozo after bozo.

As this posting and thread demonstrates, seems we are more interested in the horse race than we are the issues.

– or, maybe a dog race?

# 34 framitz said, on June 13th, 2008 at 10:38 am

You’re joking right John…

John… John…

# 35 Sven LL Rafferty said, on June 13th, 2008 at 10:55 am

Hey, this way Hillary can kill McCain just like she put the hit on Vincent Foster and become president! I totally see this as doable in her eyes.

# 36 GetSmart said, on June 13th, 2008 at 11:05 am

Make it Stop! Make it Stop! They’re lookin’ at me, and they’re screaming. Make it stop!

# 37 chris said, on June 13th, 2008 at 11:24 am

I love it. I’ve never voted for a republican before. Voting a straight line republican ticket this time is going to be hard, but I’m going to do it. This would make the hard medicine easier to swallow.

Hillary in ’12!

# 38 Thinker said, on June 13th, 2008 at 11:49 am

oh, my. I think you just really made things interesting John. I’d still vote for McCain, with a smirk (cause I was voting for Hillary) but I like your logic!

# 39 hamiltonwallace said, on June 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am

Interesting notion, but they are both still part of the traditional Rep/Dem Cons/Lib school of politics. Which hasn’t worked out so well lately. We’re still: at war; cutting taxes while we’re at war; talking about healthcare; and doing nothing to shore up the weakest economy in my adult life (I’m 55). Maybe we need a change?!

# 40 John C Dvorak said, on June 13th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

#39 the actual term is Neo-Liberal

# 41 hhopper said, on June 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

This is just so ridiculous… it just might work.

# 42 Alex Steed (of Make Something Happen) said, on June 13th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

I would say that this is the dumbest idea I have ever read had it not gotten me to click on the link to this blog.

You win.

It’s sort of like when I was a kid and imagined there being an Alien v. Predator movie. Or a Freddy v. Jason flick. But studios weren’t THAT desperate. They still had SOME original ideas. Then a decade passed and look at what we got. Freddy v. Jason. Two Alien v. Predator movies.

Give it some time. This might one day become plausible.

# 43 Dorondo said, on June 13th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

Jack Weinberg is credited with saying “Don’t trust anybody over 30″ and I’m relatively sure that goes double for Dvorak. Come think of it I can no longer trust myself. It’s Dvorak’s trade to stir the pot so hat’s off.

It’s safe to say that Hillary really wants the VP position if only to be able to use the “Hillicopter” again. There is an old adage that “Politics makes strange bedfellows” and with the history being made in the presidential race I’d say possible but not probable.

# 44 Uncle Patso said, on June 13th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

Did you mean “rein in Bill Clinton” ?

(Good luck with that…)

# 45 zefyr said, on June 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Oh, the humanity!

# 46 James Hill said, on June 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

Did this thread get mentioned on a podcast? There’s a oddly high number of crap responses in this thread.

# 47 Mister Ketchup said, on June 13th, 2008 at 6:13 pm

James Hill spewed, “There’s a oddly high number of crap responses in this thread.”

Including yours asswipe.

# 48 Mr. Fusion said, on June 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

#47, Ketchup,

C’mon Mr. K. That is insulting to all the other asswipes out there.

# 49 Mister Ketchup said, on June 13th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

#48 – Yes, I guess that comparative was pretty demeaning to all other asswipes.

# 50 John S said, on June 14th, 2008 at 2:18 am

#39 HamiltonWallace said, “…they are both still part of the traditional Rep/Dem Cons/Lib school of politics.”. What he wrote was that the Republican party is considered conservative and Democratic party is considered Liberal. Two parties and the sectors of the political spectrum to which they are considered to reside. John C Dvorak’s response to Mr. Wallace “#39 the actual term is Neo-Liberal”. The same Mr. Dvorak who has been reading and writing his entire adult life. I understood Mr. Wallace to be saying that the choices being presented are still the same choices being represented to Americans since the Repulican and Democratic parties became the only two parties one could vote for. Perhaps Mr. Dvorak is too easily confused to be writing anything more than grocery lists.

John S

# 51 Yakety-Yak said, on July 9th, 2008 at 6:27 am

I would vote for that ticket. In a minute.

They would both be ‘Mavericks’ then. People are sick of the status-quo. Women will turn out in full force for a McCain-Hillary ticket. Yes!

# 52 vert22 said, on July 11th, 2008 at 8:22 am

I like it!

The ultimate twist in this electtion!
They would win!

# 53 Bev said, on July 12th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

I think McCain/Clinton ticket is a great idea. I’m a Republican who was going to vote for Hillary. And, this would be absolutely a great dream ticket as far as I am concerned.

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