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	<title>Comments on: 16 Core Processor from Sun</title>
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		<title>By: kjackman</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1208447</link>
		<dc:creator>kjackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the Sun, bringer of life and precious energy... is there anything it &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the Sun, bringer of life and precious energy&#8230; is there anything it <i>can&#8217;t</i> do?</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1208161</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed, not mac fan doing the &quot;barely enough to run Vista&quot; joke.

Maybe those two trojan horses (http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18715) managed to shut them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed, not mac fan doing the &#8220;barely enough to run Vista&#8221; joke.</p>
<p>Maybe those two trojan horses (<a href="http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18715" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18715' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=18715</a>) managed to shut them up.</p>
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		<title>By: pjakobs</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1207842</link>
		<dc:creator>pjakobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... the thing with those Sun T2 processors is that they are great for Software that uses multithreading really well like web servers etc. but really poor for software that needs single thread performance. They really are specialists of their own kind and I know many Sun customers who are looking for alternatives since Sun has no decent offering with powerful single thread, or at least not massively parallel performance. There they just loose badly.

pj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; the thing with those Sun T2 processors is that they are great for Software that uses multithreading really well like web servers etc. but really poor for software that needs single thread performance. They really are specialists of their own kind and I know many Sun customers who are looking for alternatives since Sun has no decent offering with powerful single thread, or at least not massively parallel performance. There they just loose badly.</p>
<p>pj</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1207120</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 Ballmer is causing a bleed in many of their core groups and even MS Research. I think Ozzie is good but he will have trouble pushing Ballmer when they need to take a chance.

I think it&#039;ll be interesting to see how many people leave this year after the stock vests in September.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 Ballmer is causing a bleed in many of their core groups and even MS Research. I think Ozzie is good but he will have trouble pushing Ballmer when they need to take a chance.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;ll be interesting to see how many people leave this year after the stock vests in September.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in Seattle</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1207114</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim in Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Steve Ballmer. He&#039;s announced he&#039;s leaving in 10 years. Sounds like a long time, but it&#039;s not. He&#039;s the biz guy; Ozzie will create an environment for creativity and innovation while Ballmer goes out and sells it, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Steve Ballmer. He&#8217;s announced he&#8217;s leaving in 10 years. Sounds like a long time, but it&#8217;s not. He&#8217;s the biz guy; Ozzie will create an environment for creativity and innovation while Ballmer goes out and sells it, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1207113</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy behind Lotus Notes is going to save M$? LMAO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy behind Lotus Notes is going to save M$? LMAO!</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1207110</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1: Ray Ozzie is going to be great

I think Ray Ozzie is a pretty smart and nice guy. He also hasn&#039;t delivered anything major for quite a while, but things can always change. The problem in Ballmer, he crushes any creativity and initiative in that company.

The other guy to keep an eye on at MS is Scott Guthrie. I think he could be the &quot;next BG&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1: Ray Ozzie is going to be great</p>
<p>I think Ray Ozzie is a pretty smart and nice guy. He also hasn&#8217;t delivered anything major for quite a while, but things can always change. The problem in Ballmer, he crushes any creativity and initiative in that company.</p>
<p>The other guy to keep an eye on at MS is Scott Guthrie. I think he could be the &#8220;next BG&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/24/16-core-processor-from-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1207108</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sun is back on the Niagara bandwagon looking for cheap scaling across federated cores. For example, I saw an internal demo of MySql running fully parallel on 20 chips with 80 cores total. They&#039;ve also been beefing up the Solaris JDK (and Glassfish) to take full advantage of multicore, specifically on Niagara. Threading has always been &quot;OK&quot; on Java.

The core/processor engineers have been doing amazing stuff (for cheap) over the last three years and now they&#039;re trying to get their software and OS teams to catch up.

They&#039;re looking for places that have big Java problems to solve and could take advantage of it. For example, hugely successful startups like LinkedIn or Facebook are pushing all sorts of boundaries that Sun thinks they can solve. Banks, insurance, airlines, etailers, etc all have these problems. Also it saves $$ on electricity which is kind of a small rage these days in IT organizations. IT Governance and Management is suddenly &quot;green&quot; - or at least this year since SOX is so boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun is back on the Niagara bandwagon looking for cheap scaling across federated cores. For example, I saw an internal demo of MySql running fully parallel on 20 chips with 80 cores total. They&#8217;ve also been beefing up the Solaris JDK (and Glassfish) to take full advantage of multicore, specifically on Niagara. Threading has always been &#8220;OK&#8221; on Java.</p>
<p>The core/processor engineers have been doing amazing stuff (for cheap) over the last three years and now they&#8217;re trying to get their software and OS teams to catch up.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re looking for places that have big Java problems to solve and could take advantage of it. For example, hugely successful startups like LinkedIn or Facebook are pushing all sorts of boundaries that Sun thinks they can solve. Banks, insurance, airlines, etailers, etc all have these problems. Also it saves $$ on electricity which is kind of a small rage these days in IT organizations. IT Governance and Management is suddenly &#8220;green&#8221; &#8211; or at least this year since SOX is so boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in Seattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you have such a hard on for Bill Gates? The guy is stepping down because he knows it&#039;s time to go. There&#039;s a great week-long series on The Seattle Times Web site about his legacy. True, he may have been (and still is) a geek, but he and his wife have a family, he has recognized the need to step aside for Microsoft to move forward (Ray Ozzie is going to be great) and will concentrate on his foundation---and actually make a difference in the deepest, darkest, poorest places in the world. Now that he may have more free time, maybe he&#039;ll come on Cranky Geeks when he&#039;s in San Fran? All he can say is &quot;no.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you have such a hard on for Bill Gates? The guy is stepping down because he knows it&#8217;s time to go. There&#8217;s a great week-long series on The Seattle Times Web site about his legacy. True, he may have been (and still is) a geek, but he and his wife have a family, he has recognized the need to step aside for Microsoft to move forward (Ray Ozzie is going to be great) and will concentrate on his foundation&#8212;and actually make a difference in the deepest, darkest, poorest places in the world. Now that he may have more free time, maybe he&#8217;ll come on Cranky Geeks when he&#8217;s in San Fran? All he can say is &#8220;no.&#8221;</p>
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