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	<title>Comments on: Father&#8217;s Day cards banned in Scottish schools &#8212; Christ OUT of Christmas</title>
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		<title>By: rectagon</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/26/fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools-christ-out-of-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-1211663</link>
		<dc:creator>rectagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only I could spell.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only I could spell&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rectagon</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/26/fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools-christ-out-of-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-1211661</link>
		<dc:creator>rectagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marry Christmas everybody!   You reap what you sow. (where did that come from?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marry Christmas everybody!   You reap what you sow. (where did that come from?).</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/26/fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools-christ-out-of-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-1211613</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So 1/4 don&#039;t have a father at home. How many of those kids see their father every Tuesday and every second weekend?

How many of the children with NO father in the picture, have a surrogate. A Grandfather, mother&#039;s boyfriend, uncle, or older brother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So 1/4 don&#8217;t have a father at home. How many of those kids see their father every Tuesday and every second weekend?</p>
<p>How many of the children with NO father in the picture, have a surrogate. A Grandfather, mother&#8217;s boyfriend, uncle, or older brother?</p>
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		<title>By: GregAllen</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregAllen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! Posted in the wrong forum!

(Global warming deniers are still idiots in any forum!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! Posted in the wrong forum!</p>
<p>(Global warming deniers are still idiots in any forum!)</p>
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		<title>By: GregAllen</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/26/fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools-christ-out-of-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-1211594</link>
		<dc:creator>GregAllen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and the right wing is still claiming global warming doesn&#039;t exist.

What idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and the right wing is still claiming global warming doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>What idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/26/fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools-christ-out-of-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-1211458</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 and that&#039;s why homosexual man couples are better, because they have 2 father figures...or are there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 and that&#8217;s why homosexual man couples are better, because they have 2 father figures&#8230;or are there?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/26/fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools-christ-out-of-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-1211433</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth. Men simply are not as important as women in child raising. They don&#039;t carry the child, they don&#039;t give birth to it and many don&#039;t do much in the early days of child raising (i.e. direct interactions). 

From a financial perspective they are essential or at least two individuals raising a child show benefits. Recent research has also shown that both boys and girls do benefit significantly from a male role model... and a father is the most ideal candidate.

If you are making a difference... good for you. Seriously. Continue to do so. Your child is more likely to grow up balanced and have better self esteem and drive.

I so far have taken the easy way out. I&#039;ve decided not to have kids... though as a guy I do realize that at times this is not entirely under my control. There are, however, options to change this in a more permanent measure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth. Men simply are not as important as women in child raising. They don&#8217;t carry the child, they don&#8217;t give birth to it and many don&#8217;t do much in the early days of child raising (i.e. direct interactions). </p>
<p>From a financial perspective they are essential or at least two individuals raising a child show benefits. Recent research has also shown that both boys and girls do benefit significantly from a male role model&#8230; and a father is the most ideal candidate.</p>
<p>If you are making a difference&#8230; good for you. Seriously. Continue to do so. Your child is more likely to grow up balanced and have better self esteem and drive.</p>
<p>I so far have taken the easy way out. I&#8217;ve decided not to have kids&#8230; though as a guy I do realize that at times this is not entirely under my control. There are, however, options to change this in a more permanent measure.</p>
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		<title>By: jccalhoun hates the spam filter</title>
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		<dc:creator>jccalhoun hates the spam filter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if you don&#039;t have a dad then you are ok because they banished father&#039;s day.  What if you don&#039;t have a mom?  Then I guess you are screwed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if you don&#8217;t have a dad then you are ok because they banished father&#8217;s day.  What if you don&#8217;t have a mom?  Then I guess you are screwed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dmstrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmstrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they are going to get rid of Father&#039;s Day just be sure they remove Mother&#039;s Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are going to get rid of Father&#8217;s Day just be sure they remove Mother&#8217;s Day.</p>
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		<title>By: mom0552</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/26/fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools-christ-out-of-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-1210880</link>
		<dc:creator>mom0552</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With so many fathers not stepping up to their responsibilities, let&#039;s PLEASE affirm and reward those who do. Father&#039;s day should be a big deal. Let the kids with dads they can find take a nice card home to him, or mail him one and let those without dads make a &quot;Dads, do you know that you have kids?&quot; poster to post in local watering holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so many fathers not stepping up to their responsibilities, let&#8217;s PLEASE affirm and reward those who do. Father&#8217;s day should be a big deal. Let the kids with dads they can find take a nice card home to him, or mail him one and let those without dads make a &#8220;Dads, do you know that you have kids?&#8221; poster to post in local watering holes.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nurturer&#039;s day. What a load of PC manure

#14 you do realise that you said you make stoopid posts, right?

And being pissy about your dad doesn&#039;t grant you rights to moan about others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nurturer&#8217;s day. What a load of PC manure</p>
<p>#14 you do realise that you said you make stoopid posts, right?</p>
<p>And being pissy about your dad doesn&#8217;t grant you rights to moan about others.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your a kid in Scotland and your mother is an Edinburgh crack-whore and your father is a drunk who sleeps in a ditch - do you really want to make them a card for nurturer&#039;s day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your a kid in Scotland and your mother is an Edinburgh crack-whore and your father is a drunk who sleeps in a ditch &#8211; do you really want to make them a card for nurturer&#8217;s day?</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attention liberals: Government can only constrain rights, not grant them.

Following this, the issue at hand is that the school is limiting a right for no reason. Trying to reverse the logic doesn&#039;t work... unless you&#039;re a socialist.

And if you&#039;re a socialist, you should kill yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attention liberals: Government can only constrain rights, not grant them.</p>
<p>Following this, the issue at hand is that the school is limiting a right for no reason. Trying to reverse the logic doesn&#8217;t work&#8230; unless you&#8217;re a socialist.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re a socialist, you should kill yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Shin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14

Apply that same stat to the number of stupid posts you make in a day.

#10, 11

I had a father. He took his lame ass off after creating 3 kids so he wouldn&#039;t have to actually work for a living, and the courts did diddlysquat.  1/4 of those fathers have minimized their own roles in the raising of their children, and likely another quarter spend more time in their local pub than with their children.  Do I sound bitter?

When did it become the schools job to sponsor made up holidays for the benefit of the greeting card industry and razor manufacturers everywhere?  Making all the kiddies sit down to make cards (for any holiday) is nothing but a chance to give the teacher a break from having to do any educating.  They may well need a break, but I&#039;m not sure (either way) that said breaks need to be codified as part of the curriculum. If little Johnny really wants to give you a card..well..he has more time out of school than in it.</description>
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<p>Apply that same stat to the number of stupid posts you make in a day.</p>
<p>#10, 11</p>
<p>I had a father. He took his lame ass off after creating 3 kids so he wouldn&#8217;t have to actually work for a living, and the courts did diddlysquat.  1/4 of those fathers have minimized their own roles in the raising of their children, and likely another quarter spend more time in their local pub than with their children.  Do I sound bitter?</p>
<p>When did it become the schools job to sponsor made up holidays for the benefit of the greeting card industry and razor manufacturers everywhere?  Making all the kiddies sit down to make cards (for any holiday) is nothing but a chance to give the teacher a break from having to do any educating.  They may well need a break, but I&#8217;m not sure (either way) that said breaks need to be codified as part of the curriculum. If little Johnny really wants to give you a card..well..he has more time out of school than in it.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 no thanks to science.

#11 thing is, for every good thing the ACLU does, it makes 10 stoopid ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 no thanks to science.</p>
<p>#11 thing is, for every good thing the ACLU does, it makes 10 stoopid ones.</p>
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