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	<title>Comments on: Children&#8217;s rights were violated when they weren&#8217;t invited to birthday party</title>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is outrageous. Some kid wanted to invite his friends to his party, now these two kids he didn&#039;t invite could have been just bullies, or nerds or something, but big deal, if he doesn&#039;t want them at his house at his party, big deal. Just because they are kids doesn&#039;t mean that someone has to lay out a red carpet for them, along the bumpy and steep bridge of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is outrageous. Some kid wanted to invite his friends to his party, now these two kids he didn&#8217;t invite could have been just bullies, or nerds or something, but big deal, if he doesn&#8217;t want them at his house at his party, big deal. Just because they are kids doesn&#8217;t mean that someone has to lay out a red carpet for them, along the bumpy and steep bridge of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweden must be a wonderful country if they have  enough free time to obsess over such minor things.</description>
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		<title>By: dmstrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmstrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess then everyone should pass every single class they take then, too.  I could certainly see the argument that passing a student is an &quot;invitation&quot; to the next grade and if you don&#039;t &quot;invite&quot; everyone to the next grade you are descriminating those children who are destined to dig ditches or work at McDonalds as an hourly manager for the rest of their lives from those who want to go to college.  

But then that slipperly slope continues.  If a college is recruiting on school grounds and makes an offer for a scholarship, shouldn&#039;t everyone in his class get one, too?  

I can&#039;t wait for my son&#039;s first real school invitations to go out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess then everyone should pass every single class they take then, too.  I could certainly see the argument that passing a student is an &#8220;invitation&#8221; to the next grade and if you don&#8217;t &#8220;invite&#8221; everyone to the next grade you are descriminating those children who are destined to dig ditches or work at McDonalds as an hourly manager for the rest of their lives from those who want to go to college.  </p>
<p>But then that slipperly slope continues.  If a college is recruiting on school grounds and makes an offer for a scholarship, shouldn&#8217;t everyone in his class get one, too?  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for my son&#8217;s first real school invitations to go out!</p>
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		<title>By: DWYutzy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/29/childrens-rights-were-violated-when-they-werent-invited-to-birthday-party/comment-page-2/#comment-1214485</link>
		<dc:creator>DWYutzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I experienced this same problem at my daughter&#039;s school in the US, Ohio to be exact.  She was in the 5th grade, went to school and was handing out her invitations and about mid-morning I got a call to come pick her up and to speak to the principal.  I took off work and when I sat through like 20 minutes of explanation, I seriously told the man:  WTF?

So, having laughed my way out the door, my daughter then proceeded (the next day) to hand the cards out to the kids as they left school (she stood outside and before the kids got on the bus).  

Once again, I&#039;m called back and basically the rule is (now) she can&#039;t do this on school grounds.  Our only recourse is to snail-mail the cards (with postage), tell the kids verbally (out of earshot of those not invited or I&#039;m back in the same situation, seriously) or call the kids at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experienced this same problem at my daughter&#8217;s school in the US, Ohio to be exact.  She was in the 5th grade, went to school and was handing out her invitations and about mid-morning I got a call to come pick her up and to speak to the principal.  I took off work and when I sat through like 20 minutes of explanation, I seriously told the man:  WTF?</p>
<p>So, having laughed my way out the door, my daughter then proceeded (the next day) to hand the cards out to the kids as they left school (she stood outside and before the kids got on the bus).  </p>
<p>Once again, I&#8217;m called back and basically the rule is (now) she can&#8217;t do this on school grounds.  Our only recourse is to snail-mail the cards (with postage), tell the kids verbally (out of earshot of those not invited or I&#8217;m back in the same situation, seriously) or call the kids at home.</p>
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		<title>By: BigCarbonFoot</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/29/childrens-rights-were-violated-when-they-werent-invited-to-birthday-party/comment-page-2/#comment-1214409</link>
		<dc:creator>BigCarbonFoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you expect out of a non-US country?</description>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/29/childrens-rights-were-violated-when-they-werent-invited-to-birthday-party/comment-page-2/#comment-1213921</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is any of the teacher&#039;s or the schools business who some kids parents decide to invite to a party unless that party is during school hours or on school grounds. Why should a parent have to invite an entire class over to slumber party or whatever?

In a lot of cases it&#039;s less the kid that doesn&#039;t get invited than the fact they don&#039;t care for the kid&#039;s guardians. In others they don&#039;t want the kid around because they are no fun. Not everybody in a class is going to be best buddies.

Neither the teacher nor the school is going to change either of those last two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is any of the teacher&#8217;s or the schools business who some kids parents decide to invite to a party unless that party is during school hours or on school grounds. Why should a parent have to invite an entire class over to slumber party or whatever?</p>
<p>In a lot of cases it&#8217;s less the kid that doesn&#8217;t get invited than the fact they don&#8217;t care for the kid&#8217;s guardians. In others they don&#8217;t want the kid around because they are no fun. Not everybody in a class is going to be best buddies.</p>
<p>Neither the teacher nor the school is going to change either of those last two.</p>
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		<title>By: Freyar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freyar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be a little off, but I thought the &quot;Bad&quot; kind of discrimination stems from things that &#039;you can&#039;t change&#039;, such as race, gender, orientation (some see that as debatable).

However, if I don&#039;t like someone, that is something that can be changed. Discrimination is a part of life regardless of what is going on. You have to discriminate when you decide which place you want to go eat, or what you want to eat. You have to discriminate against other movie theaters when you go to a different one. You have to discriminate when you decide not to give a loan to a friend or associate.

Bottom line is that while discrimination over the years has been seen as just a &#039;race, sex, orientation&#039; issue, discrimination is in every single decision we make.

As far as the issue with the birthday invitations, it ought to have been left alone. You aren&#039;t going to get invited to every party, you aren&#039;t going to be liked by everyone, and it&#039;s actually really good to not be in the first place. Imagine how embarrased or ashamed the kid (that was giving the invitations out) felt once the teacher&#039;s response was to confiscate them?

What about his rights in that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be a little off, but I thought the &#8220;Bad&#8221; kind of discrimination stems from things that &#8216;you can&#8217;t change&#8217;, such as race, gender, orientation (some see that as debatable).</p>
<p>However, if I don&#8217;t like someone, that is something that can be changed. Discrimination is a part of life regardless of what is going on. You have to discriminate when you decide which place you want to go eat, or what you want to eat. You have to discriminate against other movie theaters when you go to a different one. You have to discriminate when you decide not to give a loan to a friend or associate.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that while discrimination over the years has been seen as just a &#8216;race, sex, orientation&#8217; issue, discrimination is in every single decision we make.</p>
<p>As far as the issue with the birthday invitations, it ought to have been left alone. You aren&#8217;t going to get invited to every party, you aren&#8217;t going to be liked by everyone, and it&#8217;s actually really good to not be in the first place. Imagine how embarrased or ashamed the kid (that was giving the invitations out) felt once the teacher&#8217;s response was to confiscate them?</p>
<p>What about his rights in that?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmeyers</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/29/childrens-rights-were-violated-when-they-werent-invited-to-birthday-party/comment-page-2/#comment-1213777</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15 &quot;If nobody likes you, you’re much better off getting to the bottom of why this is the case when you are 8 years old&quot;

Priceless! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15 &#8220;If nobody likes you, you’re much better off getting to the bottom of why this is the case when you are 8 years old&#8221;</p>
<p>Priceless! <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: advancedk</title>
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		<dc:creator>advancedk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet the teacher who confiscated the notes didn&#039;t get invited to a party when they were at school. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet the teacher who confiscated the notes didn&#8217;t get invited to a party when they were at school. . .</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of Euro PC crapola. You weren&#039;t invited? Boo fricking hoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of Euro PC crapola. You weren&#8217;t invited? Boo fricking hoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/29/childrens-rights-were-violated-when-they-werent-invited-to-birthday-party/comment-page-1/#comment-1213679</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no need to waste the bw on a nanny state banner on this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no need to waste the bw on a nanny state banner on this one</p>
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		<title>By: hhopper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/29/childrens-rights-were-violated-when-they-werent-invited-to-birthday-party/comment-page-1/#comment-1213598</link>
		<dc:creator>hhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the Nanny State banner???</description>
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		<title>By: nalts</title>
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		<dc:creator>nalts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the person that said, mail out the invite. I don&#039;t know where you live, but I don&#039;t have the addresses of all my child&#039;s classmates. I certainly don&#039;t want some of the crazy parents having mine either.

When my kids had their birthday, they gave the invites to their friends. The kids they didn&#039;t want to hang out with, didn&#039;t get invites. 

Case closed.

Now, if the school wants to take me to court over this, they are in for a l-o-n-g fight. The schools better not win this case.

Just one more reason to homeschool your kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the person that said, mail out the invite. I don&#8217;t know where you live, but I don&#8217;t have the addresses of all my child&#8217;s classmates. I certainly don&#8217;t want some of the crazy parents having mine either.</p>
<p>When my kids had their birthday, they gave the invites to their friends. The kids they didn&#8217;t want to hang out with, didn&#8217;t get invites. </p>
<p>Case closed.</p>
<p>Now, if the school wants to take me to court over this, they are in for a l-o-n-g fight. The schools better not win this case.</p>
<p>Just one more reason to homeschool your kids.</p>
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		<title>By: BdgBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>BdgBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; #4. Imagine being the kid who didn’t get the invitation while watching the other kids get theirs….&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If nobody likes you, you&#039;re much better off getting to the bottom of why this is the case when you are 8 years old then when you are 35.

Being a kid is practice for being an adult. If you protect kids from every little disapointment and insult, they are going to have a very tough time navigating the &quot;real world&quot; when/if they leave your protected nest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> #4. Imagine being the kid who didn’t get the invitation while watching the other kids get theirs….</p></blockquote>
<p>If nobody likes you, you&#8217;re much better off getting to the bottom of why this is the case when you are 8 years old then when you are 35.</p>
<p>Being a kid is practice for being an adult. If you protect kids from every little disapointment and insult, they are going to have a very tough time navigating the &#8220;real world&#8221; when/if they leave your protected nest.</p>
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		<title>By: edwinrogers</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/06/29/childrens-rights-were-violated-when-they-werent-invited-to-birthday-party/comment-page-1/#comment-1213501</link>
		<dc:creator>edwinrogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake me up, when it&#039;s Ok to like, Sweden.</description>
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