# 18 – “#16 said: “…Carry a gun to defend yourself from the other dude with a gun! The fact that if neither of you had one of the bloody things, this wouldn’t be a problem seems to have eluded a large portion of otherwise rational people…”

So, making guns illegal will rid ourselves from murders. I thought you said it would be the other way around?

I’m with you here, if you leave guns legal, no one would need to use them nor want to kill others or themelves.”

Umm… you seem to have managed to trip yourself up in your own thought process… scarcity of guns means less of them to go bang. That said the biggest issue is not the legality or otherwise of guns – Australia has alot of guns, owned by farmers mainly, but a low gun crime rate in comparison to the US… Why is this? It is to do with the attitude towards them – Australians do not have the “right to bear arms” bullcrap, nor is it legal to kill to defend property. They rely on their police force to do the defending for them, and that police force has an easier job than in the US, as the crims they are dealing with generally do not have firearms… hmmm… However, due to the slow infiltration of US ideas re self-defence, the gun related crime in OZ has gone up in recent years.

In Oz a gun is a tool, like a shovel or a tractor – handguns are ILLEGAL as their only purpose is to be hidden and who needs to hide a tool? Only a crim would need to hide a gun, so what need is there for handguns? Automatics are also illegal, how many kangaroos or wounded cattle do you need to kill all at once?

If you punish a child for doing something wrong, you give him a chance to be trusted afterwards, don’t you? I’m not saying you don’t watch like crazy for repeat signs, but you do let them grow past it. If not …

I’d say this person has done everything possible to shown he’s trustworthy again, and you have to treat him appropriately. Otherwise, you’re saying you’ll NEVER forgive him, and that he might as well go back to a life of crime, since he’ll never be ‘one of us’.

So, making guns illegal will rid ourselves from murders. I thought you said it would be the other way around?

I’m with you here, if you leave guns legal, no one would need to use them nor want to kill others or themelves.

BTW – Did anyone notice that he was honest enough to bring his crime to the attention of the selection board? On that alone I would admit him! He has obviously learnt a lessonin honesty and courage and would potentially make a great doc and member of society.

WTF! You have got to be kidding! This sort of approach is the reason the US has higher gun related deaths than any other non-warring nation (and even then… I vaguely remember Cheney saying a while back that Iraq was stable because the per capita death rate was similar to Detroit! I think that says more about Detroit than Iraq…)

Carry a gun to defend yourself from the other dude with a gun! The fact that if neither of you had one of the bloody things, this wouldn’t be a problem seems to have eluded a large portion of otherwise rational people.

George – are you Texan by any chance…? I believe that killing a man to defend a neighour’s property is legal there? Well, some of us never made it out of the stone-age and are a product of whatever limited education was dolled out in between the ironing of bedsheets and knotting of nooses… for that one has to forgive, I suppose.

While I agree with the majority, at least I know the supposed liberal argument: You shows the greater desire and dedication to achieve in life? Someone who grew up in the ghetto with no social supports who manages the high testing scores, or the lazy affluent child of privilege who is tutored and coached all along the way to get only the same score?

And there is even a very practical answer==you are “practical” aren’t you George?? Is the medical profession to be staffed only of the cream of the crop type who want to get rich serving the cream of the crop types==or do the lower economic classes deserve some dedicated professionals who also are “of” them and relate to them?

White pricks of privilege are after all a minority in society.

I celebrate that unknown medical student whose grades were just as good and did not decide to commit crimes. He will be a better doctor than this piece of human garbage.

When you catch a burglar in your home, you shoot him. You don’t send him to medical school!

Why do you Liberals love criminals so much?

I’d exchange letting this guy in, if they eliminate all race based admissions.

I live in a LatinAmerican nation; unlike in the USA, here they can blatantly portray blacks as coconut climbing, semisimians; and let’s not forget the extra racist rice and/or mouse poison ads on the radio where they put some a-hole to do a mock chinese accent.

That’s every time I see on the news all those hispanics whining that they’re being discriminated in the USA I smirk.

I went to the also world famous and no longer existing Monkey Bar and had a few beers over that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouDRDzqTu0M

Angel, have you visited Pearl Harbor? Someone told me once Asians weren’t welcome, some such nonsense.

Or an Indian in full head dress visiting WTC in NY.

Any truth behind that?