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	<title>Comments on: Irish will not be bullied over ’second vote’</title>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/17/irish-will-not-be-bullied-over-%e2%80%99second-vote%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-1247799</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8, according to the article, Ireland was the only one with a popular referendum vote. All the other countries voted yes in their legislatures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, according to the article, Ireland was the only one with a popular referendum vote. All the other countries voted yes in their legislatures.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will the other countries vote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the other countries vote?</p>
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		<title>By: stephenc</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephenc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We (Irish) have had this in the past. Referendum on Nice - vote was no. The government said &quot;the public didn&#039;t understand the issues at hand. We shall educate them and ask again.&quot; And unfortunately for Nice 2, the vote was yes.

This time however, the Lisbon treaty was met with a larger No vote. And it&#039;s less likely that a re-vote will be a Yes. There&#039;s also a large bad sentiment about being asked twice for Nice.

We said No - now the eurocrats have to deal with it.

We will not be assimilated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We (Irish) have had this in the past. Referendum on Nice &#8211; vote was no. The government said &#8220;the public didn&#8217;t understand the issues at hand. We shall educate them and ask again.&#8221; And unfortunately for Nice 2, the vote was yes.</p>
<p>This time however, the Lisbon treaty was met with a larger No vote. And it&#8217;s less likely that a re-vote will be a Yes. There&#8217;s also a large bad sentiment about being asked twice for Nice.</p>
<p>We said No &#8211; now the eurocrats have to deal with it.</p>
<p>We will not be assimilated.</p>
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		<title>By: Calin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn journalists never get it right.  In reality Mr Sarkozy said “the Irish will have to vote again”; to which Foreign Minister Martin replied, &quot;We’ll be looking at it from an Irish perspective and what’s in the best interests of Ireland.  Therefore Mr. Sarkozy can kiss my Irish Ass.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn journalists never get it right.  In reality Mr Sarkozy said “the Irish will have to vote again”; to which Foreign Minister Martin replied, &#8220;We’ll be looking at it from an Irish perspective and what’s in the best interests of Ireland.  Therefore Mr. Sarkozy can kiss my Irish Ass.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: uberalex</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberalex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angus, it&#039;s a bit more complex than that. There&#039;s the European Parliament, which is directly elected, the Council of the Union, made up of the member-states government ministers and the European Commission, which is the appointed bit.

http://europa.eu/abc/panorama/howorganised/index_en.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angus, it&#8217;s a bit more complex than that. There&#8217;s the European Parliament, which is directly elected, the Council of the Union, made up of the member-states government ministers and the European Commission, which is the appointed bit.</p>
<p><a href="http://europa.eu/abc/panorama/howorganised/index_en.htm" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://europa.eu/abc/panorama/howorganised/index_en.htm' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://europa.eu/abc/panorama/howorganised/index_en.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/17/irish-will-not-be-bullied-over-%e2%80%99second-vote%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-1247221</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should keep voting until they give the answer the EU wants! It&#039;s not like the EU is a Democracy or Direct Representative Republic.

If I remember correctly, and anyone help me if I&#039;m wrong, EU representatives are assigned by individual respesentatives from the subscriber countries. So, it&#039;s an unelected government?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should keep voting until they give the answer the EU wants! It&#8217;s not like the EU is a Democracy or Direct Representative Republic.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, and anyone help me if I&#8217;m wrong, EU representatives are assigned by individual respesentatives from the subscriber countries. So, it&#8217;s an unelected government?</p>
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		<title>By: Miss_X2b</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss_X2b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Ireland!!  Long live Ireland!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Ireland!!  Long live Ireland!!</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Irish need to put a shillelagh where Sarkozy can&#039;t see it, but where he will certainly feel it !!!  And the Irish should demand that the other EU Partners also have citizens referendums on the question !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Irish need to put a shillelagh where Sarkozy can&#8217;t see it, but where he will certainly feel it !!!  And the Irish should demand that the other EU Partners also have citizens referendums on the question !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irish ministers have reacted robustly to the French president’s

It&#039;s aboot damn time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irish ministers have reacted robustly to the French president’s</p>
<p>It&#8217;s aboot damn time!</p>
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