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	<title>Comments on: The Untouchables &#8211; Obama and Michelle?</title>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/18/the-untouchables-obama-and-michelle/comment-page-4/#comment-1256414</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#66 - Mr. Fusion,

No no no. There are three types of people in the world, those who can count and those who cannot.

Or was it this? There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who do not.</description>
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<p>No no no. There are three types of people in the world, those who can count and those who cannot.</p>
<p>Or was it this? There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/18/the-untouchables-obama-and-michelle/comment-page-4/#comment-1255917</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#65, Scott,

I thought there were three types of people. Those who divide the world into two types of people and everyone else.</description>
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<p>I thought there were three types of people. Those who divide the world into two types of people and everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/18/the-untouchables-obama-and-michelle/comment-page-4/#comment-1255269</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#64 - fulanoche,

If that makes a difference to you, then you are a racist. For the rest of us, who cares? He&#039;s by far the better option for president. And, he can not only pronounce the names of foreign countries, he can even pronounce nuclear!!

Back to the African-American question though, pick up a book on evolution. Humans evolved in Africa. Therefore, we are all African in origin. So, there are 300 million African-Americans, plus a whole lot of African-Europeans, African-Asians, African-Canadians, African-Latin-Americans, African-etc.

Does that answer the question?

Remember, there are two types of people in the world, those who divide the world into two types of people and those who do not. Let&#039;s try to stay in the latter group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#64 &#8211; fulanoche,</p>
<p>If that makes a difference to you, then you are a racist. For the rest of us, who cares? He&#8217;s by far the better option for president. And, he can not only pronounce the names of foreign countries, he can even pronounce nuclear!!</p>
<p>Back to the African-American question though, pick up a book on evolution. Humans evolved in Africa. Therefore, we are all African in origin. So, there are 300 million African-Americans, plus a whole lot of African-Europeans, African-Asians, African-Canadians, African-Latin-Americans, African-etc.</p>
<p>Does that answer the question?</p>
<p>Remember, there are two types of people in the world, those who divide the world into two types of people and those who do not. Let&#8217;s try to stay in the latter group.</p>
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		<title>By: fulanoche</title>
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		<dc:creator>fulanoche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama--African-American

Isn&#039;t he White African-American?</description>
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<p>Isn&#8217;t he White African-American?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/18/the-untouchables-obama-and-michelle/comment-page-4/#comment-1254506</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote Pedro for President... NOT (in my best Borat voice).</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/18/the-untouchables-obama-and-michelle/comment-page-4/#comment-1254346</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#61, pedro,

It&#039;s you.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s you.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me or this diatribe became stale?</description>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57 - bobbo,

&lt;i&gt;#55–Scott==what has you all junked up about the electoral college?&lt;/i&gt;

The fact that my vote doesn&#039;t count at all in practice or as much as many other people&#039;s even in theory is a huge part of it. My state is often a landslide. Why vote? Democracy means one person one vote, not one Wyomingite is worth four Texans.

Clearly land doesn&#039;t vote. If land voted, it sure as hell wouldn&#039;t vote to be raped and pillaged. So, people vote; land does not.

&lt;i&gt;Its a constitutional provision requiring 2/3rds (?) of the States to approve a change. Given there is an annual transfer of wealth from the top 50% richer states to the bottom 50% poorer states and most of the poorer states are smaller states, what makes you think there is any chance at all for such a power shift ever being voluntarily agreed to?&lt;/i&gt;

Interestingly, that is merely an argument of hopelessness, not an argument that the electoral college is correct or fair.

&lt;i&gt;Its like gun control. A bad law that our country is based on with lots of politicians holding onto it for dear life as a protection against common sense and political equal representation.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not seeing the correlation.

&lt;i&gt;Do away with electoral college and you will do away with the State Structure of the USA. You can argue the pro’s and con’s of that, but not the likelihood that it will ever be done.&lt;/i&gt;

True and true. But, do you then argue that because something bad is hard to change that we should not try? I think you may be being even more defeatist and pessimistic than me.

&lt;i&gt;Why not argue against gravity==shouldn’t it be less?&lt;/i&gt;

I think we don&#039;t get to vote on the physical constants of the universe, so this may be just a tad of a red herring.

#58 - Stephanie,

&lt;i&gt;I haven’t heard of anyone protesting anything here. Oh how that frustrates me!&lt;/i&gt;

Damn!! Sorry to hear that. I thought/hoped that a state like Texas would have been the perfect place for such a movement to start. You guys get hit even harder than we do here in New York and you don&#039;t have the hatred from middle America that New York and California do.

&lt;i&gt;I live in Arlington which I do believe is the largest city in America without public transportation. Somehow the taxpayers didn’t want to pony up any money up for that but yet they voted to help fund a new MEGA stadium for the Dallas Cowboys. Are they going to be called the Arlington Cowboys!?! What do you think…&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry for my tendency to answer rhetorical questions. I think that I couldn&#039;t care less about the names of teams, NJ Giants vs NY Giants when they play in NJ, I couldn&#039;t care less. What do I think? I think we have more important matters. I think you should get your public transportation.

&lt;i&gt;Sometimes people only learn the hard way.&lt;/i&gt;

Unfortunately, that is the only way most people learn, if they learn at all. Let&#039;s see if we can learn the hard way before it&#039;s too late.

Anyway, it gives me hope to hear a sane voice from the &quot;red states&quot;, as if we needed to define our nation along such lines. Perhaps the powers that be like to divide us into red/blue to divide and conquer. Who knows? I&#039;m sure we all have a lot more in common than we have differences if we could look at what&#039;s really important and stop getting caught up in all the BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57 &#8211; bobbo,</p>
<p><i>#55–Scott==what has you all junked up about the electoral college?</i></p>
<p>The fact that my vote doesn&#8217;t count at all in practice or as much as many other people&#8217;s even in theory is a huge part of it. My state is often a landslide. Why vote? Democracy means one person one vote, not one Wyomingite is worth four Texans.</p>
<p>Clearly land doesn&#8217;t vote. If land voted, it sure as hell wouldn&#8217;t vote to be raped and pillaged. So, people vote; land does not.</p>
<p><i>Its a constitutional provision requiring 2/3rds (?) of the States to approve a change. Given there is an annual transfer of wealth from the top 50% richer states to the bottom 50% poorer states and most of the poorer states are smaller states, what makes you think there is any chance at all for such a power shift ever being voluntarily agreed to?</i></p>
<p>Interestingly, that is merely an argument of hopelessness, not an argument that the electoral college is correct or fair.</p>
<p><i>Its like gun control. A bad law that our country is based on with lots of politicians holding onto it for dear life as a protection against common sense and political equal representation.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not seeing the correlation.</p>
<p><i>Do away with electoral college and you will do away with the State Structure of the USA. You can argue the pro’s and con’s of that, but not the likelihood that it will ever be done.</i></p>
<p>True and true. But, do you then argue that because something bad is hard to change that we should not try? I think you may be being even more defeatist and pessimistic than me.</p>
<p><i>Why not argue against gravity==shouldn’t it be less?</i></p>
<p>I think we don&#8217;t get to vote on the physical constants of the universe, so this may be just a tad of a red herring.</p>
<p>#58 &#8211; Stephanie,</p>
<p><i>I haven’t heard of anyone protesting anything here. Oh how that frustrates me!</i></p>
<p>Damn!! Sorry to hear that. I thought/hoped that a state like Texas would have been the perfect place for such a movement to start. You guys get hit even harder than we do here in New York and you don&#8217;t have the hatred from middle America that New York and California do.</p>
<p><i>I live in Arlington which I do believe is the largest city in America without public transportation. Somehow the taxpayers didn’t want to pony up any money up for that but yet they voted to help fund a new MEGA stadium for the Dallas Cowboys. Are they going to be called the Arlington Cowboys!?! What do you think…</i></p>
<p>Sorry for my tendency to answer rhetorical questions. I think that I couldn&#8217;t care less about the names of teams, NJ Giants vs NY Giants when they play in NJ, I couldn&#8217;t care less. What do I think? I think we have more important matters. I think you should get your public transportation.</p>
<p><i>Sometimes people only learn the hard way.</i></p>
<p>Unfortunately, that is the only way most people learn, if they learn at all. Let&#8217;s see if we can learn the hard way before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>Anyway, it gives me hope to hear a sane voice from the &#8220;red states&#8221;, as if we needed to define our nation along such lines. Perhaps the powers that be like to divide us into red/blue to divide and conquer. Who knows? I&#8217;m sure we all have a lot more in common than we have differences if we could look at what&#8217;s really important and stop getting caught up in all the BS.</p>
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		<title>By: brendal</title>
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		<dc:creator>brendal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad U.S.</description>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/07/18/the-untouchables-obama-and-michelle/comment-page-3/#comment-1252438</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misanthropic Scott,

I haven&#039;t heard of anyone protesting anything here. Oh how that frustrates me! 

I live in Arlington which I do believe is the largest city in America without public transportation. Somehow the taxpayers didn&#039;t want to pony up any money up for that but yet they voted to help fund a new MEGA stadium for the Dallas Cowboys. Are they going to be called the Arlington Cowboys!?! What do you think...

So people are up in arms here when gas is now getting close to $4 a gallon but they voted to pay for football rather than mass transit. Sometimes people only learn the hard way. Not many people will be able to even pay for a seat at the new stadium. 

Until people are really hurting (which is getting closer everyday) they don&#039;t do anything about pushing out the &quot;good ol&#039; boy clubs&quot; out of office. 

I sense a slow but sure shift here in conservative land. When those middle class turned poor conservatives are now hurting for aid that no longer exists due to tax cuts, they will end up changing their minds. 

Disclaimer - I am a Texan, born here and live here but I did spend 11 years in Southern California. 

I do enjoy not paying state income tax though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misanthropic Scott,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t heard of anyone protesting anything here. Oh how that frustrates me! </p>
<p>I live in Arlington which I do believe is the largest city in America without public transportation. Somehow the taxpayers didn&#8217;t want to pony up any money up for that but yet they voted to help fund a new MEGA stadium for the Dallas Cowboys. Are they going to be called the Arlington Cowboys!?! What do you think&#8230;</p>
<p>So people are up in arms here when gas is now getting close to $4 a gallon but they voted to pay for football rather than mass transit. Sometimes people only learn the hard way. Not many people will be able to even pay for a seat at the new stadium. </p>
<p>Until people are really hurting (which is getting closer everyday) they don&#8217;t do anything about pushing out the &#8220;good ol&#8217; boy clubs&#8221; out of office. </p>
<p>I sense a slow but sure shift here in conservative land. When those middle class turned poor conservatives are now hurting for aid that no longer exists due to tax cuts, they will end up changing their minds. </p>
<p>Disclaimer &#8211; I am a Texan, born here and live here but I did spend 11 years in Southern California. </p>
<p>I do enjoy not paying state income tax though.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#55--Scott==what has you all junked up about the electoral college?  Its a constitutional provision requiring 2/3rds (?) of the States to approve a change.  Given there is an annual transfer of wealth from the top 50% richer states to the bottom 50% poorer states and most of the poorer states are smaller states, what makes you think there is any chance at all for such a power shift ever being voluntarily agreed to?

Its like gun control.  A bad law that our country is based on with lots of politicians holding onto it for dear life as a protection against common sense and political equal representation.  Do away with electoral college and you will do away with the State Structure of the USA.  You can argue the pro&#039;s and con&#039;s of that, but not the likelihood that it will ever be done.  

Why not argue against gravity==shouldn&#039;t it be less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#55&#8211;Scott==what has you all junked up about the electoral college?  Its a constitutional provision requiring 2/3rds (?) of the States to approve a change.  Given there is an annual transfer of wealth from the top 50% richer states to the bottom 50% poorer states and most of the poorer states are smaller states, what makes you think there is any chance at all for such a power shift ever being voluntarily agreed to?</p>
<p>Its like gun control.  A bad law that our country is based on with lots of politicians holding onto it for dear life as a protection against common sense and political equal representation.  Do away with electoral college and you will do away with the State Structure of the USA.  You can argue the pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s of that, but not the likelihood that it will ever be done.  </p>
<p>Why not argue against gravity==shouldn&#8217;t it be less?</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 - gquaglia,

&lt;i&gt;Of course they are untouchable, their black. And just like with every other minority, if you say some negative about them, true or not, you are labeled a racist.&lt;/i&gt;

Um ... actually, if you say anything bad about any group as a whole (in the majority or the minority) rather than individuals, that is the definition of racism, if the group is a race, or bigotry either way.

Now, how can atheists get this protection. No one seems to have any qualms about showing open and blatant disrespect and discrimination of atheists. And, no one ever calls the discriminatory induhviduals bigots.

So, actually, you may be incorrect about this being true of any minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 &#8211; gquaglia,</p>
<p><i>Of course they are untouchable, their black. And just like with every other minority, if you say some negative about them, true or not, you are labeled a racist.</i></p>
<p>Um &#8230; actually, if you say anything bad about any group as a whole (in the majority or the minority) rather than individuals, that is the definition of racism, if the group is a race, or bigotry either way.</p>
<p>Now, how can atheists get this protection. No one seems to have any qualms about showing open and blatant disrespect and discrimination of atheists. And, no one ever calls the discriminatory induhviduals bigots.</p>
<p>So, actually, you may be incorrect about this being true of any minority.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22 - Stephanie,

Very well said. I knew there were people with brains in Texas ... just not in the Bush family.

&lt;off-topic&gt;
I&#039;m just curious though, as a Texan with a brain, how do you feel about the fact that your vote counts less than those of every other state? Texas is even worse than California and New York. It takes four votes in Texas to equal just one vote in Wyoming.

Is there any movement in Texas to abolish the electoral college?
&lt;/off-topic&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22 &#8211; Stephanie,</p>
<p>Very well said. I knew there were people with brains in Texas &#8230; just not in the Bush family.</p>
<p>&lt;off-topic&gt;<br />
I&#8217;m just curious though, as a Texan with a brain, how do you feel about the fact that your vote counts less than those of every other state? Texas is even worse than California and New York. It takes four votes in Texas to equal just one vote in Wyoming.</p>
<p>Is there any movement in Texas to abolish the electoral college?<br />
&lt;/off-topic&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 - Mr. Fusion,

&lt;i&gt;McCain sleeps with Phil Gramm. Remember the guy partly responsible for $4 gas? Remember Enron? Remember the banks and their bailouts?&lt;/i&gt;

Excellent point!! But, don&#039;t forget that Gramm is actually not only responsible for the bailouts but for the laws allowing the banks to do whatever they wanted with CDOs, CMOs, and credit default swaps without even the oversight to make sure that those providing the credit default swaps, a form of insurance, actually had the money to provide the insurance.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Foreclosure Phil&lt;/a&gt; is even worse than you say.

And, remember, McCain claims to have no financial experience. So, he hires Foreclosure Phil as his financial adviser. Good idea. At least it shows he was being totally honest when he said he did not understand finance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 &#8211; Mr. Fusion,</p>
<p><i>McCain sleeps with Phil Gramm. Remember the guy partly responsible for $4 gas? Remember Enron? Remember the banks and their bailouts?</i></p>
<p>Excellent point!! But, don&#8217;t forget that Gramm is actually not only responsible for the bailouts but for the laws allowing the banks to do whatever they wanted with CDOs, CMOs, and credit default swaps without even the oversight to make sure that those providing the credit default swaps, a form of insurance, actually had the money to provide the insurance.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Foreclosure Phil</a> is even worse than you say.</p>
<p>And, remember, McCain claims to have no financial experience. So, he hires Foreclosure Phil as his financial adviser. Good idea. At least it shows he was being totally honest when he said he did not understand finance.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3, 6, Matt &amp; John C. Dvorak,

I think the real issue is that the press is giving McBush a free ride on the actual issues. Forget about old or black. McCain is saying amazingly stupid things and no one is calling him on them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs-LqhK-c4Y

http://www.newsweek.com/id/114548

So, did anyone actually bother to read what was inside the New Yorker?

Check out this article about &quot;flip-flopping&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/07/21/080721taco_talk_hertzberg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flip-Flop Flap&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3, 6, Matt &amp; John C. Dvorak,</p>
<p>I think the real issue is that the press is giving McBush a free ride on the actual issues. Forget about old or black. McCain is saying amazingly stupid things and no one is calling him on them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs-LqhK-c4Y" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs-LqhK-c4Y' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs-LqhK-c4Y</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/114548" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.newsweek.com/id/114548' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.newsweek.com/id/114548</a></p>
<p>So, did anyone actually bother to read what was inside the New Yorker?</p>
<p>Check out this article about &#8220;flip-flopping&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/07/21/080721taco_talk_hertzberg" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Flip-Flop Flap</a></p>
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