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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1280588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18, iHotAir,

Is the EPA stopping them or the local wing nut crowd who don&#039;t want the visual blight. 

I notice several people will stand up and say &quot;They are doing this&quot; but they won&#039;t mention the name of the supposed site. Yet they suggest it is an innocent person, group, or agency to blame.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18, iHotAir,</p>
<p>Is the EPA stopping them or the local wing nut crowd who don&#8217;t want the visual blight. </p>
<p>I notice several people will stand up and say &#8220;They are doing this&#8221; but they won&#8217;t mention the name of the supposed site. Yet they suggest it is an innocent person, group, or agency to blame.</p>
<p>Morans</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1279555</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was STANDARD practive to install a 1-2K windmill on EVERY HOME...we could solve about 25% of energy problems..
If we used them in the PROPER/best LOCATIONS we could do 40+% very easy.

the MAIn problems come from Corps/big buildings/HEAVY machines...THOSe suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was STANDARD practive to install a 1-2K windmill on EVERY HOME&#8230;we could solve about 25% of energy problems..<br />
If we used them in the PROPER/best LOCATIONS we could do 40+% very easy.</p>
<p>the MAIn problems come from Corps/big buildings/HEAVY machines&#8230;THOSe suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: BigCarbonFoot</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1279330</link>
		<dc:creator>BigCarbonFoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a wind farm being blocked not 30 mi. from where I live and at least two more in SW MN.  

Personally, I&#039;m all for it.  I want wind turbines everywhere.  I want nuke plants everywhere.  I want oil wells everywhere.  I want coal plants everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a wind farm being blocked not 30 mi. from where I live and at least two more in SW MN.  </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m all for it.  I want wind turbines everywhere.  I want nuke plants everywhere.  I want oil wells everywhere.  I want coal plants everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1279232</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11, Cow-Paddy

... &lt;i&gt;the Repubs battled to get nuc power going, only to be opposed by the dems and enviro wacko’s. &lt;/i&gt;

Please, please, name ONE nuclear power plant the Democrats blocked. Then tell us which nuclear power plants the Repubs battled to start. You imply the responsible media ignored this so please set us straight.

The Department of Commerce oversees the licensing of nuclear plants. Since Three Mile Island, there have been 19 years of Republican Commerce Secretaries and only 9 years of Democrat Commerce Secretaries. Sure sounds to me like the Republicans could have battled a little harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11, Cow-Paddy</p>
<p>&#8230; <i>the Repubs battled to get nuc power going, only to be opposed by the dems and enviro wacko’s. </i></p>
<p>Please, please, name ONE nuclear power plant the Democrats blocked. Then tell us which nuclear power plants the Repubs battled to start. You imply the responsible media ignored this so please set us straight.</p>
<p>The Department of Commerce oversees the licensing of nuclear plants. Since Three Mile Island, there have been 19 years of Republican Commerce Secretaries and only 9 years of Democrat Commerce Secretaries. Sure sounds to me like the Republicans could have battled a little harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1279224</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8, Bill,

&lt;i&gt;Name ONE wind farm where the EPA, NRC, or tree huggers have restricted or hindered the application. &lt;/i&gt;

So the local municipalities are the EPA? Nor would these local people count as extreme environmentalists, or tree huggers in your parlance. 

So would you care to name ONE wind farm the EPA or tree huggers have stopped?

&lt;i&gt;I would guess that most of these people are of the “no more oil” persuasion also. &lt;/i&gt;

And most guesses are lacking in facts. The tourists businesses are fighting the wind farms there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, Bill,</p>
<p><i>Name ONE wind farm where the EPA, NRC, or tree huggers have restricted or hindered the application. </i></p>
<p>So the local municipalities are the EPA? Nor would these local people count as extreme environmentalists, or tree huggers in your parlance. </p>
<p>So would you care to name ONE wind farm the EPA or tree huggers have stopped?</p>
<p><i>I would guess that most of these people are of the “no more oil” persuasion also. </i></p>
<p>And most guesses are lacking in facts. The tourists businesses are fighting the wind farms there.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1279211</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is going to be fun to watch all you folks DEBATING/BITCHING about..

1. we will PROBABLY NEVER leave Afghanistan.
2. we will NEVER fully LEAVE IRAQ.
3. the rules/regulations/requirements and site EVALUATIONS for any power plant, solar, wind, water, wave, tide, has a STARTUP cost in the $10,000,000 price range to even START.
4. USA OIL has MORE tax on it then IMPORTED OIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be fun to watch all you folks DEBATING/BITCHING about..</p>
<p>1. we will PROBABLY NEVER leave Afghanistan.<br />
2. we will NEVER fully LEAVE IRAQ.<br />
3. the rules/regulations/requirements and site EVALUATIONS for any power plant, solar, wind, water, wave, tide, has a STARTUP cost in the $10,000,000 price range to even START.<br />
4. USA OIL has MORE tax on it then IMPORTED OIL.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278699</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When was the last US nuclear power plant opened?
How does this compare with other countries?

What does any of this, or the post, have to do with the headline drilling in Afghanistan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was the last US nuclear power plant opened?<br />
How does this compare with other countries?</p>
<p>What does any of this, or the post, have to do with the headline drilling in Afghanistan?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278694</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NIMBYism is gonna kill us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIMBYism is gonna kill us.</p>
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		<title>By: GigG</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278496</link>
		<dc:creator>GigG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 &quot;Currently there are at least 30 nuclear generating plants in the application stage.&quot;

And of that 30 only 3 have even been given &quot;early site approval.&quot; 

http://tinyurl.com/6xksqa

At the above link follow the links and see how it has taken 2 years for a site to even get that far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 &#8220;Currently there are at least 30 nuclear generating plants in the application stage.&#8221;</p>
<p>And of that 30 only 3 have even been given &#8220;early site approval.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6xksqa" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/6xksqa' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/6xksqa</a></p>
<p>At the above link follow the links and see how it has taken 2 years for a site to even get that far.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278402</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Friedman said, &quot;Republicans, by mindlessly repeating their offshore-drilling mantra, focusing on a 19th-century fuel, remind me of someone back in 1980...&quot;

He must have gone into a coma during the last 30 years as the Repubs battled to get nuc power going, only to be opposed by the dems and enviro wacko&#039;s.  But, journalists shouldn&#039;t let facts get in the way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Friedman said, &#8220;Republicans, by mindlessly repeating their offshore-drilling mantra, focusing on a 19th-century fuel, remind me of someone back in 1980&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>He must have gone into a coma during the last 30 years as the Repubs battled to get nuc power going, only to be opposed by the dems and enviro wacko&#8217;s.  But, journalists shouldn&#8217;t let facts get in the way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BillM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8 Mr Fusion

Sorry, MF. Check the newspapers out of Buffalo and Rochester NY. Two or three times a week there are stories of local towns passing ordinances to stop wind farm construction in the area. We are located in fairly windy part of the country due to the proximity to Lakes Erie and Ontario. There have been numerous attempts to build wind farms in the area. The nut jobs have come out of the woodwork with the usual cries; &quot;Save the birds&quot;, &quot;I didn&#039;t move to the country to look at some damn wind turbine&quot;, &quot;The constant flicker causes epileptic fits&quot;. Most of the surrounding towns have passed zoning ordinances stopping the construction until &quot;further studies show them to be safe&quot;. 

Also, although I don&#039;t have details at hand, it seems as though the folks on Martha&#039;s Vineyard and Nantucket are fighting tooth-and-nail to stop an off-shore wind farm from being developed. I would guess that most of these people are of the &quot;no more oil&quot; persuasion also.

People are always in favor of these projects as long as they have no effect on their own life style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 Mr Fusion</p>
<p>Sorry, MF. Check the newspapers out of Buffalo and Rochester NY. Two or three times a week there are stories of local towns passing ordinances to stop wind farm construction in the area. We are located in fairly windy part of the country due to the proximity to Lakes Erie and Ontario. There have been numerous attempts to build wind farms in the area. The nut jobs have come out of the woodwork with the usual cries; &#8220;Save the birds&#8221;, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t move to the country to look at some damn wind turbine&#8221;, &#8220;The constant flicker causes epileptic fits&#8221;. Most of the surrounding towns have passed zoning ordinances stopping the construction until &#8220;further studies show them to be safe&#8221;. </p>
<p>Also, although I don&#8217;t have details at hand, it seems as though the folks on Martha&#8217;s Vineyard and Nantucket are fighting tooth-and-nail to stop an off-shore wind farm from being developed. I would guess that most of these people are of the &#8220;no more oil&#8221; persuasion also.</p>
<p>People are always in favor of these projects as long as they have no effect on their own life style.</p>
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		<title>By: ubiquitous talking head</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278257</link>
		<dc:creator>ubiquitous talking head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;we should be putting all our money into making more and cheaper IBM Selectric typewriters

Hey, I can get you some, cheap&lt;/i&gt;

Really?  I would like a wide-carriage Selectric-I (not that el-cheapo crap II) 

I&#039;ll even pay for shipping if you throw in some extra balls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>we should be putting all our money into making more and cheaper IBM Selectric typewriters</p>
<p>Hey, I can get you some, cheap</i></p>
<p>Really?  I would like a wide-carriage Selectric-I (not that el-cheapo crap II) </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll even pay for shipping if you throw in some extra balls.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278254</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3, Stu,

Bullshit, more bullshit, and even more bullshit. Have you been reading too many of Lyin&#039; Mike&#039;s posts?

Currently there are at least &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nei.org/resourcesandstats/documentlibrary/newplants/graphicsandcharts/newnuclearplantstatus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;30 nuclear generating plants&lt;/a&gt; in the application stage.

Name ONE wind farm where the EPA, NRC, or tree huggers have restricted or hindered the application.

Name ONE dam that has been denied that would not have caused serious environmental damage in its own right.

The EPA has never ordered anyone to restore the surface better than what it was. Maybe you could name this mine so we could research it a little more. This is a common accusation made by those who want to rape the earth, despoil the land, and walk away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3, Stu,</p>
<p>Bullshit, more bullshit, and even more bullshit. Have you been reading too many of Lyin&#8217; Mike&#8217;s posts?</p>
<p>Currently there are at least <a href="http://www.nei.org/resourcesandstats/documentlibrary/newplants/graphicsandcharts/newnuclearplantstatus" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">30 nuclear generating plants</a> in the application stage.</p>
<p>Name ONE wind farm where the EPA, NRC, or tree huggers have restricted or hindered the application.</p>
<p>Name ONE dam that has been denied that would not have caused serious environmental damage in its own right.</p>
<p>The EPA has never ordered anyone to restore the surface better than what it was. Maybe you could name this mine so we could research it a little more. This is a common accusation made by those who want to rape the earth, despoil the land, and walk away.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278238</link>
		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Before Democrats adopt “More Troops to Afghanistan” as their bumper sticker, they need to make sure it’s a strategy for winning a war — not an election...&quot;

&lt;b&gt;
Agree, but Americans are simpletons. Describing how energy independence leads us out of the middle east, creates jobs here in the US and cleans up the environment is too much.  

Furthermore, the Republicans will continue to drag the conversation away from what&#039;s good for America to whatever Karl Rove has in his slime lab.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Before Democrats adopt “More Troops to Afghanistan” as their bumper sticker, they need to make sure it’s a strategy for winning a war — not an election&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><b><br />
Agree, but Americans are simpletons. Describing how energy independence leads us out of the middle east, creates jobs here in the US and cleans up the environment is too much.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, the Republicans will continue to drag the conversation away from what&#8217;s good for America to whatever Karl Rove has in his slime lab.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/01/drilling-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-1278223</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

&lt;i&gt;we should be putting all our money into making more and cheaper IBM Selectric typewriters &lt;/i&gt;

Hey, I can get you some, cheap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p><i>we should be putting all our money into making more and cheaper IBM Selectric typewriters </i></p>
<p>Hey, I can get you some, cheap</p>
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