Comments on: Chip yourself! Satellites track you after you’re kidnapped in Mexico… http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:30:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mikey http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-2/#comment-1365613 mikey Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:31:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1365613 "Continuing with #20, skeptic. Why not just use a cell phone with GPS?" looks like they are charging big bux for a cell phone with the company phone number preprogrammed in it. the bad guys throw away the cell phone at point of abduction, and the person is still screwed “Continuing with #20, skeptic. Why not just use a cell phone with GPS?”

looks like they are charging big bux for a cell phone with the company phone number preprogrammed in it.

the bad guys throw away the cell phone at point of abduction, and the person is still screwed

]]> By: Burke http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-2/#comment-1321595 Burke Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:45:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1321595 Wow, it's only been written about 2K years ago.. but still nobody will listen. Baaaa sheep, Baaaaa. Once it's "forced" (yeah, it will be) will you do it? :/ Wow, it’s only been written about 2K years ago.. but still nobody will listen.

Baaaa sheep, Baaaaa.

Once it’s “forced” (yeah, it will be) will you do it?

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]]> By: Glenn E. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-2/#comment-1315302 Glenn E. Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:22:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1315302 I had a similar idea for an updated version of Tv's "Search" series (1971). Where the agents would have implant devices, that would communicate via a booster device they carried, to cellphone towers. A much more realistic idea than before, when a coin sized camera worked thru satellite links. No Way! I had a similar idea for an updated version of Tv’s “Search” series (1971). Where the agents would have implant devices, that would communicate via a booster device they carried, to cellphone towers. A much more realistic idea than before, when a coin sized camera worked thru satellite links. No Way!

]]> By: RonD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-2/#comment-1314769 RonD Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:18:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1314769 #23 JimD - in that case they are totally screwed, unless they happen to know someone like the character Denzel Washington played in "Man on Fire" who can come to their rescue. :) #23 JimD – in that case they are totally screwed, unless they happen to know someone like the character Denzel Washington played in “Man on Fire” who can come to their rescue. :)

]]> By: JimD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-2/#comment-1314495 JimD Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:10:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1314495 #5 Ron - “Customers who fear they are being kidnapped press a panic button on an external device to alert Xega which then calls the police.” But what if the POLICE ***ARE THE KIDNAPPERS*** AS IN MEXICO ??? And of course, getting "Chipped" ANNOUNCES TO THE POLICE THAT YOU ARE RICH ENOUGH TO FEAR KIDNAPPERS, THUS MAKING YOU A TARGET !!! #5 Ron – “Customers who fear they are being kidnapped press a panic button on an external device to alert Xega which then calls the police.”

But what if the POLICE ***ARE THE KIDNAPPERS*** AS IN MEXICO ???

And of course, getting “Chipped” ANNOUNCES TO THE POLICE THAT YOU ARE RICH ENOUGH TO FEAR KIDNAPPERS, THUS MAKING YOU A TARGET !!!

]]> By: Olo Baggins of Bywater http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-2/#comment-1314045 Olo Baggins of Bywater Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:44:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1314045 The inductive coupling is necessary because higher frequencies don't transmit through flesh. That limits them to transmission in inches, as others mentioned. Typically the range is more like a singular inch, especially if you implant it deeper than just under the skin. #12...those long distances are the UHF versions, not the implantables. The inductive coupling is necessary because higher frequencies don’t transmit through flesh. That limits them to transmission in inches, as others mentioned. Typically the range is more like a singular inch, especially if you implant it deeper than just under the skin.

#12…those long distances are the UHF versions, not the implantables.

]]> By: Ah_Yea http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-2/#comment-1314031 Ah_Yea Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:22:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1314031 Continuing with #20, skeptic. Why not just use a cell phone with GPS? Apparently RonD got it right and the external device is the actual transmitter. But if that is the case, a simple cell phone would work just as well. Continuing with #20, skeptic. Why not just use a cell phone with GPS?

Apparently RonD got it right and the external device is the actual transmitter. But if that is the case, a simple cell phone would work just as well.

]]> By: skeptic-al http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1314010 skeptic-al Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:02:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1314010 Sloppy editing in most versions of this story. CNET says: "The company injects the crystal-encased chip, the size and shape of a grain of rice, into clients' bodies with a syringe. A transmitter then sends signals via satellite to pinpoint the location of a person in distress." But REUTERS says: "The company injects the crystal-encased chip, the size and shape of a grain of rice, into clients' bodies with a syringe. A transmitter in the chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it, Xega says. A satellite can then pinpoint the location of a person in distress." The REUTERS version makes more sense, power wise. But why not just carry the larger device and trigger that? How does the injected chip help? Sloppy editing in most versions of this story. CNET says: “The company injects the crystal-encased chip, the size and shape of a grain of rice, into clients’ bodies with a syringe. A transmitter then sends signals via satellite to pinpoint the location of a person in distress.”

But REUTERS says: “The company injects the crystal-encased chip, the size and shape of a grain of rice, into clients’ bodies with a syringe. A transmitter in the chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it, Xega says. A satellite can then pinpoint the location of a person in distress.”

The REUTERS version makes more sense, power wise. But why not just carry the larger device and trigger that? How does the injected chip help?

]]> By: RonD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1313993 RonD Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:49:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1313993 My guess is that the "external device with panic button" mentioned in the article reads the info from the RFID implant. The external device then transmits it to the satellite. Would be nice if there were a picture of the external device. My guess is that the “external device with panic button” mentioned in the article reads the info from the RFID implant. The external device then transmits it to the satellite. Would be nice if there were a picture of the external device.

]]> By: RSweeney http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1313970 RSweeney Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:23:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1313970 followup - ALL of the images in these websites in this thread are of TI TIRIS low frequency implantable passive transponders. The coil of wire seen in the transponders is a magnetic near field antenna, which must couple inductively. Inches, not miles. followup – ALL of the images in these websites in this thread are of TI TIRIS low frequency implantable passive transponders. The coil of wire seen in the transponders is a magnetic near field antenna, which must couple inductively.

Inches, not miles.

]]> By: RSweeney http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1313960 RSweeney Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:10:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1313960 I am calling BS on this one. The Verichip sold by Xega is a near-field device made by TI originally for livestock id, readable at inches not miles. One would need a cellphone sized device to get enough power and a antenna gain to hit an LEO satellite. I am calling BS on this one. The Verichip sold by Xega is a near-field device made by TI originally for livestock id, readable at inches not miles.

One would need a cellphone sized device to get enough power and a antenna gain to hit an LEO satellite.

]]> By: green http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1313918 green Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:08:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1313918 I thought RFID chips drew power from the radio waves bouncing off them so they never required a battery source :/ I thought RFID chips drew power from the radio waves bouncing off them so they never required a battery source :/

]]> By: Skippy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1313917 Skippy Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:05:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1313917 Bullshit. There's no way this thing works. You'd need an external antenna to reach a satellite. Bullshit. There’s no way this thing works. You’d need an external antenna to reach a satellite.

]]> By: Steve S http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1313869 Steve S Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:00:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1313869 # 6 joe said, "In Mexico they cut off your fingers and send them to the family as proof that your being held for ransom. If they cut off your fingers, they won’t flinch at cutting up the rest of you." Maybe you could place a larger model deep inside your nose. Could hurt a bit taking it out though. http://tinyurl.com/5z7ymy From "Total Recall" # 6 joe said,
“In Mexico they cut off your fingers and send them to the family as proof that your being held for ransom. If they cut off your fingers, they won’t flinch at cutting up the rest of you.”

Maybe you could place a larger model deep inside your nose.
Could hurt a bit taking it out though.

http://tinyurl.com/5z7ymy
From “Total Recall”

]]> By: GigG http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/21/chip-yourself-satellites-track-you-after-you%e2%80%99re-kidnapped-in-mexico%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1313850 GigG Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:47:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=21591#comment-1313850 Go to this site. After reading about it scroll down to the order button there is a little note there. http://www.lightninggps.com/personal-tracking/gps-implant.html Go to this site. After reading about it scroll down to the order button there is a little note there.

http://www.lightninggps.com/personal-tracking/gps-implant.html

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