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Environmental Capital – WSJ.com : Fuel for Debate: Pelosi Suggests Natural Gas Isn’t a Fossil Fuel — Can you imagine if Bush said something like this. Even he knows better.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi seemed to suggest in a television interview Sunday that natural gas isn’t a fossil fuel.
From the post on the Journal’s Washington Wire by Journal reporter John D. McKinnon:
On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, the speaker twice seemed to suggest that natural gas – an energy source she favors – is not a fossil fuel.
“I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels,” she said at one point. Natural gas “is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels,” she said at another.
Rep. Pelosi’s spokesman later said the speaker knows natural gas is a fossil fuel, but likes it because it burns more cleanly than coal and oil.
hhopper, maybe you should post a picture of Cloris Leachman if you want to send Mustard over the top.
#21 – Cubie
>>hhopper, maybe you should post a picture of Cloris
>>Leachman if you want to send Mustard over the top.
If you don’t think Nance is a hottie, you must either prefer young boys or barnyard animals.
I’m sure the stuff is abundant and cheap where she is.
It is less cheap when you buy it nor is the supply unlimited.
There is a staggering amount of it in ice on the sea floor but nobody has been able to make us of any of that yet.
#14, Mr. Jay,
Mr. Fusion, what exactly do you consider coal?
That would be a solid fossil fuel. I fail to see the relevancy to your question as it should be evident to anyone with a room temperature IQ, so I will skip the obvious and boring explanation of the compacted vegetable matter.
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#9, McCullough
Are we not Fair and Balanced enough for you?
To be truly Fair and Balanced, all the editors would need their teeth capped and use more shellac on their hair. I would also rate the DU editors about 25 to 40 IQ points too high to qualify as worthy of the Fair and Balanced coterie.
#11, Tom
One guy makes bloopers and he’s a moron but if a democrat makes a blooper everyone else is a moron because they couldn’t read her mind.
Ya, so what’s your point? When the Chief Booba Republican makes a gaffe, it is often and usually not easily understood what he is talking about. Here, it is easily understood what was being talked about. Oh, and the Chief Booba Republican is a moran.
#15, Mustard,
Now if only you could be as Fair and Balanced in the religious domain.
Politics are about opinions. The ideas are abstract. With religion it is concrete; it either is or it isn’t. So either the bible is true or it isn’t true Life can not be balanced between that which is true and that which is untrue. Life tends to lean towards the truth.
#17, Mustard,
Aging, like a fine wine.
Or a dried plum.
Sorry to burst your bubble but there is absolutely no proof that oil or natural gas is derived from “fossils”. “Fossil fuel” is a buzz word that first originated decades ago to explain why oil is where it is. However, there is no proof that oil comes from decaying biological matter. Oil and natural gas have ZERO biometric markers to indicate where it came from. It is completely devoid of any biometric indicators. It is abiotic in nature.
Crude oil is made up of natural occurring elements such as carbon, hydrogen, sulphur, nitrogen, oxygen, and trace metals. Oil has been found in very deep wells that have no fossil identifiers whatsoever. How is that possible if it is a “fossil” fuel?
For decades, many scientists have postulated that crude oil is created at the intensely hot layer that separates the Earth’s molten core and the outer crust. The extreme temperatures combined with unimaginably immense pressure fuse the naturally occurring elements into crude oil. This oil eventually bubbles up towards the surface where we can drill down to it and pump it out.
What does this mean? It could mean that crude oil is a naturally existing compound that is infinitely and continuously being created and replenished by the planet.
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Mustard, what was I thinking? Of course, 70 year old face lifted grandmothers are pretty damn hot.
Hermes: Where in Funkytown is the Professor?
Fry: Nothing in here but a couple of elephant skin rugs.
#25 – Fissile One
>>Politics are about opinions. The ideas are abstract.
>>With religion it is concrete; it either is or it >>isn’t.
I think you need to go back to school, Neutrino. Perhaps the nuances of spirituality go beyond what seems to be your third-grade options of TRUE or FALSE. If you think all of Christianity hinges on God being some guy with white hair and a beard, sitting up in the clouds shooting lightning bolts and thunder at the infidels, I feel sorry for your. You’re missing out on one of the richest experiences in life.
>>Or a dried plum.
So. Are you into young boys? Or barnyard animals?
“Fuel for Debate: Pelosi Suggests Natural Gas Isn’t a Fossil Fuel”
She’s not alone. Just Google “oil not from fossil fuel” and take a read.
#26–Mark==that blew me away when I first read about that theory. Course I think coal deposits and shale deposits “look like” they could be huge biosmass transformations, but geologic process makes a whole lot more sense to me==and it could always be a bit of both?
I love the scientific process. First ideas almost always wrong but start the process off to ultimate discovery?
#28–Mustard==good one. Get caught in a contradiction or inconsistency or outright impossibility outside of magic, and you call in a “nuance.”
Hah, hah. Nuance====thats the ticket.
I got off on a rant there. I should clarify my statement that there is good reason to believe that natural gas IS a fossil fuel, although it appears abiotic in nature as well.
However, I think the term fossil fuel is most commonly used to describe crude oil. I think the jury is still out on that one.
#31 – Bobo
>>Get caught in a contradiction or inconsistency or
>>outright impossibility outside of magic, and you
>>call in a “nuance.”
Have you been drinking again, Bobo? Or is it those magic ‘shrooms? What’s the contradiction? What’s the inconsistency? What’s the outright impossiblity?
Or were you just cut ‘n’ pasting from some other reply?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/%22fossile+fuel%22
Main Entry:
fossil fuel
Function:
noun
Date:
1835
: a fuel (as coal, oil, or natural gas) formed in the earth from plant or animal remains
#32 – Mark T.
>>However, I think the term fossil fuel is most
>>commonly used to describe crude oil. I think the
>>jury is still out on that one.
Of course it is, and of course it is.
But we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel here in an effort to make the Dems seem like Bobos, and this technical deviation from dictionary protocol is good for a headline. Kind of pitiful, but true.
Just trying to get this back on topic a bit, as bobbo also seems to be doing. Can anyone point me at an actual report with the full quote in context or a youtube video of her saying this or something.
I think it’s entirely possible that Mr. Mustard had it right in post #7 when he essentially called it a minor flub or some such.
More importantly though, I searched for this and only see it on blogs. Even the link up top is blogs.wsj.com.
Would someone please post a link to a real source? I’d really like to hear or read it in context.
Thanks to anyone who finds it in a real journal rather than on a blog.
#36 – Scottie
If she did, in fact, say this on Meet The Press, I’m sure someone must have YouTube’d it. Context and all.
I was actually watching her for a while on that show, but unfortunately, I had to go out for brunch before this alleged “incident” occurred.
I think it is interesting that Pelosi thinks natural gas is not a fossil fuel and that crude oil is. There is a good chance that she is wrong on both counts.
In the end, you can’t prove either point without drilling a hole down through the Earth’s crust for research purposes. Actually, I would love to see Congress fund a scientific research drilling project through the Earth’s crust to the mantle and beyond. Wishful thinking.
Hey Mark, fossil fuels fall into three broad categories: coal, oil, and ng. What I’m surprised about is that she isn’t thinking about dual burning plants in the short term that use both coal and ng.
Burns hotter, cleaner, and is relatively cheap to convert an old coal fired plant. Gas supply is stable and well service in North America and can supply a large amount of needs until newer technologies come online.
#37 – Mr. Mustard,
That’s what I figured, but couldn’t find it when I googled or when I searched on youtube.