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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1321447</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#65, Fresh Cow-Paddy,
Geeze, you really are stupid. You ask why we don&#039;t jump on the band wagon and support polygamous marriages. Ask some woman trapped in a polygamous marriage if she is married and she will tell you she is – in the eyes of her god.
&lt;i&gt;There are people who have violated the law, and are hiding this from the other spouse. &lt;/i&gt;
That is bigamy. When someone “legally” marries two or more people it is bigamy. When they have two or more spouses it is polygamy. With polygamy the marriages do not have to be registered by the government.

Shit, you are a moran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#65, Fresh Cow-Paddy,<br />
Geeze, you really are stupid. You ask why we don&#8217;t jump on the band wagon and support polygamous marriages. Ask some woman trapped in a polygamous marriage if she is married and she will tell you she is – in the eyes of her god.<br />
<i>There are people who have violated the law, and are hiding this from the other spouse. </i><br />
That is bigamy. When someone “legally” marries two or more people it is bigamy. When they have two or more spouses it is polygamy. With polygamy the marriages do not have to be registered by the government.</p>
<p>Shit, you are a moran.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320286</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#64 &quot;The typical polygamous marriage in the US does not meet those criteria.&quot;

Umm, wrong.  There are no polygamist marriages as they are illegal...  There are people who have violated the law, and are hiding this from the other spouse.

There are those who want this type of marriage but can&#039;t.  Nice try though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#64 &#8220;The typical polygamous marriage in the US does not meet those criteria.&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm, wrong.  There are no polygamist marriages as they are illegal&#8230;  There are people who have violated the law, and are hiding this from the other spouse.</p>
<p>There are those who want this type of marriage but can&#8217;t.  Nice try though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320270</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#58, Cow-Paddy,

&lt;i&gt;I’ve seen polygamy threads here before. Why haven’t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination? &lt;/i&gt;

Marriage requires an informed consent from all parties. That includes all other wives (husbands). The typical polygamous marriage in the US does not meet those criteria.

Underage, brainwashed, trapped, uneducated, and promised wives are more the norm. All control is held by the sole husband.

When we can get past those hurdles then I will start calling for their equal standing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#58, Cow-Paddy,</p>
<p><i>I’ve seen polygamy threads here before. Why haven’t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination? </i></p>
<p>Marriage requires an informed consent from all parties. That includes all other wives (husbands). The typical polygamous marriage in the US does not meet those criteria.</p>
<p>Underage, brainwashed, trapped, uneducated, and promised wives are more the norm. All control is held by the sole husband.</p>
<p>When we can get past those hurdles then I will start calling for their equal standing.</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320253</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy-O, well that&#039;s easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy-O, well that&#8217;s easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320234</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#58 - P.O.

&lt;i&gt;I’ve seen polygamy threads here before. Why haven’t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination?

It’s too easy nailing libs. Like shooting fish in a barrel…&lt;/i&gt;

Yup you nailed me on that one. I don&#039;t always have time to read every thread. That really makes your case ... somehow ... unless it doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#58 &#8211; P.O.</p>
<p><i>I’ve seen polygamy threads here before. Why haven’t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination?</p>
<p>It’s too easy nailing libs. Like shooting fish in a barrel…</i></p>
<p>Yup you nailed me on that one. I don&#8217;t always have time to read every thread. That really makes your case &#8230; somehow &#8230; unless it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320177</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59 &quot;So, as a conservative you’re more interested in government control on this issue?&quot;

Naw, it&#039;s just fun highlighting the hypocrisy of the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59 &#8220;So, as a conservative you’re more interested in government control on this issue?&#8221;</p>
<p>Naw, it&#8217;s just fun highlighting the hypocrisy of the left.</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320163</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#56, bobbo. Congratulations, that was breath-takingly silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#56, bobbo. Congratulations, that was breath-takingly silly.</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320154</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy-O: &quot;Why haven’t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination?

It’s too easy nailing libs.&quot;

So, as a conservative you&#039;re more interested in government control on this issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy-O: &#8220;Why haven’t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination?</p>
<p>It’s too easy nailing libs.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, as a conservative you&#8217;re more interested in government control on this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320138</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#54 &quot;Yes. I would even allow an ass like you to marry.*&quot;

LOL

I&#039;ve seen polygamy threads here before.  Why haven&#039;t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination?

It&#039;s too easy nailing libs. Like shooting fish in a barrel...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#54 &#8220;Yes. I would even allow an ass like you to marry.*&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen polygamy threads here before.  Why haven&#8217;t you been all over it complaining about the discrimination?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too easy nailing libs. Like shooting fish in a barrel&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320129</link>
		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, in Canada we&#039;re a little farther down the road on this issue and when the marriage laws were being appended a few years some actions were in court around this. There are wackos everywhere.

Paddy-O, animals can&#039;t consent, so obviously no. Obviously that brings up another problem. Is meat murder? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, in Canada we&#8217;re a little farther down the road on this issue and when the marriage laws were being appended a few years some actions were in court around this. There are wackos everywhere.</p>
<p>Paddy-O, animals can&#8217;t consent, so obviously no. Obviously that brings up another problem. Is meat murder? <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its amazing.  Lyin Mike is correct on so many issues here.

Gay marriage is a danger to marriage.  Here in California with its recent enforcement by the courts, I had to tell my wifey that our relationship had been torn assunder because of this new law.  How can I stay married to her when Frank and George down the block can get married and act just as wifey and I do?  Its like, it makes ME gay too.  What a terrible assault on my masculinity.

But it does figure that Mikey would get the continuum issue wrong.  My other big jag of course is &quot;its defintional.&quot;  Marriage is defintional.  Once defined, it can be located on several different continuums.  &quot;Degree of ease in getting out&quot; of would be one such continuum.

Mikey is so uniformily stupid though, I have to think he is &quot;mostly&quot; putting us on.  Can anyone really be so retro and still function in society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing.  Lyin Mike is correct on so many issues here.</p>
<p>Gay marriage is a danger to marriage.  Here in California with its recent enforcement by the courts, I had to tell my wifey that our relationship had been torn assunder because of this new law.  How can I stay married to her when Frank and George down the block can get married and act just as wifey and I do?  Its like, it makes ME gay too.  What a terrible assault on my masculinity.</p>
<p>But it does figure that Mikey would get the continuum issue wrong.  My other big jag of course is &#8220;its defintional.&#8221;  Marriage is defintional.  Once defined, it can be located on several different continuums.  &#8220;Degree of ease in getting out&#8221; of would be one such continuum.</p>
<p>Mikey is so uniformily stupid though, I have to think he is &#8220;mostly&#8221; putting us on.  Can anyone really be so retro and still function in society?</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320121</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#52 - QB,

&lt;i&gt;Although I’m not church going kind of person (no really) I think they should not be “forced” to perform any marriages they don’t want to.&lt;/i&gt; 

I didn&#039;t hear anyone suggest that religious institutions be required to perform such marriages. Some religious leaders may choose to do so. Some may not. Some religious institutions also do not allow marriage between people of different faiths, even if they are very similar. This is about laws allowing such marriages. Justices of the peace can perform weddings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#52 &#8211; QB,</p>
<p><i>Although I’m not church going kind of person (no really) I think they should not be “forced” to perform any marriages they don’t want to.</i> </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t hear anyone suggest that religious institutions be required to perform such marriages. Some religious leaders may choose to do so. Some may not. Some religious institutions also do not allow marriage between people of different faiths, even if they are very similar. This is about laws allowing such marriages. Justices of the peace can perform weddings.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320116</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53 - Paddy-O,

&lt;i&gt;How about with animals?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes. I would even allow an ass like you to marry.*

Are you planning to tell me how your sheep is going to say &quot;I do&quot;?

Please stay on topic here.

* Damn!! I&#039;m once again guilty of insulting perfectly good-natured animals, donkeys in this case, by comparing them to humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53 &#8211; Paddy-O,</p>
<p><i>How about with animals?</i></p>
<p>Yes. I would even allow an ass like you to marry.*</p>
<p>Are you planning to tell me how your sheep is going to say &#8220;I do&#8221;?</p>
<p>Please stay on topic here.</p>
<p>* Damn!! I&#8217;m once again guilty of insulting perfectly good-natured animals, donkeys in this case, by comparing them to humans.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/08/27/having-legal-status-makes-same-sex-relationships-last-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-1320100</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51 &quot;As long as it’s truly polygamy not solely polygyny or polyandry. As long as it’s not discriminatory, in other words. Yes.&quot;

How about with animals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51 &#8220;As long as it’s truly polygamy not solely polygyny or polyandry. As long as it’s not discriminatory, in other words. Yes.&#8221;</p>
<p>How about with animals?</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
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		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I support people marrying in any manner they choose rather than the state or a church telling me that. Although I&#039;m not church going kind of person (no really) I think they should not be &quot;forced&quot; to perform any marriages they don&#039;t want to. 

From a practical point of view, I struggle with the age of consent which I see as a far bigger issue than gay or polygamous marriage. 16 seems fine to me, but this is also arbitrary and I don&#039;t have good, solid reasoning for changing it, raising it, lowering it, or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I support people marrying in any manner they choose rather than the state or a church telling me that. Although I&#8217;m not church going kind of person (no really) I think they should not be &#8220;forced&#8221; to perform any marriages they don&#8217;t want to. </p>
<p>From a practical point of view, I struggle with the age of consent which I see as a far bigger issue than gay or polygamous marriage. 16 seems fine to me, but this is also arbitrary and I don&#8217;t have good, solid reasoning for changing it, raising it, lowering it, or whatever.</p>
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