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		<title>By: brucemlloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1342239</link>
		<dc:creator>brucemlloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These commercials make me feel the same after I use Windows: bewildered and totally confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These commercials make me feel the same after I use Windows: bewildered and totally confused.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1342190</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To bad if true. I liked them. In fact my data suggests an increasing number of people  were starting to like them. Not enough in life is funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To bad if true. I liked them. In fact my data suggests an increasing number of people  were starting to like them. Not enough in life is funny.</p>
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		<title>By: edbauer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341931</link>
		<dc:creator>edbauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL at Brian #1: spoken like a true fanboy. This isn&#039;t to say that the Apple ads were world beaters or &quot;hilarious,&quot; but come on already. Obviously the Apple ads are &quot;working,&quot; or else we wouldn&#039;t see any more.

Apparently you&#039;re in the 0.00001% percent that found the ads &quot;funny&quot; and &quot;infinitely superior.&quot; Had they worked, there&#039;d be more, and Jerry wouldn&#039;t have been sh&#124;tcanned.

Lack of Marketing 101 = FAIL

Though I guess when you&#039;re Microsoft, you have money to waste on failed, ineffective ad campaigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL at Brian #1: spoken like a true fanboy. This isn&#8217;t to say that the Apple ads were world beaters or &#8220;hilarious,&#8221; but come on already. Obviously the Apple ads are &#8220;working,&#8221; or else we wouldn&#8217;t see any more.</p>
<p>Apparently you&#8217;re in the 0.00001% percent that found the ads &#8220;funny&#8221; and &#8220;infinitely superior.&#8221; Had they worked, there&#8217;d be more, and Jerry wouldn&#8217;t have been sh|tcanned.</p>
<p>Lack of Marketing 101 = FAIL</p>
<p>Though I guess when you&#8217;re Microsoft, you have money to waste on failed, ineffective ad campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341921</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ads are NOT canceled


http://gizmodo.com/5051682/microsoft-ads-featuring-bill-gates-and-jerry-seinfeld-not-canceled</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ads are NOT canceled</p>
<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5051682/microsoft-ads-featuring-bill-gates-and-jerry-seinfeld-not-canceled" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://gizmodo.com/5051682/microsoft-ads-featuring-bill-gates-and-jerry-seinfeld-not-canceled' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://gizmodo.com/5051682/microsoft-ads-featuring-bill-gates-and-jerry-seinfeld-not-canceled</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341912</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21, Pixbird,

LOL, one of the best commercial ideas yet. Please, take a bow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21, Pixbird,</p>
<p>LOL, one of the best commercial ideas yet. Please, take a bow.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341895</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft is absolutely pathetic! This is really the worst PR-campaign I have ever seen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft is absolutely pathetic! This is really the worst PR-campaign I have ever seen!</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341894</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 I find the mac ads incredibly moronic. Go figure.

#19 I thought the ads were lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 I find the mac ads incredibly moronic. Go figure.</p>
<p>#19 I thought the ads were lame.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixbird</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341859</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I challenge you guys: tell us what a “good” ad would contain. How would you market MS products today?&quot;  Ok, here goes; 

VISTA:  &quot;I&#039;m Windows Vista.&quot;  
TURD:  &quot;And I&#039;m a dog turd.&quot; 
VISTA:  &quot;At least I won&#039;t be found burning in a bag on your front step.&quot;
TURD:  &quot;Are you sure about that?&quot;
VISTA:  &quot;Hmmm.&quot;
TURD:  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I challenge you guys: tell us what a “good” ad would contain. How would you market MS products today?&#8221;  Ok, here goes; </p>
<p>VISTA:  &#8220;I&#8217;m Windows Vista.&#8221;<br />
TURD:  &#8220;And I&#8217;m a dog turd.&#8221;<br />
VISTA:  &#8220;At least I won&#8217;t be found burning in a bag on your front step.&#8221;<br />
TURD:  &#8220;Are you sure about that?&#8221;<br />
VISTA:  &#8220;Hmmm.&#8221;<br />
TURD:</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341763</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if this was their plan, it is a really dumb plan.  Makes it looks like their $300 million campaign was a bust so they are quickly backtracking and replacing Seinfeld with...MS employees?  Fumbling and stumbling...just like the first year of the Vista launch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if this was their plan, it is a really dumb plan.  Makes it looks like their $300 million campaign was a bust so they are quickly backtracking and replacing Seinfeld with&#8230;MS employees?  Fumbling and stumbling&#8230;just like the first year of the Vista launch.</p>
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		<title>By: jim h</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341758</link>
		<dc:creator>jim h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the ads were funny and effective. Obviously a lot of people - or at least, posters on this blog, some of whom I suspect are &#039;bots - hated them.

I challenge you guys: tell us what a &quot;good&quot; ad would contain. How would you market MS products today?

Do you just want the same old cr@p about &quot;wherever you want to go&quot; and &quot;great user experience&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the ads were funny and effective. Obviously a lot of people &#8211; or at least, posters on this blog, some of whom I suspect are &#8216;bots &#8211; hated them.</p>
<p>I challenge you guys: tell us what a &#8220;good&#8221; ad would contain. How would you market MS products today?</p>
<p>Do you just want the same old cr@p about &#8220;wherever you want to go&#8221; and &#8220;great user experience&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My theory:
When Microsoft announced the new ad campaign, it knew whatever it did would be closely examined and criticized.

So the Gates/Seinfeld ads were fake - they were made so that everyone would be able to watch them, see how awful they were, and provide endless material for the bloggers.

Now they can start running the real ads, which will be standard, not very interesting, but provide some consistent message about how Vista is working, and better than ever. Yadda yadda yadda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory:<br />
When Microsoft announced the new ad campaign, it knew whatever it did would be closely examined and criticized.</p>
<p>So the Gates/Seinfeld ads were fake &#8211; they were made so that everyone would be able to watch them, see how awful they were, and provide endless material for the bloggers.</p>
<p>Now they can start running the real ads, which will be standard, not very interesting, but provide some consistent message about how Vista is working, and better than ever. Yadda yadda yadda.</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341712</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People were talking about these commercial and talking a lot.  Isn&#039;t that the point of an ad, to create a buzz over them.  Like tehm or not, you couldn&#039;t go to a website without hearing about the ads.  To me that signals a success.  I&#039;m not surprised that M$ didn&#039;t understand that.  The new ads will no doubt be boring, predictable and nobody will care about them.  But I guess stupidity and M$ go hand and hand nowadays. Pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People were talking about these commercial and talking a lot.  Isn&#8217;t that the point of an ad, to create a buzz over them.  Like tehm or not, you couldn&#8217;t go to a website without hearing about the ads.  To me that signals a success.  I&#8217;m not surprised that M$ didn&#8217;t understand that.  The new ads will no doubt be boring, predictable and nobody will care about them.  But I guess stupidity and M$ go hand and hand nowadays. Pity.</p>
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		<title>By: MicroEarth</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341702</link>
		<dc:creator>MicroEarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the statement &quot;Someday Microsoft will fail&quot;.  Ya, sure, so will the Sun.  The ad was awful, but that don&#039;t mean it wasn&#039;t well thought out, planned, effective, and successful in it&#039;s &quot;Act One&quot; in showing what stupidity looks as in when Apple does an ad.  The character Seinfeld is stoopid, that&#039;s the point.  So now they get rid of him, people talk about it, controversy, bla bla bla, they get more free press.  It&#039;s great advertising.  Compare to Apple ads &amp; computers which are consistently stupid throughout their entire performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the statement &#8220;Someday Microsoft will fail&#8221;.  Ya, sure, so will the Sun.  The ad was awful, but that don&#8217;t mean it wasn&#8217;t well thought out, planned, effective, and successful in it&#8217;s &#8220;Act One&#8221; in showing what stupidity looks as in when Apple does an ad.  The character Seinfeld is stoopid, that&#8217;s the point.  So now they get rid of him, people talk about it, controversy, bla bla bla, they get more free press.  It&#8217;s great advertising.  Compare to Apple ads &amp; computers which are consistently stupid throughout their entire performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ah_Yea</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341655</link>
		<dc:creator>Ah_Yea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and what a sweet deal for Seinfeld.

A couple of days of work, a little goofing off here and there, $10 million richer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and what a sweet deal for Seinfeld.</p>
<p>A couple of days of work, a little goofing off here and there, $10 million richer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/17/seinfeld-out-of-microsoft-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-1341654</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6:

Sometimes a crappy ad is just a crappy ad.

Don&#039;t read too much into them.

Now maybe they can roll out the real campaign:

Hi. Billy Mays here for Windows Vista!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6:</p>
<p>Sometimes a crappy ad is just a crappy ad.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t read too much into them.</p>
<p>Now maybe they can roll out the real campaign:</p>
<p>Hi. Billy Mays here for Windows Vista!</p>
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