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It often happens that the pundit “scoring” of a presidential debate ends up quite at odds from the polls of viewers that soon follow.
We’ve seen it again with Friday night’s debate, which most pundits (on TV and in print) scored very or fairly even, with perhaps some recognition that Obama made some small gains because he pretty much held his own on McCain’s turf. Of course, as we now know, virtually every poll taken by the networks and outside sources gave Obama an edge — and not a small one. He easily swept surveys of undecideds, even carried a Fox focus group. At least in the polls, it was no contest.
We’ll see if and how it affects the head-to-head matchup surveys in days ahead but for now we have to ask: Why did so many mainstream pundits blow it?
Of course, there is always the striving for “balance,” the effects of pre-spinning, and in some cases their favoring of McCain from the outset. And, to be frank, McCain gave a pretty good account of himself.But many pundits threw out the window what they, and others, had said beforehand, about Obama needing to appear presidential and seem expert on international matters. When he did just that in the debate, they suddenly forgot the importance they had placed on it beforehand.
But here’s the key to the viewer/pundit disparity. It took awhile for McCain to build up to it but then he hammered it home near the end: Obama, he charged, lacked the “knowledge and experience” to be president…
But the pundits barely recognized that the “experience” charge was a non-starter — and that’s why they scored the debate fairly even even as viewers seem to have rated it a landslide for Obama.
I didn’t watch the so-called debate. But, I am a news junkie and, spending the time I do wandering the minority of newspaper sites truly concerned with news, I agree with Greg Mitchell – that the “undecided” are simply starting to make up their minds.
Obviously, that doesn’t include the pundits.












Whoever takes the helm should be ready to handle the next big thing which will be Russia’s serious attempt to put “defensive” long range weaponry in Central and South America countries, ala Cuba (1962). History does indeed repeat itself.
meh.
skip the polls, skip the pundits, check the various parimutuel betting sites and futures markets and see where people are putting their money if you wanna know what people really think.
# 39 Mustard.. During my career I prepped many people to speak with the media. One of the first things you tell someone going on TV is not to say something that can be clipped into a great soundbite for the competition (or in Obama’s case, your rival). I noticed Obama saying “John is right” throughout the debate. Obviously ’50 times’ is an exaggeration for effect -the point is, saying it at all not only gave McCain a great soundbite (I knew that ad was coming the second Obama said the words), but also didn’t send a great message. There were other ways Obama could have said the same thing.
You can support a candidate and still see the flaws in their public speaking technique. You can bet his media relations people have already coached him on this and he won’t do it next time.
Obama clearly won the debate, overwhelmingly. Obama has consistently demonstrated clarity, intelligence, ideas, steadfastness, a command of the issues and of ways to resolve them, which will work effectively.
Why is it that McCain never responded to any of Obama’s shots at him? Because they are true, based on fact. On the other hand, Obama had to frequently counter McCain’s falsehoods. Although he was forced to waste time, doing so, he still had plenty of time left to make a cogent case.
I appreciate the CNN coverage, but I’m disappointed when I hear that they find Obama is not an inspiration. I think that the president needs to present a clear plan, demonstrate a reliable, calm and responsible approach and work for Americans. He is not an entertainer. I was inspired because I appreciate his outlook and attitude. I appreciate his preparedness.
He does not insult the American public by suggesting that a person who graduated bottom of his class from military college would be adequate to lead such a great country. He does not insult us by choosing a running mate in a snap decision –a woefully ignorant person.
Obama does inspire. If elected, he will be the greatest president the U.S. has ever had.
#43 – Helz
Looks like Obie learned his lesson. Not only did he not say “John is right” once (although McBush DID say it one time about Obie), but he DOMINATED McBush in last night’s debate.
The little “opinion graph” under the picture on CNN showed Obama pegging the redline many times among the undecided voters (both men and women); McBush’s reception was tepid at best.