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	<title>Comments on: Larry Ellison Thinks Cloud Computing Is Idiotic</title>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1358807</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 &quot;LarryE is probably patently upset and naysaying the cloud concept on the basis that you can’t install or worse, license Oracle on it.&quot;

You act like &quot;cloud computing&quot; is something different that the existing infrastructure &amp; apps.

When you go on your browser and log onto your &quot;cloud computing&quot; app, what DB do you think is running on the &quot;cloud server&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 &#8220;LarryE is probably patently upset and naysaying the cloud concept on the basis that you can’t install or worse, license Oracle on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>You act like &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; is something different that the existing infrastructure &amp; apps.</p>
<p>When you go on your browser and log onto your &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; app, what DB do you think is running on the &#8220;cloud server&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: DoomlordVekk</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1358633</link>
		<dc:creator>DoomlordVekk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LarryE is probably patently upset and naysaying the cloud concept on the basis that you can&#039;t install or worse, license Oracle on it.
Imagine the cost of Oracle 10 RAC across 100 processors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LarryE is probably patently upset and naysaying the cloud concept on the basis that you can&#8217;t install or worse, license Oracle on it.<br />
Imagine the cost of Oracle 10 RAC across 100 processors!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1358453</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The possible problem of Cloud Computing, is if it were to become too dominate. We could one day have another &quot;billion dollar bailout&quot; to keep it from going under, too. Because information will eventually become the most valuable commodity, in the future. Not real estate. And the Cloud could hold it hostage, until it&#039;s CEOs get what they want. Platinum parachutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The possible problem of Cloud Computing, is if it were to become too dominate. We could one day have another &#8220;billion dollar bailout&#8221; to keep it from going under, too. Because information will eventually become the most valuable commodity, in the future. Not real estate. And the Cloud could hold it hostage, until it&#8217;s CEOs get what they want. Platinum parachutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357976</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term Cloud Computing was invented as a way to get publicity &amp; VC $ for start ups that are producing the same s/w we&#039;ve been using for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term Cloud Computing was invented as a way to get publicity &amp; VC $ for start ups that are producing the same s/w we&#8217;ve been using for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357870</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Larry the same guy who&#039;d get wet for anything resembling ancient Japan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Larry the same guy who&#8217;d get wet for anything resembling ancient Japan?</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357854</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So did anyone with a brain, but way to kiss the boss&#039; ass, UD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So did anyone with a brain, but way to kiss the boss&#8217; ass, UD.</p>
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		<title>By: lmj3325</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357817</link>
		<dc:creator>lmj3325</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oracle 9i (i=interent)
Oracle 10g (g=grid)

I predict is team of marketing geniuses will brand the next version Oracle 12c (c=cloud) just to be fashionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oracle 9i (i=interent)<br />
Oracle 10g (g=grid)</p>
<p>I predict is team of marketing geniuses will brand the next version Oracle 12c (c=cloud) just to be fashionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Cursor_</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357785</link>
		<dc:creator>Cursor_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet John and Larry do cloud computing everyday from web servers to web-based email to all sorts of things.

Cloud Computing is the same BS as Apple&#039;s are NOT personal computers.

Cursor_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet John and Larry do cloud computing everyday from web servers to web-based email to all sorts of things.</p>
<p>Cloud Computing is the same BS as Apple&#8217;s are NOT personal computers.</p>
<p>Cursor_</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357776</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all. Two totally rants.

(1) John&#039;s rant is about the unreliability and unaccountability of internet based application servers and the networks they live on.

(2) Larry&#039;s rant is about the term &quot;cloud computing&quot; being meaningless, and also describing what he has been pushing all along, thin-client/server model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all. Two totally rants.</p>
<p>(1) John&#8217;s rant is about the unreliability and unaccountability of internet based application servers and the networks they live on.</p>
<p>(2) Larry&#8217;s rant is about the term &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; being meaningless, and also describing what he has been pushing all along, thin-client/server model.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357774</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It used to be called &quot;vaporware&quot;
Larry is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It used to be called &#8220;vaporware&#8221;<br />
Larry is right.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357759</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought cloud computing was how he would help the government run a national ID card/tracking system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought cloud computing was how he would help the government run a national ID card/tracking system?</p>
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		<title>By: brendal</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357734</link>
		<dc:creator>brendal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...wonder what tech will be strutting down the runway this Fall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;wonder what tech will be strutting down the runway this Fall?</p>
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		<title>By: phiend</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357724</link>
		<dc:creator>phiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Didn’t John already say something along these lines a while ago?&quot;.... yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Didn’t John already say something along these lines a while ago?&#8221;&#8230;. yes</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/09/30/larry-ellison-thinks-cloud-computing-is-idiotic/comment-page-1/#comment-1357720</link>
		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, M$ and Greedy Gate$ and Balmy Ballmer are really on top of Cloud Computing, because they don&#039;t want to MISS THE BOAT, AS THEY CLEARLY DID ON THE INTERNET !!!  That&#039;s of course, when they aren&#039;t plotting to TAKE OVER INTERNET ADVERTISING !!!  They Micro$ofties haven&#039;t seen a REVENUE STREAM THAT THEY DIDN&#039;T WANT ***ALL OF*** !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, M$ and Greedy Gate$ and Balmy Ballmer are really on top of Cloud Computing, because they don&#8217;t want to MISS THE BOAT, AS THEY CLEARLY DID ON THE INTERNET !!!  That&#8217;s of course, when they aren&#8217;t plotting to TAKE OVER INTERNET ADVERTISING !!!  They Micro$ofties haven&#8217;t seen a REVENUE STREAM THAT THEY DIDN&#8217;T WANT ***ALL OF*** !!!</p>
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