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# 1 Ah_Yea said, on October 20th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

Hummm, I guess the 51 and 52 states would be Afghanistan and Iraq, respectively….

# 2 Moose said, on October 20th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

If you wanted to have the job so badly, you’ve done a shitty job running, John.

# 3 Ah_Yea said, on October 20th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

As seen above, the Obamabots are closing in on you, John.

There is no place to hide, nowhere to run!

# 4 Lordy Lordy said, on October 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

So, we should judge people by their craziest stupid idiotic fans then, John?

Is that what you really want us to believe?

# 5 Ah_Yea said, on October 20th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

And they all buy Apple computers and drink Caffe’.

I think I’m going to hide in a shack in Montana until this whole thing blows over.

# 6 Buzz said, on October 20th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

Which card is California?

# 7 Chris Mac said, on October 20th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

Absolutely *Yawn* Zzzzzzz…

# 8 Jim said, on October 20th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

*shrug* So McCain bots would be better? I do think anyone who doesn’t know how many states are in the Union should be sent to a penal colony in Mexico.

Mavrick!!

Mavarick!

Mavirick!!

# 9 I said, on October 20th, 2008 at 11:33 pm

http://ehbs.kff.org/?page=charts&id=1&sn=6&p=1

In this weeks No Agenda you and Adam both railed about Obama’s usage of the figure of $12,000 for health cost. See above for a source for that figure – hint: it’s for family coverage.

# 10 wiglebot said, on October 20th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

Hey, JCD you are older than Boomers, right. I am a Gen X. Bommers and their kids are to blame.

I don’t get boomer logic or speech. I call it metro-sexual ranting. It is the Me-Generation where everyone gets to talk, but no one listens enough to consider something other than what benefits themselves.

Where in the Hell do you think Structured Finance came from.

historically and statically crazy

# 11 John C Dvorak said, on October 20th, 2008 at 11:43 pm

#9 — OK $12,000 for family but that is not what he said. He never mentioned family and he implied single person. This is what I’m complaining about. Someone else did the math on the 57 state comment and concluded that Obama meant to say 47 states, since he said there was one he didn’t go to and he was not going to Hawaii or Alaska, thus 50. Great, but that’s not what he said! So whatever Obama says, no matter how daft, is corrected by the bots with “he meant to say this not that.” So he can never be wrong. Gee, how convenient. And, note, Obama went to Hawaii and is going to Hawaii again. He also said he was the head of a committee he was not the head of and other gaffes that are all ignored.

Or you end up with baffling comments like #2 above.

# 12 geofgibson said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:09 am

The key point here is that Bush could mis-speak and he would get ripped all day long, but when The Obamessiah speaks, all the monks must hunch over their desks and interpret the statements from The One.

The self importance and hypocrisy of these morons is infinite and nauseating.

# 13 Uncle Patso said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:27 am

“Political Correctness” is already insane in California.

I wonder what will be the 51st state? Puerto Rico? Guam? The North Pole? (“Here’s your flag back, Vladimir. $500 fine for littering.”)

# 14 brm said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:30 am

Accusations of senility would be flying if McCain said this.

McCain doesn’t know how many houses his WIFE owns (didn’t old man Hensley make John sign a prenup?), but Obama gets away with not knowing how many STATES there are?

Obama was probably counting England, Germany, Sweden, Norway, France, Italy and Spain, because he campaigned there.

# 15 Mark said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:36 am

Yeah, but think of the Obama supporters that didn’t Twitter you. Besides, it’s clear that Obama was referring to the 58 states of transcending enlightenment, of those he has one more left to travel

# 16 brm said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:38 am

#9:

The $12k/yr figure seems to be for employer-purchased plans. Individual plans tend to be much cheaper, afaik – I’m going off of the quotes insurance companies send me.

That link says that the average cost of a single person’s premium is almost 400 bucks a month? I’ve seen decent plans for around $100 – plans with dental, vision, $20 co-pays, and $1.5 mil hospitalization.

The lower price has been explained to me (by an insurance company) as being due to the fact that the pool of individuals is far larger than any individual company.

# 17 The Warden said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:55 am

John,

The leftist thugs aka Obamatrons are doing what Obama the corrupt Chicago mobster/politician does. They intimidate people and try to shut them up. Their tactics work. Obama used it quite well while in Chicago.

Obama is an outright socialist and he’s and his friends in the media have done everything to cover it up. There has been more investigative reporting into Sarah Palin in one month than Obama in over two years. It goes to show you just how corrupt the MSM is.

# 18 The Warden said, on October 21st, 2008 at 1:00 am

In regards to cost projections and dollar figures, when has ANY politician EVER been right about what they say their plan will do? Answer is NONE! It’s all smoke and mirrors to appeal to the morons out there who buy hook line and sinker what ever crap that comes out of a candidates mouth. Most people have no understanding how congress works and that it’s congress that writes the laws. By the time the other criminals under the rotunda get their hands on a bill it becomes a vastly different bill full of pork and nonesense. Terrorists are jumping for joy because we have idiotic Americans who are doing more to destroy their own country than they could ever do with two planes.

# 19 BdgBill said, on October 21st, 2008 at 1:00 am

I have met a surprising number of educated adults who insisted that the US has 52 states.

# 20 pedro said, on October 21st, 2008 at 1:30 am

#11 IOW, Obama is just as big a poor factoid person as GWB. Who knew!

Keep waiting for the “that’s not what I meant” excuses in the future.

I would start a blog called “What would Obama do” and based on his accuracy, come up with what Obama meant if he made GWB’s blunders.

#17 And people don’t want to believe that Obama has a little bit of chavez in him. Same poor fact citing, same “media is not treating me well” whining, same thug-like supporters who seem to have given their brains for research, same lying (aka flip-flopping).

The U.S. is toast.

# 21 simongiln said, on October 21st, 2008 at 2:36 am

Wow. Talk about a non-issue. It’s amazing how people take this stuff so seriously.

It was a flub. Anyone who took it literally is stupid, and anyone who thinks it’s worth defending has lost his perspective.

# 22 Joe Dirt said, on October 21st, 2008 at 2:38 am

John, I see your point but let’s be realistic both parties do it. Palin gets all the attention because she’s clearly not qualified. I wonder what the kids thought of her while SNL pokes fun at mommy and daddy. What would your kids think if that was you John?

Perhaps you should start another thread to allow users to submit Obamabot and McCainbot sitings for comparison.

Can’t wait for this stupid election to be over….

# 23 Buzz said, on October 21st, 2008 at 2:45 am

#12 Quibbling. Obama is more inclined to address family situations, not bachelor situations.

We call slip o the tongues “verbigraphical errors” around hear. I’ve heard you make them. I’ve heard Leo make them. I’ve heard McCain make them.

Biden? Never makes them.

Kidding.

# 24 Pekuliar said, on October 21st, 2008 at 2:55 am

“Politically correct” is just one step away from censorship. Wait until the “Fairness Doctrine” is passed by an Obamabot congress then you will see what many of us have known all along. Liberals love tolerance and diversity until you disagree with them. Then you are dismissed as “ignorant” and “intolerant”.Wake Up!

# 25 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on October 21st, 2008 at 3:20 am

When smart people make mistakes most folks let it slide. When people who appear less smart than us make mistakes, they get hammered.

On the anonymous Internet we’re all stupid until credibility in a particular forum is established.

# 26 Dallas said, on October 21st, 2008 at 3:21 am

John, I thought you’re suppose to throw the Republicans here a bone on Thursdays only?

ARRRRR. Liberals are socialists… ARRRRR.. .Facists…RUFFF.. RUFFF… haters… ARRRR.. intolerant.. ARRRR.. RUFF…RUFF

# 27 pedro said, on October 21st, 2008 at 3:29 am

#26 So now is “kill the messenger”. Where are you going for vacations this year, the 55th state?

# 28 LibertyLover said, on October 21st, 2008 at 3:41 am

It’s gotten bad here, too.

I fret what will happen if he is actually elected. Instead of internet bullies, we’ll have roving groups of thugs taking down people in the streets who have bumper stickers that supported anybody other than der Obama.

And they’ll get off because they were misunderstood, because they’ve been abused by the republican party so long, they were just lashing out and should be excused.

I guess it’s time to start hiding my money.

# 29 Dallas said, on October 21st, 2008 at 3:53 am

#27.. Yes. Kill Him! Dvorak allegedly pals around with terrorists and middle name is Comrade.

Here. This is what I like.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/40006/msnbc-decision-08-blocking-the-vote

# 30 obama said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:03 am

wait
worse and more is yet to come
you are not imagining it
what a con job

# 31 moss said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:13 am

This is what libertarians worry about, nowadays?

# 32 drunner2 said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:17 am

#52

No, but it helps.

# 33 drunner2 said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:19 am

Ahem, #32, I meant 32. Not 52, cause that’d just be silly.

# 34 the answer said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:20 am

Do we REALLY have an article on Dvorak.org/blog about what is more then likely a typo?

# 35 BigBoyBC said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:35 am

Funny, Dan Quayle spelled potato with an “e” and has been ripped for it non-stop for years…

Well the race isn’t over yet, but it’s not Obama vs. McCain, it’s actually Diebold vs. Acorn.

# 36 mentor972 said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:36 am

Wow, these guys sound just like Apple apologists.

# 37 BigBoyBC said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:44 am

Pekuliar said: ““Politically correct” is just one step away from censorship.”

Actually political correctness is censorship. No matter how much liberals deny it.

# 38 BigBoyBC said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:47 am

Hey John!!

Maybe this “paul_silver” guy when to school with Adam Curry. Remember his story from No Agenda this weekend…

Too Funny…

# 39 ubiquitous talking head said, on October 21st, 2008 at 4:58 am

When smart people make mistakes most folks let it slide. When people who appear less smart than us make mistakes, they get hammered.

In my experience, it tends to be just the opposite.

# 40 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 5:23 am

Do you REALLY think he didn’t know how many states there were? I have seen McCain make plenty of the same kind of mistakes. Need we bring up his “Al Qaeda in Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that’s well known. And it’s unfortunate.” mistake? ONE THAT HE REPEATED MORE THAN ONCE!!!!! Which one could lead to a bigger potential problem??? How soon we forget!

How lame as to try this type of nonsense besides we all know that there are only 13 states! LOL

# 41 zefyr said, on October 21st, 2008 at 5:25 am

More Ultra Right Thuggery . This is beyond tasteless http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/21/uselections2008-barackobama3

# 42 Mr. Fusion said, on October 21st, 2008 at 5:25 am

Much ado about nothing.

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In fact there are really 46 States in the United States. Anyone who differs is an idiot who doesn’t know their geography.

I’ve actually used this question of how many States in the U.S. many times. Amazingly the most cited number would be 50 at about 40% and 52 States at about 20% of the time. The other numbers range from 40 to 55 States.

I have yet to be proved wrong either. And the correct answer isn’t 50 States. BUT, to the first person to prove my number of 46 wrong, I will acknowledge as smarter than everyone else.

# 43 brendal said, on October 21st, 2008 at 5:26 am

John, I’ve been trying to set you straight for almost 16 years now…good luck to this guy who hopes to do it with one tweet! HAR!

# 44 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 5:33 am

# 42 Mr. Fusion

Oh yeah. Going on that line of thinking JCD, That guy is correct! If you include commonwealths as states which is quite fair to do so there would be 52 states. If you don’t include commonwealths I think it would be 46.

It all depends on how you define commonwealth!!

I like how JCD makes fun of things he doesn’t understand and doesn’t know about. LOL

Just like when he didn’t know that bosniacs was a word.

# 45 Joe said, on October 21st, 2008 at 5:35 am

Witness the fascist left and their legion of useful idiots (read morons). If we start with the next congressional election, it will take a generation to roll back the stupid mistakes they’re promising to make.

# 46 brendal said, on October 21st, 2008 at 5:50 am

#45 Say it ain’t so, Joe…although we know it is. 50 states…no more, no less.

Idiots.

If Palin were EVER to say to anyone, “Hey, I’ve been to all 58 states!” the response would be…well, we all know what it would be.

When I was a news reporter, I heard an ELECTED official use the n-word while a meeting was IN SESSION. When I reported it in my story, the editor REFUSED to run it. I quit. Am sure that the few African-American voters in the county (one was a doctor whose mother was a columnist for the DETROIT NEWS) would have loved to know his views. Unfortunately, she never got a chance to learn about it.

I am proud to say I am no longer a member of the BIASED media…!

# 47 jccalhoun said, on October 21st, 2008 at 6:20 am

Where did Obama say that? Just curious.

# 48 jccalhoun said, on October 21st, 2008 at 6:25 am

So I did my own research and found out where he said this. Turns out it was several months ago. I thought it was a recent thing. Of course, the conspirators dug up some connection between Islam and 57 and are claiming that it is yet more evidence that Obama is Islamic (as if that were a crime or something…) http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

# 49 KevinL said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:01 am

Even George Stepalloverus is an Obamabot by “correcting’ Obama when he talked about his Muslim faith.

The bots are especially quick to point out that Palin is definately not qualified to be president but isn’t she actually more qualified than Obama? Based only on work experience. That doesn’t mean she would be a good president or Obama would be a bad one but she is “more” qualified. How else do you decide what the qualifications are?

John, the bots are are also card carrying members of the Dunning-Kruger Effect clan spread out over all 52 or so states.

# 50 MikeN said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:15 am

But noone in the press is making up these Obama quotes. They are doing this with GovPalin and McCain.

For example, one newspaper gave the following quote for Palin:

Writing in an open-ed piece for the New York Times, she said that these “magnificent, cuddly white bears are doing just fine and don’t need our protection. If the ice melts, they’ll adapt to living on the land.”

Her actual editorial:

ABOUT the closest most Americans will ever get to a polar bear are those cute, cuddly animated images that smiled at us while dancing around, pitching soft drinks on TV and movie screens this holiday season.

This is unfortunate, because polar bears are magnificent animals, not cartoon characters. They are worthy of our utmost efforts to protect them and their Arctic habitat. But adding polar bears to the nation’s list of endangered species, as some are now proposing, should not be part of those efforts.

# 51 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:18 am

I can’t believe there are idiots on here who don’t know what a state is and think the number is something other than 50.

These are the same ones that will say it is not a police state when Omama is having people arrested for “offensive speech”.

Well, at least it will be interesting to watch them defend Omama as he proceeds to spend more than any admin is history.

# 52 History Repeating said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:24 am

Yup, sounds just uppity as when League of W folks were so happy the Bushies were taking over from Clintons painful then painful now.
In some ways the change remains the same.

# 53 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:52 am

# 51 Paddy-O

Oh paddy cake you had to come on and spread your ignorance again. Please explain why DC and Puerto Rico are not a states and why each one is different in different ways and how they differ from commonwealths. If you can’t answer those questions then you don’t know what a state is either.

Just to be clear I think there are 50 states I just want to know if you have any idea what you are talking about or are just talking shit like you usually do.

# 54 Buzz said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:57 am

Heinz 57. That was the connection. He had Ketchup on his burger that day. There’s your terrorist connection.

# 55 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:59 am

#53 LOL!

Get a copy of the Constitution and read it. Statehood is well covered in there.

ROFL!

# 56 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:06 am

# 55 Paddy-O

“Get a copy of the Constitution and read it. Statehood is well covered in there. ”

Oh I know what a state is I just want to see if you do because I don’t think you can make a valid argument as to why Puerto Rico and DC are not states other than the constitution says so. What parts of Article 4 don’t they fit?

I await your ignorant answer.

# 57 jccalhoun said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:09 am

“These are the same ones that will say it is not a police state when Omama is having people arrested for “offensive speech””

Yes because no one has been arrested for “offensive speech” like wearing anti-war t-shirts at Bush rallies or anything…

# 58 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:10 am

#56 JJ the ignorant said, “Oh I know what a state is”

Not per your post # 44 “That guy is correct! If you include commonwealths as states which is quite fair to do so there would be 52 states.”

LOL! Unbelievable. Well, I guess based on your past posting history I can believe that you don’t know. ROFL!

# 59 MikeN said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:12 am

How many Senators does Rich Port have again?

# 60 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:21 am

# 58 Paddy-O

As usual you only read what fits your pre defined bias. You seemed to have missed the KEY part of my comment. “Going on that line of thinking ” I couldn’t expect a dipshit like you to bother to read the whole comment though.

Now DON’T IGNORE THE REST OF THAT POST. PLEASE indulge us with your continued ignorance

# 61 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:26 am

#60 JJ

It’s OKAY to not know what a State is. I just didn’t expect you to admit to it on a blog. No worries.

On another note, the military is short of Omamabots. 68% of those in the military are voting for McCain. No faith in Omama as Commander in Chief.

http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/081003_ep_2pp.pdf

# 62 Malcolm said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:26 am

John: Why all the whining? Just because you’re going to lose a stupid bet? Get over it, a slip of the tongue is just that, a slip. It has zero meaning, just like most of the replies to this trivia.

# 63 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:27 am

# 59 MikeN

“How many Senators does Rich Port have again?”

Puerto Rico has 17 senators. I don’t know how many represent Rich Port though.

Perhaps if you are going to be sarcastic you should least know the correct question to ask? LOL

# 64 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:29 am

# 61 Paddy-O

You can’t answer the question can you? Once again you prove that all you do is talk shit!!!!

From now on you will be known as Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker.

# 65 John C Dvorak said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:31 am

# 66 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:37 am

#64 JJ said, “You can’t answer the question can you?”

Oh yes, but my rate for tutoring is $150/hour; 5 hours paid up front.

Do you want to set up an account?

# 67 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:40 am

61 Paddy-O

“It’s OKAY to not know what a State is.”

Are you trying to make yourself feel better? There is a very clear definition of what make a U.S. State. I don’t think YOU know what it is. You point to the constitution and babble that it is well covered when in fact it really isn’t but you won’t tell use the difference between what Puerto Rico is and what DC is and how they differ from U.S. States.

THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DON”T KNOW!!!! AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!!!!

# 68 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:43 am

#67 J said, “There is a very clear definition of what make a U.S. State. ”

Very good J! You’re making progress.

Now, don’t try to weasel a freebie out of me. I’ve given you a few already.

Do you want to set up an account?

# 69 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:46 am

68 Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker.

That’s ok you can dodge the question all you want. I have given you a chance to prove your knowledge and you can’t because you don’t really posses the knowledge and are to ignorant of the topic to even know where to look it up.

# 70 adogg4629 said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:47 am

As an Obama Supporter let me say that we all haven’t lost our sense of humor. Keep it up.

# 71 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:50 am

#69 “That’s ok you can dodge the question all you want.”

The question of why you think the # of states is other than 50? I think it has to do with your lack of education. I can’t be sure. Maybe you could enlighten us. What was the last elementary school grade you completed?

# 72 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 8:59 am

# 71 Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker.

I don’t think that the number of states is anything other than 50. I have stated such and never anything to the contrary despite your douche nozzle interpretation of what I wrote.

The question is to you as to why Puerto Rico and DC and why they are not and why they are different and don’t fit the definition of a state.

You can’t answer that because you don’t know and are only shooting off your mouth about your lack of knowledge. It is a simple one or two sentence answer depending how you word it. You could end all of this and make yourself not look like an ignorant dolt if you just told us.

BUT ALAS YOU CAN NOT.

You can dodge but you can’t hide.

# 73 Paddy-O said, on October 21st, 2008 at 9:03 am

#72 “I don’t think that the number of states is anything other than 50.”

It’s okay J. I’m glad you are learning about America. There’s nothing shameful in having to learn.

Keep studying. As you do, the vistas that will open up for you are beyond your wildest dreams!

Knowledge IS power.

# 74 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 9:07 am

# 73 Paddy-O

“Knowledge IS power.”

That is why you are a weak fool!

# 75 pedro said, on October 21st, 2008 at 9:08 am

#40 So, you admit the main Dem. strategy against McCain is lame? Now, this is a surprise.

#57 So that makes it alright to carry on the “tradition”? Where’s the change then?

#65 Priceless.

# 76 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 9:11 am

# 75 pedro

I admit you are a douchenozzle!

# 77 smartalix said, on October 21st, 2008 at 9:20 am

The fact that most of these debates on Obama pivot on verbal typos is extremely telling. Where is the scrutiny and hue & cry over his stated policies? Is it that the naysayers have nothing to criticize but trivialities?

# 78 pedro said, on October 21st, 2008 at 9:45 am

#77 That low have we sunk that it doesn’t matter is the guy is accurate or not as long as we like him? If he’s (both of them) so sloppy that he cannot get things right while trying to sell himself as the guy that has what it takes to run a country, what can we expect from the real difficult stuff needed to actually be a good president?

# 79 J said, on October 21st, 2008 at 9:53 am

# 78 pedro

What about McCain and his numerous inaccurate and incorrect statements?

# 80 smartalix said, on October 21st, 2008 at 11:20 am

78,

If he had made an error in describing a policy or in a position paper, I would hold him to task. But to jump on a statement made about the hectic nature of the campaign with a count of places visited is a stretch.

What are the other things he has said that you feel aren’t right or factual? If this is all you have, you have a very poor case.

# 81 pedro said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pm

#79 What part of “both of them” didn’t you get? The focus of the answer was on Obama ’cause this is a blogpost about him.

#80 How ’bout his “good will” to talk to assholes like chavez?

# 82 hhopper said, on October 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pm

Seriously, do you think he really doesn’t know how many states there are?

Sheesh!

# 83 GF said, on October 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pm

John, everybody knows that those 7 extra states are in the World of Warcraft – Obama edition.

I heard Acorn has signed up a ton of elves to vote too.

# 84 Montanaguy said, on October 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pm

I’m amazed that the Mr.Mustard, who I suspect is an Obamabot, hasn’t botted this topic yet. He’s probably short-circuited.

# 85 JFech said, on October 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Here is what I read in that blog post:

WAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

If you make comments about politics, be prepared for a retort(or 1000 of them).

# 86 Bill said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:37 pm

I read this blog every day, and what I can’t hardly fathom is all these people who post about Senator Obama said 57 states and seriously comment as if he doesn’t know how many states there are in the USA. Seriously? You must like to see yourself in print. That mispeak is on your list of critics of the Senator? It is so trivial as to boggle the mind that you take the time to blog about it an discuss it. So much more is at stake. Talk about anything else, please. Something that matters, like his energy policy and reported reluctance about nuclear energy plants. Or his education policy.

“But that’s what he said!” is such a useless defense. “Then he went to Hawaii, when he said he wasn’t going to go”… pointless discussion. As if that helps anyone determine who should be President.

Try to fathom if he would continue to erode our rights as the past eight years have seen, in order to make us safe. Try to determine if he is in favor of the sham security we are subjected to at the airports. Try to determine if he will secure the Mexican and Canadian borders. Try to determine if he will go to war to protect Isreal. Those are real issues. Not some stupid statement about 57 states.

I sit in wonder of the web-fame-wanna-bees.

I think deep thought is beyond so many people that they latch on to the trivial.

# 87 Mr. Fusion said, on October 21st, 2008 at 7:57 pm

#73, Cow-Paddy,

It’s okay J. I’m glad you are learning about America. There’s nothing shameful in having to learn.

Oh how so many of us wish you learn a little. Then you wouldn’t need to bullshit us so much.

For your information, there are 46 States in the United States of America. There are also four Commonwealths. These fifty entities are represented by the 50 stars on the flag and comprise the voting segment of the Congress. The District of Columbia is a Federal District. Anything else is a territory.

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So you charge $150 / hour. Ya right. And what do you teach? Bull shit?

I haven’t done any this year, but over the past few years I have been tutoring High school students. Passing their grade was gratitude enough for me. I’ve even had one come over and cut my grass for me when he found out I was ill. That meant more to me than money ever could.

It is easy to see that you could never really tutor others. Simply because it requires some knowledge about a subject. I don’t think there is much demand to learn how to be an idiot.

# 88 LibertyLover said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 1:52 am

http://tinyurl.com/666utw
http://tinyurl.com/5nzket

Saying a commonwealth is not a state is like saying a parish is not a county.

It has a different name, but the differences stop there. They are synonyms.

# 89 geofgibson said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 2:09 am

#86 – “…That mispeak is on your list of critics of the Senator? It is so trivial as to boggle the mind that you take the time to blog about it an discuss it.”

You miss the point. It is about the hypocrisy of the Left. If Bush said it, if Palin said it, if Dan Quayle said it, if anyone on the Right said it, they would be hammered for being morons, etc., blah, blah, blah.

The Left won’t criticize The Obamessiah, nor his Wacky Sidekick Joe, no matter what they say. Given their willingness to swallow any Kool Aid from Daily Kos and Huffington Post, it makes one question their judgement about their candidate.

# 90 pedro said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 3:08 am

#86 Did you read what you just wrote? I give you something, that useless ammount of text is sure among the best rationalizations I’ve ever seen. Too bad it’s so lame.

# 91 BigCarbonFoot said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 4:11 am

We’re all gonna die.

# 92 Mr. Fusion said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 4:40 am

#88, Loser,

Saying a commonwealth is not a state is like saying a parish is not a county.

A parish isn’t a county. Very similar, but they are different. While both are now political districts, parishes were created from the ecclesiastical area served by a church and counties are artificially created areas.

From your link

Officially Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, and Massachusetts are all commonwealths. When Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, and Massachusetts became part of the United States, they merely took the old form of state in their title.

Now that answer is incorrect. Why? Because at least Kentucky didn’t become a political unit until after the United States were formed.

You want more proof? Go to Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, or Massachusetts and tell them they live in the State of Pennsylvania, the State of Kentucky, the State of Virginia, or the State of Massachusetts.

Trivial? Yes, but a true fact. Is referring to the “57″ states trivial? Yes, especially when viewed in the light of a tired man making a quick comment.

# 93 Mr. Fusion said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 4:59 am

#89, geof,

If Bush said it, if Palin said it, if Dan Quayle said it, if anyone on the Right said it, they would be hammered for being morons, etc.

Would they?

Bush has made this a constant habit.

Palin’s criticisms come from her lack of knowledge more than any little misspeak.

Quayle is most known for his correcting the spelling of the word potato. It was neither off the cuff nor could Quayle claim fatigue. Never a stellar light in Congress, he never went on to disprove his critics.

# 94 Mr. Fusion said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 5:02 am

#90, peehead,

Coming from you, Bill should surely take that as a compliment. Geeze I wish you had something to add to the discussion once in a while.

#91, iHotAir,

After you Ma’am.

# 95 Alex Wollangk said, on October 22nd, 2008 at 6:17 am

Okay, I’m chiming in without reading all the comments because it got into name-calling and that always pisses me off.

Yes, Obama does mis-speak. Just like McCain and good ‘ol “W” mis-speaks. I think it’s really funny that he said he visited 57 states and still had one to go. I don’t think anyone can really justify the stand that this wasn’t a mis-statement. There’s no way he could possibly not know how many states there are in the US. (Yes, if McCain or “W” had said this I would also be saying the same thing.)

There are even things he says that AREN’T mis-statements that *GASP* I DISAGREE WITH. I think his apparent nuclear-phobia is mis-placed and I agree more with McCain. There are definitely elements of McCain’s energy policy I like better than Obama’s. If they dropped the whole monumentally stupid Alaskan drilling and added a bit more emphasis on new technologies and less on “clean coal” and McCain’s energy policy would (in my opinion) be about perfect. If I can get past the Alaskan drilling I’d even venture to say that McCain’s energy policy is better than Obama’s.

I think that public health needs to be more socialized, but am afraid that letting OUR government handle it will be like giving everybody the worst HMO on the planet. Although in some ways I think it would be really hard to do worse than we’re doing now. I think Obama’s is the best plan out there, but I still have some significant misgivings about it. I must say, though, that the worst plan I heard wasn’t McCain’s, it was actually Clinton’s. Neither McCain nor Obama actually had the brilliant idea of fining people for not being able to afford health insurance.