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		<title>By: Alex Wollangk</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388932</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wollangk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;m chiming in without reading all the comments because it got into name-calling and that always pisses me off.

Yes, Obama does mis-speak.  Just like McCain and good &#039;ol &quot;W&quot; mis-speaks.  I think it&#039;s really funny that he said he visited 57 states and still had one to go.  I don&#039;t think anyone can really justify the stand that this wasn&#039;t a mis-statement.  There&#039;s no way he could possibly not know how many states there are in the US.  (Yes, if McCain or &quot;W&quot; had said this I would also be saying the same thing.)

There are even things he says that AREN&#039;T mis-statements that *GASP* I DISAGREE WITH.  I think his apparent nuclear-phobia is mis-placed and I agree more with McCain.  There are definitely elements of McCain&#039;s energy policy I like better than Obama&#039;s.  If they dropped the whole monumentally stupid Alaskan drilling and added a bit more emphasis on new technologies and less on &quot;clean coal&quot; and McCain&#039;s energy policy would (in my opinion) be about perfect.  If I can get past the Alaskan drilling I&#039;d even venture to say that McCain&#039;s energy policy is better than Obama&#039;s.

I think that public health needs to be more socialized, but am afraid that letting OUR government handle it will be like giving everybody the worst HMO on the planet.  Although in some ways I think it would be really hard to do worse than we&#039;re doing now.  I think Obama&#039;s is the best plan out there, but I still have some significant misgivings about it.  I must say, though, that the worst plan I heard wasn&#039;t McCain&#039;s, it was actually Clinton&#039;s.  Neither McCain nor Obama actually had the brilliant idea of fining people for not being able to afford health insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;m chiming in without reading all the comments because it got into name-calling and that always pisses me off.</p>
<p>Yes, Obama does mis-speak.  Just like McCain and good &#8216;ol &#8220;W&#8221; mis-speaks.  I think it&#8217;s really funny that he said he visited 57 states and still had one to go.  I don&#8217;t think anyone can really justify the stand that this wasn&#8217;t a mis-statement.  There&#8217;s no way he could possibly not know how many states there are in the US.  (Yes, if McCain or &#8220;W&#8221; had said this I would also be saying the same thing.)</p>
<p>There are even things he says that AREN&#8217;T mis-statements that *GASP* I DISAGREE WITH.  I think his apparent nuclear-phobia is mis-placed and I agree more with McCain.  There are definitely elements of McCain&#8217;s energy policy I like better than Obama&#8217;s.  If they dropped the whole monumentally stupid Alaskan drilling and added a bit more emphasis on new technologies and less on &#8220;clean coal&#8221; and McCain&#8217;s energy policy would (in my opinion) be about perfect.  If I can get past the Alaskan drilling I&#8217;d even venture to say that McCain&#8217;s energy policy is better than Obama&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I think that public health needs to be more socialized, but am afraid that letting OUR government handle it will be like giving everybody the worst HMO on the planet.  Although in some ways I think it would be really hard to do worse than we&#8217;re doing now.  I think Obama&#8217;s is the best plan out there, but I still have some significant misgivings about it.  I must say, though, that the worst plan I heard wasn&#8217;t McCain&#8217;s, it was actually Clinton&#8217;s.  Neither McCain nor Obama actually had the brilliant idea of fining people for not being able to afford health insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388833</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#90, peehead,

Coming from you, Bill should surely take that as a compliment. Geeze I wish you had something to add to the discussion once in a while. 

#91, iHotAir,

After you Ma&#039;am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#90, peehead,</p>
<p>Coming from you, Bill should surely take that as a compliment. Geeze I wish you had something to add to the discussion once in a while. </p>
<p>#91, iHotAir,</p>
<p>After you Ma&#8217;am.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388830</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#89, geof,

&lt;i&gt;If Bush said it, if Palin said it, if Dan Quayle said it, if anyone on the Right said it, they would be hammered for being morons, etc. &lt;/i&gt;

Would they? 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/76886/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bush&lt;/a&gt; has made this a constant habit.

Palin&#039;s criticisms come from her &lt;a href=&quot;http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/countdown-special-comment-gov-palin-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lack of knowledge&lt;/a&gt; more than any little misspeak. 

Quayle is most known for his correcting the spelling of the word potato. It was neither off the cuff nor could Quayle claim fatigue. Never a stellar light in Congress, he never went on to disprove his critics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#89, geof,</p>
<p><i>If Bush said it, if Palin said it, if Dan Quayle said it, if anyone on the Right said it, they would be hammered for being morons, etc. </i></p>
<p>Would they? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/76886/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bush</a> has made this a constant habit.</p>
<p>Palin&#8217;s criticisms come from her <a href="http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/countdown-special-comment-gov-palin-a" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lack of knowledge</a> more than any little misspeak. </p>
<p>Quayle is most known for his correcting the spelling of the word potato. It was neither off the cuff nor could Quayle claim fatigue. Never a stellar light in Congress, he never went on to disprove his critics.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388815</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#88, Loser,

&lt;i&gt;Saying a commonwealth is not a state is like saying a parish is not a county.&lt;/i&gt;

A parish isn&#039;t a county. Very similar, but they are different. While both are now political districts, parishes were created from the ecclesiastical area served by a church and counties are artificially created areas.

From your link

&lt;i&gt;Officially Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, and Massachusetts are all commonwealths. When Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, and Massachusetts became part of the United States, they merely took the old form of state in their title.&lt;/i&gt;

Now that answer is incorrect. Why? Because at least Kentucky didn&#039;t become a political unit until after the United States were formed. 

You want more proof? Go to Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, or Massachusetts and tell them they live in the State of Pennsylvania, the State of Kentucky, the State of Virginia, or the State of Massachusetts.

Trivial? Yes, but a true fact. Is referring to the &quot;57&quot; states trivial? Yes, especially when viewed in the light of a tired man making a quick comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#88, Loser,</p>
<p><i>Saying a commonwealth is not a state is like saying a parish is not a county.</i></p>
<p>A parish isn&#8217;t a county. Very similar, but they are different. While both are now political districts, parishes were created from the ecclesiastical area served by a church and counties are artificially created areas.</p>
<p>From your link</p>
<p><i>Officially Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, and Massachusetts are all commonwealths. When Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, and Massachusetts became part of the United States, they merely took the old form of state in their title.</i></p>
<p>Now that answer is incorrect. Why? Because at least Kentucky didn&#8217;t become a political unit until after the United States were formed. </p>
<p>You want more proof? Go to Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Virginia, or Massachusetts and tell them they live in the State of Pennsylvania, the State of Kentucky, the State of Virginia, or the State of Massachusetts.</p>
<p>Trivial? Yes, but a true fact. Is referring to the &#8220;57&#8243; states trivial? Yes, especially when viewed in the light of a tired man making a quick comment.</p>
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		<title>By: BigCarbonFoot</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388799</link>
		<dc:creator>BigCarbonFoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re all gonna die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re all gonna die.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388740</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86 Did you read what you just wrote? I give you something, that useless ammount of text is sure among the best rationalizations I&#039;ve ever seen. Too bad it&#039;s so lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86 Did you read what you just wrote? I give you something, that useless ammount of text is sure among the best rationalizations I&#8217;ve ever seen. Too bad it&#8217;s so lame.</p>
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		<title>By: geofgibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>geofgibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86 - &quot;...That mispeak is on your list of critics of the Senator? It is so trivial as to boggle the mind that you take the time to blog about it an discuss it.&quot;

You miss the point.  It is about the hypocrisy of the Left.  If Bush said it, if Palin said it, if Dan Quayle said it, if anyone on the Right said it, they would be hammered for being morons, etc., blah, blah, blah.

The Left won&#039;t criticize The Obamessiah, nor his Wacky Sidekick Joe, no matter what they say.  Given their willingness to swallow any Kool Aid from Daily Kos and Huffington Post, it makes one question their judgement about their candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86 &#8211; &#8220;&#8230;That mispeak is on your list of critics of the Senator? It is so trivial as to boggle the mind that you take the time to blog about it an discuss it.&#8221;</p>
<p>You miss the point.  It is about the hypocrisy of the Left.  If Bush said it, if Palin said it, if Dan Quayle said it, if anyone on the Right said it, they would be hammered for being morons, etc., blah, blah, blah.</p>
<p>The Left won&#8217;t criticize The Obamessiah, nor his Wacky Sidekick Joe, no matter what they say.  Given their willingness to swallow any Kool Aid from Daily Kos and Huffington Post, it makes one question their judgement about their candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388677</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://tinyurl.com/666utw
http://tinyurl.com/5nzket

Saying a commonwealth is not a state is like saying a parish is not a county.

It has a different name, but the differences stop there.  They are synonyms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/666utw" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/666utw' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/666utw</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5nzket" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/5nzket' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/5nzket</a></p>
<p>Saying a commonwealth is not a state is like saying a parish is not a county.</p>
<p>It has a different name, but the differences stop there.  They are synonyms.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388391</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#73, Cow-Paddy,

&lt;i&gt;It’s okay J. I’m glad you are learning about America. There’s nothing shameful in having to learn. &lt;/i&gt;

Oh how so many of us wish you learn a little. Then you wouldn&#039;t need to bullshit us so much.

For your information, there are 46 States in the United States of America. There are also four Commonwealths. These fifty entities are represented by the 50 stars on the flag and comprise the voting segment of the Congress. The District of Columbia is a Federal District. Anything else is a territory. 

*

So you charge $150 / hour. Ya right. And what do you teach? Bull shit? 

I haven&#039;t done any this year, but over the past few years I have been tutoring High school students. Passing their grade was gratitude enough for me. I&#039;ve even had one come over and cut my grass for me when he found out I was ill. That meant more to me than money ever could.

It is easy to see that you could never really tutor others. Simply because it requires some knowledge about a subject. I don&#039;t think there is much demand to learn how to be an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#73, Cow-Paddy,</p>
<p><i>It’s okay J. I’m glad you are learning about America. There’s nothing shameful in having to learn. </i></p>
<p>Oh how so many of us wish you learn a little. Then you wouldn&#8217;t need to bullshit us so much.</p>
<p>For your information, there are 46 States in the United States of America. There are also four Commonwealths. These fifty entities are represented by the 50 stars on the flag and comprise the voting segment of the Congress. The District of Columbia is a Federal District. Anything else is a territory. </p>
<p>*</p>
<p>So you charge $150 / hour. Ya right. And what do you teach? Bull shit? </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t done any this year, but over the past few years I have been tutoring High school students. Passing their grade was gratitude enough for me. I&#8217;ve even had one come over and cut my grass for me when he found out I was ill. That meant more to me than money ever could.</p>
<p>It is easy to see that you could never really tutor others. Simply because it requires some knowledge about a subject. I don&#8217;t think there is much demand to learn how to be an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388376</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this blog every day, and what I can&#039;t hardly fathom is all these people who post about Senator Obama said 57 states and seriously comment as if he doesn&#039;t know how many states there are in the USA.  Seriously?  You must like to see yourself in print.  That mispeak is on your list of critics of the Senator?  It is so trivial as to boggle the mind that you take the time to blog about it an discuss it.  So much more is at stake.  Talk about anything else, please.  Something that matters, like his energy policy and reported reluctance about nuclear energy plants.  Or his education policy.

&quot;But that&#039;s what he said!&quot;  is such a useless defense.  &quot;Then he went to Hawaii, when he said he wasn&#039;t going to go&quot;...  pointless discussion.  As if that helps anyone determine who should be President.

Try to fathom if he would continue to erode our rights as the past eight years have seen, in order to make us safe.  Try to determine if he is in favor of the sham security we are subjected to at the airports.  Try to determine if he will secure the Mexican and Canadian borders.  Try to determine if he will go to war to protect Isreal.  Those are real issues.  Not some stupid statement about 57 states.

I sit in wonder of the web-fame-wanna-bees.

I think deep thought is beyond so many people that they latch on to the trivial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this blog every day, and what I can&#8217;t hardly fathom is all these people who post about Senator Obama said 57 states and seriously comment as if he doesn&#8217;t know how many states there are in the USA.  Seriously?  You must like to see yourself in print.  That mispeak is on your list of critics of the Senator?  It is so trivial as to boggle the mind that you take the time to blog about it an discuss it.  So much more is at stake.  Talk about anything else, please.  Something that matters, like his energy policy and reported reluctance about nuclear energy plants.  Or his education policy.</p>
<p>&#8220;But that&#8217;s what he said!&#8221;  is such a useless defense.  &#8220;Then he went to Hawaii, when he said he wasn&#8217;t going to go&#8221;&#8230;  pointless discussion.  As if that helps anyone determine who should be President.</p>
<p>Try to fathom if he would continue to erode our rights as the past eight years have seen, in order to make us safe.  Try to determine if he is in favor of the sham security we are subjected to at the airports.  Try to determine if he will secure the Mexican and Canadian borders.  Try to determine if he will go to war to protect Isreal.  Those are real issues.  Not some stupid statement about 57 states.</p>
<p>I sit in wonder of the web-fame-wanna-bees.</p>
<p>I think deep thought is beyond so many people that they latch on to the trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: JFech</title>
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		<dc:creator>JFech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is what I read in that blog post:

WAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

If you make comments about politics, be prepared for a retort(or 1000 of them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I read in that blog post:</p>
<p>WAAAAAHHHHH!!!!</p>
<p>If you make comments about politics, be prepared for a retort(or 1000 of them).</p>
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		<title>By: Montanaguy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388059</link>
		<dc:creator>Montanaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed that the Mr.Mustard, who I suspect is an Obamabot, hasn&#039;t botted this topic yet. He&#039;s probably short-circuited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed that the Mr.Mustard, who I suspect is an Obamabot, hasn&#8217;t botted this topic yet. He&#8217;s probably short-circuited.</p>
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		<title>By: GF</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1388039</link>
		<dc:creator>GF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, everybody knows that those 7 extra states are in the World of Warcraft - Obama edition. ;) 

I heard Acorn has signed up a ton of elves to vote too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, everybody knows that those 7 extra states are in the World of Warcraft &#8211; Obama edition. <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I heard Acorn has signed up a ton of elves to vote too.</p>
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		<title>By: hhopper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/20/obamabots-already-taking-over-the-place/comment-page-5/#comment-1387967</link>
		<dc:creator>hhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, do you think he really doesn&#039;t know how many states there are?

Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, do you think he really doesn&#8217;t know how many states there are?</p>
<p>Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79 What part of &quot;both of them&quot; didn&#039;t you get? The focus of the answer was on Obama &#039;cause this is a blogpost about him.

#80 How &#039;bout his &quot;good will&quot; to talk to assholes like chavez?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79 What part of &#8220;both of them&#8221; didn&#8217;t you get? The focus of the answer was on Obama &#8217;cause this is a blogpost about him.</p>
<p>#80 How &#8217;bout his &#8220;good will&#8221; to talk to assholes like chavez?</p>
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