Comments on: Get On Board The Atheist Bus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:39:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: QB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-4/#comment-1393885 QB Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:58:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393885 Paddy-O, you're so predictable. You equate atheism with an unhealthy society. Try thinking this way, a healthy society promotes personal freedom. See where that takes you and get back to me buddy. Paddy-O, you’re so predictable. You equate atheism with an unhealthy society.

Try thinking this way, a healthy society promotes personal freedom. See where that takes you and get back to me buddy.

]]> By: Floyd http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-4/#comment-1393880 Floyd Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:54:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393880 Mr. Mustard: "And while we’re at it, show me “a news article that says a group of believers in God attacked…”. The Bible is a good source. Lots of smiting and stoning and general killing of people in there by people that believed in some kind of imaginary deity, then recorded the killing in their holy book. You want something newer? Let's see: Ireland, Yugoslavia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran, Israel/Palestine, and of course, the rest of Europe (noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition). The funny thing is, they are all arguing and killing each other about how one is supposed to worship the same deity (Allah is just the Arabic word for God). Mr. Mustard:
“And while we’re at it, show me “a news article that says a group of believers in God attacked…”.

The Bible is a good source. Lots of smiting and stoning and general killing of people in there by people that believed in some kind of imaginary deity, then recorded the killing in their holy book.

You want something newer? Let’s see: Ireland, Yugoslavia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran, Israel/Palestine, and of course, the rest of Europe (noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition). The funny thing is, they are all arguing and killing each other about how one is supposed to worship the same deity (Allah is just the Arabic word for God).

]]> By: Sea Lawyer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-4/#comment-1393862 Sea Lawyer Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:25:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393862 #1, You can't say there definitely is no god, because it can't be verified; the best you can do is say that there probably isn't one. #1, You can’t say there definitely is no god, because it can’t be verified; the best you can do is say that there probably isn’t one.

]]> By: Paddy-O http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-4/#comment-1393861 Paddy-O Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:24:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393861 #47 QB "the old Communism == Atheism argument. So very, very old." And so very true. #47 QB “the old Communism == Atheism argument. So very, very old.”

And so very true.

]]> By: QB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393827 QB Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:56:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393827 Mustard said: "And while we’re at it, show me “a news article that says a group of believers in God attacked…”." This took 20 seconds to find <a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24549751-23109,00.html?from=public_rss" title="40 men gang-raped me, says nun | World Breaking News | News.com.au" rel="nofollow">particularly ugly</a>. Like the woman I linked above, it's racial. Mustard, faith on it's own is fine. You want to believe what you believe, that's just ducky. The minute it mixes with politics, race, or class it turns into a nasty, violent mix. Mustard said: “And while we’re at it, show me “a news article that says a group of believers in God attacked…”.”

This took 20 seconds to find particularly ugly.

Like the woman I linked above, it’s racial. Mustard, faith on it’s own is fine. You want to believe what you believe, that’s just ducky. The minute it mixes with politics, race, or class it turns into a nasty, violent mix.

]]> By: Improbus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393793 Improbus Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:18:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393793 @MM Seen any news from the Middle East recently? Jeez. @MM

Seen any news from the Middle East recently? Jeez.

]]> By: Mister Mustard http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393735 Mister Mustard Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:42:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393735 #42 - Cubie >>No I don’t. When I see a news article that >>says “a group of atheists attacked…” then >>I’ll believe it. You can't really be asserting that groups of atheists have never killed innocent victims in cold blood. Can you? And while we're at it, show me "a news article that says a group of believers in God attacked...". Hm? #42 – Cubie

>>No I don’t. When I see a news article that
>>says “a group of atheists attacked…” then
>>I’ll believe it.

You can’t really be asserting that groups of atheists have never killed innocent victims in cold blood. Can you?

And while we’re at it, show me “a news article that says a group of believers in God attacked…”.

Hm?

]]> By: DCI Gene Hunt http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393687 DCI Gene Hunt Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:43:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393687 Anyone who thinks people would be less bloodthirsty or less likely to kill each other if they didn't have religion is pretty naive. Humans have used religion as a good excuse for many a war, but there are also many wars (and much killing) that has nothing to do with religion. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with religion. The first and second world wars had nothing to do with religion. Vietnam war had nothing to do with religion. Falklands war was not religious. The American civil war was none-religious. Somalia has gone through civil war after civil war which have nothing to do with religion. It'd be nice if it was as simple as taking away religion, and we'd all live happily ever after in peace, but I am afraid that just isn't going to happen. Take away religion and humans will cling to non-God based dogma (Marxism, Fascism, or any other ism) and kill each other over that, or they'll just kill each other over land, or history or culture. Humans don't need war in order to kill other, its just a convenient excuse sometimes. Anyone who thinks people would be less bloodthirsty or less likely to kill each other if they didn’t have religion is pretty naive. Humans have used religion as a good excuse for many a war, but there are also many wars (and much killing) that has nothing to do with religion. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with religion. The first and second world wars had nothing to do with religion. Vietnam war had nothing to do with religion. Falklands war was not religious. The American civil war was none-religious. Somalia has gone through civil war after civil war which have nothing to do with religion.

It’d be nice if it was as simple as taking away religion, and we’d all live happily ever after in peace, but I am afraid that just isn’t going to happen. Take away religion and humans will cling to non-God based dogma (Marxism, Fascism, or any other ism) and kill each other over that, or they’ll just kill each other over land, or history or culture.

Humans don’t need war in order to kill other, its just a convenient excuse sometimes.

]]> By: Greg Allen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393580 Greg Allen Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:37:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393580 Bobbo, I didn't see the video but I assume it would be anecdotal evidence, anyway. I remember, as a kid, that Christians would cite Madalyn Murray O'Hair as evidence that atheists were unhappy nuts, likely to be killed by their own crazed followers. As for me, I don't think belief or non-belief is tied to any particular superiority or inferiority. But, these atheist supremacists give me the creeps. The last time my people heard such talk of the superiority of atheism, we were slaughtered by the thousands, put in camps, and driven from our homes by people who were supposedly more evolved than we. Bobbo,

I didn’t see the video but I assume it would be anecdotal evidence, anyway.

I remember, as a kid, that Christians would cite Madalyn Murray O’Hair as evidence that atheists were unhappy nuts, likely to be killed by their own crazed followers.

As for me, I don’t think belief or non-belief is tied to any particular superiority or inferiority.

But, these atheist supremacists give me the creeps.

The last time my people heard such talk of the superiority of atheism, we were slaughtered by the thousands, put in camps, and driven from our homes by people who were supposedly more evolved than we.

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393566 bobbo Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:13:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393566 #54--Greg==thats a good question. Depends a lot on what you would accept as "empirical evidence?" And further, how to define "enjoy life." Its further complicated by the fact that many people who are religious have a firm unshakeable faith that removes many conflicts from their appreciation of life--see QB's Video of the Year above at #48. If that woman is "happy" then you have won the argument but also convinced me I'd rather have the moral angst caused by being conscious. #54–Greg==thats a good question. Depends a lot on what you would accept as “empirical evidence?” And further, how to define “enjoy life.”

Its further complicated by the fact that many people who are religious have a firm unshakeable faith that removes many conflicts from their appreciation of life–see QB’s Video of the Year above at #48.

If that woman is “happy” then you have won the argument but also convinced me I’d rather have the moral angst caused by being conscious.

]]> By: Greg Allen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393547 Greg Allen Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:35:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393547 Is there any empirical evidence to believe that "believers" worry more or enjoy life less than atheists? Or is this just another faith-based assumption by atheists? Is there any empirical evidence to believe that “believers” worry more or enjoy life less than atheists?

Or is this just another faith-based assumption by atheists?

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393518 Jägermeister Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:16:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393518 #52 - QB LOL #52 – QB

LOL

]]> By: QB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393515 QB Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:10:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393515 Sorry guys, but I'm getting Jager back for yesterday. I may be impotent for a month because of him. Sorry guys, but I’m getting Jager back for yesterday. I may be impotent for a month because of him.

]]> By: Special Ed http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393508 Special Ed Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:55:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393508 #48 - Oh man she is hideous. I'll need a gallon of eye bleach. You know her husband was thinking, "can't you just STFU!?" #48 – Oh man she is hideous. I’ll need a gallon of eye bleach. You know her husband was thinking, “can’t you just STFU!?”

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/10/26/get-on-board-the-athiest-bus/comment-page-3/#comment-1393484 Jägermeister Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:27:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=29188#comment-1393484 #48 - QB What a dumb bitch. #48 – QB

What a dumb bitch.

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