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	<title>Comments on: $30 a Barrel Oil</title>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-2/#comment-1416536</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53 - Scottie

&gt;&gt;It happens to be my own failed link. 
&gt;&gt;But, you posted a link.

Paddy O&#039;Pinocchio is very derivative.  He can only follow someone else&#039;s lead, even if his leader makes a mistake.  I&#039;ve been waiting with bated breath for him to ever post a link of his own, but I got light-headed from hypoxia and and to give up.  He has no links anyway.  He just makes up all that shit he posts.  No need to tell the truth when you&#039;re Paddy O&#039;Pinocchio.  That 4mpg stretch limo he rides in back and forth to his job at Radio Shack has plenty of room for his nose, no matter how long it grows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53 &#8211; Scottie</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;It happens to be my own failed link.<br />
&gt;&gt;But, you posted a link.</p>
<p>Paddy O&#8217;Pinocchio is very derivative.  He can only follow someone else&#8217;s lead, even if his leader makes a mistake.  I&#8217;ve been waiting with bated breath for him to ever post a link of his own, but I got light-headed from hypoxia and and to give up.  He has no links anyway.  He just makes up all that shit he posts.  No need to tell the truth when you&#8217;re Paddy O&#8217;Pinocchio.  That 4mpg stretch limo he rides in back and forth to his job at Radio Shack has plenty of room for his nose, no matter how long it grows.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-2/#comment-1416514</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51 - MikeN,

How about the war in Iraq. Surely you&#039;re not going to claim that there&#039;s some other reason we&#039;re there, right? How about all of the money we spend around the world to keep the oil wells safe so that ExxonMobil can get to the oil?

Do those count? Does the money from Ex/Im bank count? Even if other corps get it too, corporate welfare is corporate welfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51 &#8211; MikeN,</p>
<p>How about the war in Iraq. Surely you&#8217;re not going to claim that there&#8217;s some other reason we&#8217;re there, right? How about all of the money we spend around the world to keep the oil wells safe so that ExxonMobil can get to the oil?</p>
<p>Do those count? Does the money from Ex/Im bank count? Even if other corps get it too, corporate welfare is corporate welfare.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-2/#comment-1416478</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50 - Paddy-O,

Yay me!! I finally taught you to post a link. It happens to be my own failed link. But, you posted a link.

Here. Try it without the tinyurl.

www.icta.org/doc/Real%20Price%20of%20Gasoline.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50 &#8211; Paddy-O,</p>
<p>Yay me!! I finally taught you to post a link. It happens to be my own failed link. But, you posted a link.</p>
<p>Here. Try it without the tinyurl.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.icta.org/doc/Real%20Price%20of%20Gasoline.pdf" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.icta.org/doc/Real%20Price%20of%20Gasoline.pdf' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.icta.org/doc/Real%20Price%20of%20Gasoline.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-2/#comment-1416391</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50, laugh out loud, he blames you for not knowing how to post a link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50, laugh out loud, he blames you for not knowing how to post a link!</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-2/#comment-1416177</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A link that actually works would help.  Most of those studies are bogus, taking tax credits used by all companies as special subsidies for oil companies.  I&#039;ve even seen one study that claimed spending money on roads and bridges was a subsidy for the oil companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A link that actually works would help.  Most of those studies are bogus, taking tax credits used by all companies as special subsidies for oil companies.  I&#8217;ve even seen one study that claimed spending money on roads and bridges was a subsidy for the oil companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1416167</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 49 Misanthropic Scott said,  &quot;I knew that you did not know how to post a link. I assumed you’d know how to read one. My mistake. The answer is in the link in the post.&quot;

What an idiot. Here&#039;s the result of your link...

The page - www.google.com/url%3Fsa%3Dt&amp;source%3Dweb&amp;ct%3Dres&amp;cd%3D1&amp;url%3Dhttp:%2F%2Fwww.icta.org%2Fdoc%2FReal%2520Price%2520of%2520Gasoline.pdf&amp;ei%3DFq4hSeykFofcer2o1dIG&amp;usg%3DAFQjCNHqvQpmGxj5plGuZA0LHFx192gcKw&amp;sig2%3D7GoqNYCs6plhH2906GvgNw - does not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 49 Misanthropic Scott said,  &#8220;I knew that you did not know how to post a link. I assumed you’d know how to read one. My mistake. The answer is in the link in the post.&#8221;</p>
<p>What an idiot. Here&#8217;s the result of your link&#8230;</p>
<p>The page &#8211; <a href="http://www.google.com/url%3Fsa%3Dt&amp;source%3Dweb&amp;ct%3Dres&amp;cd%3D1&amp;url%3Dhttp:%2F%2Fwww.icta.org%2Fdoc%2FReal%2520Price%2520of%2520Gasoline.pdf&amp;ei%3DFq4hSeykFofcer2o1dIG&amp;usg%3DAFQjCNHqvQpmGxj5plGuZA0LHFx192gcKw&amp;sig2%3D7GoqNYCs6plhH2906GvgNw" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.google.com/url%3Fsa%3Dt&amp;source%3Dweb&amp;ct%3Dres&amp;cd%3D1&amp;url%3Dhttp:%2F%2Fwww.icta.org%2Fdoc%2FReal%2520Price%2520of%2520Gasoline.pdf&amp;ei%3DFq4hSeykFofcer2o1dIG&amp;usg%3DAFQjCNHqvQpmGxj5plGuZA0LHFx192gcKw&amp;sig2%3D7GoqNYCs6plhH2906GvgNw' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/url%3Fsa%3Dt&amp;source%3Dweb&amp;ct%3Dres&amp;cd%3D1&amp;url%3Dhttp:%2F%2Fwww.icta.org%2Fdoc%2FReal%2520Price%2520of%2520Gasoline.pdf&amp;ei%3DFq4hSeykFofcer2o1dIG&amp;usg%3DAFQjCNHqvQpmGxj5plGuZA0LHFx192gcKw&amp;sig2%3D7GoqNYCs6plhH2906GvgNw</a> &#8211; does not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1416162</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#46 - Paddy-O,

&lt;i&gt;# 45 Misanthropic Scott said, ” I am subsidizing the majority of the cost of said butthead’s fuel in my tax bill.”

And how does THAT work exactly?&lt;/i&gt;

I knew that you did not know how to post a link. I assumed you&#039;d know how to read one. My mistake. The answer is in the link in the post. I&#039;m not going to post the entire text of a large PDF.

#47 - MikeN,

&lt;i&gt;He means that he is paying taxes that that guy could have been paying in gas taxes.&lt;/i&gt;

No. I mean that I am literally paying about 80% of the cost of the gallon of gasoline. Read the link.

#48 - Paddy-O,

&lt;i&gt;That’s hilarious and assumes you WANT a gov’t with run away spending.&lt;/i&gt;

No. It means I want the government to STOP run away spending of my money on oil. It means I want the costs paid for on the spot by the consumer, rather than in my income tax bill after filtering it through a corrupt government hell-bent on burning as much oil as possible because they get kickbacks from the oil companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#46 &#8211; Paddy-O,</p>
<p><i># 45 Misanthropic Scott said, ” I am subsidizing the majority of the cost of said butthead’s fuel in my tax bill.”</p>
<p>And how does THAT work exactly?</i></p>
<p>I knew that you did not know how to post a link. I assumed you&#8217;d know how to read one. My mistake. The answer is in the link in the post. I&#8217;m not going to post the entire text of a large PDF.</p>
<p>#47 &#8211; MikeN,</p>
<p><i>He means that he is paying taxes that that guy could have been paying in gas taxes.</i></p>
<p>No. I mean that I am literally paying about 80% of the cost of the gallon of gasoline. Read the link.</p>
<p>#48 &#8211; Paddy-O,</p>
<p><i>That’s hilarious and assumes you WANT a gov’t with run away spending.</i></p>
<p>No. It means I want the government to STOP run away spending of my money on oil. It means I want the costs paid for on the spot by the consumer, rather than in my income tax bill after filtering it through a corrupt government hell-bent on burning as much oil as possible because they get kickbacks from the oil companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1416053</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 47 MikeN said,  &quot;He means that he is paying taxes that that guy could have been paying in gas taxes.&quot;

That&#039;s hilarious and assumes you WANT a gov&#039;t with run away spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 47 MikeN said,  &#8220;He means that he is paying taxes that that guy could have been paying in gas taxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s hilarious and assumes you WANT a gov&#8217;t with run away spending.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1416049</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He means that he is paying taxes that that guy could have been paying in gas taxes.

I&#039;d rather have $25 oil sometimes with fluctuations than a fixed $100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He means that he is paying taxes that that guy could have been paying in gas taxes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have $25 oil sometimes with fluctuations than a fixed $100.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1416017</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 45 Misanthropic Scott said,  &quot; I am subsidizing the majority of the cost of said butthead’s fuel in my tax bill.&quot;

And how does THAT work exactly?  Unless, you are talking about Oil companies not paying mineral rights payments like Palin enforced and raised in AK.

But, that would be very little as most of our oil is from foreign sources</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 45 Misanthropic Scott said,  &#8221; I am subsidizing the majority of the cost of said butthead’s fuel in my tax bill.&#8221;</p>
<p>And how does THAT work exactly?  Unless, you are talking about Oil companies not paying mineral rights payments like Palin enforced and raised in AK.</p>
<p>But, that would be very little as most of our oil is from foreign sources</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1416005</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 - MikeN,

&lt;i&gt;#25, that doesn’t prevent fluctuations above your price floor. You just don’t like cheap oil.

To prevent fluctuations, they should fix the dollar to gold, and it would add some stability.&lt;/i&gt;

Fixing the dollar to gold might be a good idea. However, setting a price floor quite obviously does take away a lot of the range of the fluctuation. If the floor is set at $100, then the range of prices may be from $100 - $140 or so. If there is no floor, then the range is $25 - $140. Of course the latter is more of a fluctuation.

And, yes, I don&#039;t like cheap oil because there&#039;s no such thing as cheap oil. The price per barrel is low because the vast majority of the costs are externalized. If some butthead is driving around in a Humper, Naggravator, Land Bruiser, or whatever, I am subsidizing the majority of the cost of said butthead&#039;s fuel in my tax bill.

Tell me why I should be happy about that?

http://tinyurl.com/6y847h</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 &#8211; MikeN,</p>
<p><i>#25, that doesn’t prevent fluctuations above your price floor. You just don’t like cheap oil.</p>
<p>To prevent fluctuations, they should fix the dollar to gold, and it would add some stability.</i></p>
<p>Fixing the dollar to gold might be a good idea. However, setting a price floor quite obviously does take away a lot of the range of the fluctuation. If the floor is set at $100, then the range of prices may be from $100 &#8211; $140 or so. If there is no floor, then the range is $25 &#8211; $140. Of course the latter is more of a fluctuation.</p>
<p>And, yes, I don&#8217;t like cheap oil because there&#8217;s no such thing as cheap oil. The price per barrel is low because the vast majority of the costs are externalized. If some butthead is driving around in a Humper, Naggravator, Land Bruiser, or whatever, I am subsidizing the majority of the cost of said butthead&#8217;s fuel in my tax bill.</p>
<p>Tell me why I should be happy about that?</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6y847h" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/6y847h' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/6y847h</a></p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1415623</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43 Sorry for Canada, but I really hope it falls below 30. Although I must admit I don&#039;t think is gonna happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 Sorry for Canada, but I really hope it falls below 30. Although I must admit I don&#8217;t think is gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1415196</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the farmer already spent his money on high priced feed due to high priced fuel last summer you aren&#039;t going to get cheap food instantly. Get over it.

What scares me is that the tar sands of Canada aren&#039;t worth mining at $30.00 a barrel. If that closes... we are back to middle east oil and the price will go up even in a down economy. 

Besides its the world economy that matters not just you own local pond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the farmer already spent his money on high priced feed due to high priced fuel last summer you aren&#8217;t going to get cheap food instantly. Get over it.</p>
<p>What scares me is that the tar sands of Canada aren&#8217;t worth mining at $30.00 a barrel. If that closes&#8230; we are back to middle east oil and the price will go up even in a down economy. </p>
<p>Besides its the world economy that matters not just you own local pond.</p>
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		<title>By: Stars &#38; Bars</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/11/15/30-a-barrel-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-1414959</link>
		<dc:creator>Stars &#38; Bars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 Mr. CommieFusion

I can do better then that!  Here it is from the Bitch&#039;s Mouth!!!

&quot;We have also focused on the problem of redlining by lenders and insurance companies. This past August we reached an agreement with Allbank of New York. We alleged that the bank had carved out and refused to make loans in urban minority enclaves within the bank&#039;s lending areas in Connecticut and Westchester County, New York. The settlement with Allbank requires it to make $55 million in loans at below-market rate in the areas previously redlined.&quot;

http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/ag/speeches/1998/0320_agcom.htm

Assault on the mortgage lenders: in the name of racial justice, the Clintonites want the power to decide who gets a home of his own - efforts to impose regulations on banks to make loans even if applicants are not creditworthy.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n25_v45/ai_14779796

Here is a speech by Puppet-elect Obama.
http://tinyurl.com/4y866x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 Mr. CommieFusion</p>
<p>I can do better then that!  Here it is from the Bitch&#8217;s Mouth!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;We have also focused on the problem of redlining by lenders and insurance companies. This past August we reached an agreement with Allbank of New York. We alleged that the bank had carved out and refused to make loans in urban minority enclaves within the bank&#8217;s lending areas in Connecticut and Westchester County, New York. The settlement with Allbank requires it to make $55 million in loans at below-market rate in the areas previously redlined.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/ag/speeches/1998/0320_agcom.htm" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/ag/speeches/1998/0320_agcom.htm' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/ag/speeches/1998/0320_agcom.htm</a></p>
<p>Assault on the mortgage lenders: in the name of racial justice, the Clintonites want the power to decide who gets a home of his own &#8211; efforts to impose regulations on banks to make loans even if applicants are not creditworthy.</p>
<p><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n25_v45/ai_14779796" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n25_v45/ai_14779796' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n25_v45/ai_14779796</a></p>
<p>Here is a speech by Puppet-elect Obama.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/4y866x" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/4y866x' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/4y866x</a></p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 Use Da Google, Luke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 Use Da Google, Luke.</p>
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