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A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore’s chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.
This was startling. Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever”. In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.
So what explained the anomaly? GISS’s computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.
The key point this article makes is not that a mistake was made — that can happen. It’s that Gore’s guy screwed up. Again. And showing higher global warming figures (which, oddly, support his theories) than anyone else. Global warming is happening, but with inaccurate or falsified data, how can we determine why? Or is panic the goal?
But whether, on the basis of such evidence, it is wise for the world’s governments to embark on some of the most costly economic measures ever proposed, to remedy a problem which may actually not exist, is a question which should give us all pause for thought.
Arguing facts with a global warming believer is as pointless as arguing evolution with a born again Christian.
I think the “global warmers” should have to register with the government as a religion if they wish to keep their tax exempt status.
Global warming in a nutshell:
“You always wanted to blame someone else for the weather: now you can!”
what..? nobody knows about the global
warming, er, climate change con and the
political money scams behind it?
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#11 read this..
http://snurl.com/5oxqu [www_newsbusters_org]
Denial and distraction kept Billy in a fantasy world of his own creation. This was fortunate for him as it was his destiny to die a slow painful death. Ignorance is the universe’s method of weeding out the inadequate, it provides the context for elimination.
Maybe politicians take advantage of the issues, well duh; that doesn’t make an issue false.
Maybe climate change is too big for the human race to handle. So let’s not even try then?
Maybe climate change is false, sure, polar icecaps, permafrost, and almost all glaciers melting, sheesh – talk about denial.
Maybe climate change is a good thing. Ask a meteorologist that knows and he’ll tell you these changes preceeded the iceages.
I get it now.
Al Gore and his buddies figured out a way to make some money based on climate change.
Ergo, climate change is not happening. Glaciers are not receding. Permafrost is not melting. The Gulf Current is not slowing.
As Chip Diller said, “Remain calm. All is well!”
Why is that house on fire?
# 44 John C Dvorak said, “#11 read this..
http://snurl.com/5oxqu [www_newsbusters_org]”
Always, follow the money & never listen to what spews from their spokesholes.
Even if it was carried over data, people act as if when areas get snow while the overall average temp of the planet goes up, there’s no global warming. Warm air in other areas cause moisture to come to those colder areas and dump snow.
#15, Cow-Paddy,
As usual, you know not of what you speak. Next I suppose you are going to tell us that you have visited and traveled extensively through Northern Canada and can personally attest. I’ll even bet you thought of telling us the Constitution forbids the Ice Age to remove top soil.
As is evident by your answer, you haven’t traveled OR know or understand what the Ice Age did to the land. You also know very little about climatology.
Let me give you a little hint what just a couple of degrees in temperature will do. While the north might get more temperate, the arid belt will increase in size. That means areas that now get minimal rainfall to raise crops, for example Eastern Colorado, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Utah, and Idaho will get less rain and be even hotter in the summer. Their summers will resemble today’s Arizona, New Mexico, and Western Texas. The good news is that Anchorage and Yellowknife will be warmer.
#26, Confederate Traitor,
Alaska Glaciers,
For the first time in the area’s recorded history, area glaciers have begun to expand, rather than shrink. Summer temperatures, which were some 3 degrees below average, allowed record levels of winter snow to remain much longer, leading to the increase in glacial mass.
Don’t confuse seasonal aberrations with a trend. The glaciers are still much smaller than just a few years ago. In sports this would be analogous to “One win doesn’t make a dynasty”.
Unusually large amounts of winter snow were followed by unusually chill temperatures in June, July and August.
Tim Ball (Canada Free Press) is paid by the oil companies to spew his garbage. He has no credibility in the Climatology field BUT makes a good source for deniers that want an “educated” denier. The CFP is a rogue news outlet run by conservatives that prefer their news FOX SPEWS style. Outlets of this type have no problems with “experts” like Ball.
Andrew Bolt
My largest problem with this is that it wouldn’t open. However, searching for another link to the PDF, I cam across what appears to be a line by line refutation of his story. BTW, you do realize that Bolt is a right wing nut columnist, not a climatologist, that apparently isn’t that well liked because he is a bully. It seems that in a face to face Al Gore put him in his place in August, 2006, when he pulled his act on him.
NPR story,
Let’s review what the article actually said.
…it could mean scientists aren’t quite understanding what their robots are telling them.
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So with the oceans not warming, you would expect to see less sea level rise. Instead, sea level has risen about half an inch in the past four years. That’s a lot.
So they admit they don’t understand what the data is telling them.
#49 Yawn. I gave facts. You rant with noting to refute in response. Typical.
#44, JCD,
So what the hell does Al Gore have to do with Global Warming? Is the cause? I notice so many people like to dump it all in his lap.
Just another hit piece where you shoot the messenger instead of refuting the message. Al Gore must have pissed in a lot of lunch bags to have garnered so much hate.
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The facts remain, NOT as idiots that write newspaper columns, or read the weather forecast on TV pretend, but real, peer reviewed facts.
So many disillusioned people. So upset because their boys put us in a global recession and now they want to blame it all on Al Gore.
Sorry for anyone who thinks otherwise, but global warming is real. One thing about energy systems though is if you put more energy into a system you will have higher highs and lower lows; in other words, things become more unstable, even if the average rises or stays the same. In our case, we are getting warmer. But the nice thing about actually thinking and using real data gathered over a long period of time though, you can prepare for the worst and do something about it. That way if the worst doesn’t happen, you were at least prepared for it. For anyone who thinks this is a waste of money, it’s not more so than an illegal war AND it will actually help us in the long run even if wrong about warming (which it isn’t). You can’t say that about the war even if they’re right (which they aren’t).
Yep, keep pointing at small little things as proof when the 99+% shows otherwise. He should correct his error if this article is even right (which it may not be, lying being chief among neocon abilities) and show then that, yep we’re still on an general upward trend. After all, just because you don’t go up every year, doesn’t mean that you haven’t gone up on most others and you won’t still go up next time. It’s like the stock market right now; it is going generally down since a year ago but may still go up on any one given day.
>Just another hit piece where you shoot the messenger instead of refuting the message.
That’s what Al Gore does. They love to talk bad about anyone who is skeptical of what they say.
#54, Lyin’ Mike,
The difference is that the deniers don’t have any facts. They invent them. So instead of refuting anything Al Gore has said, they just tell us that he is fat, the SS wastes a lot of electricity at his house, yda, yada, yada. They can’t produce any real facts.
“Stars and Bars” aka, the Confederate Traitor, did produce something. Yet he took his information mostly from two ignorant sources and one source that said they just don’t understand it.
Only a wing nut would deny the overwhelming evidence.
#3 Alex,
If global warming is due to natural causes, a huge source of revenue for activists disappears.
Anyone who wants to make money on the global warming industry has only to state that global warming is not happening or is not human caused and the hugely deep pockets of ExxonMobil and of big coal will be made available. There’s nowhere near that quantity of money in all of the 501c3s in the world.
#6 Paddy-O,
So, with global warming happening (whatever the reason) has anyone compiled the data of how much land in Asia & N. America will be opened up for crop growth that was previously too cold? Also, additional habitable area in those same regions?
And just where do you think the topsoil will come from? Places that are currently too cold for crops do not have the level of topsoil that the current growing range does.
Further, yes, the science shows that as the planet warms there will be reduced potential for food growth. Already, we are losing $5 billion per year due to climate change.
http://tinyurl.com/56zfbk
#15 Cow-Paddy again,
# 15 Paddy-O said, on November 16th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
# 10 Mr. Fusion said, “Very little. Most of the land has been scraped clean by the Ice Age glaciers.”
Really? Some of the most productive farmland in the Mid-west US was under the ice sheet. Doesn’t look like it effected it much.
As I thought. There will be lots of extra farmland in N. America & Asia. And, with warmer temp, more precipitation. So, other than losing some coastline and some warmer temps, N America will do quite well.
Actually, as expected, Mr. Fusion is right. The low arctic in Canada has a thin layer of grasses on top of rock. And, all of those beautiful lakes that would provide the water for agriculture are held in place by permafrost. When the permafrost melts, you’ll be looking at a very dry landscape.
But, feel free to post a link to some peer reviewed data suggesting otherwise.
Oh yeah. You don’t know how to post a link. I forgot.
# 56 Misanthropic Scott said, “”Actually, as expected, Mr. Fusion is right. The low arctic in Canada has a thin layer of grasses on top of rock.”
Actually, as expected, you are wrong. CONFusion wasn’t talking about the “low Artic”. He was talking about areas covered by the last ice sheet.
Thanks for playing however.
There is a nice box of Rice-a-Roni for you.
Also, an “Electricity for Dummies” book…
No the deniers have plenty of facts. Perhaps you should reread the original post. Facts that get criticized by the likes of Gore with shoot the messenger type attacks. If Gore and Co had been successful, the current state of the science would be different. It wasn’t peer-review that determined that 1998 is not the warmest year on record(it’s 1934). The hockey stick wasn’t demolished by peer-review.
forget about.
THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING. GO AHEAD AND POLLUTE EVERYTHING. GO BUY THE BIGGEST SUV THEY MAKE AND JUST LEAVE IT IDLING IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. LEAVE EVERY LIGHT IN YOUR HOUSE ON. JACK UP YOUR THERMOSTAT TO 80. QUIT TRYING TO GO SOLAR. SCREW WINDMILLS. GET FIVE CHIMERAS AND BURN COAL IN THEM 24X7. GIVE EVERY CENT YOU OWN TO SAUDI ARABIA AND HUGO CHAVEZ. CUT DOWN EVERY SINGLE TREE ON PLANET EARTH. DRAIN THE SWAMPS AND WETLANDS. YOU ARE A ROCKET SCIENTIST AND I NO LONGER CARE.
hooray for you.
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It is a version of Brain Death to assume that a record cold winter is not the product of global warming. Global Warming does not mean that every instance of temperature on every square inch of Earth will be X-number of degrees warmer. It means the AVERAGE temperature of all square inches goes up.
More than that, it means the balance has been tipped off nominal center.
Some areas will be fiercely out of whack. The extremes might shut down the North Atlantic Tractor Currents and precipitate an ice age. Nature might use the “warming” as the trigger for ten thousand years of trouble.
What we do know for sure is that humanity has the brains to back off and develop alternative energy resources, but perhaps not the will.
The Earth will survive. Humanity may not.
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