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		<title>By: SnotLikeBlasterpoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>SnotLikeBlasterpoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 - Humans going into space is the most important thing that&#039;s ever happened.  You mention monitoring &quot;Earth&quot;.  Earth is tiny, unimportant speck is a much larger universe.  For mankind to survive it must spread out.  Stop thinking small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 &#8211; Humans going into space is the most important thing that&#8217;s ever happened.  You mention monitoring &#8220;Earth&#8221;.  Earth is tiny, unimportant speck is a much larger universe.  For mankind to survive it must spread out.  Stop thinking small.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griffin had better get his resume&#039; ready.  Obama will be getting rid of everybody.  I think Gates will be the only survivor and his job is temporary at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griffin had better get his resume&#8217; ready.  Obama will be getting rid of everybody.  I think Gates will be the only survivor and his job is temporary at best.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the moment this guy doesn&#039;t have to tell Obama or his people jack however this in no way to treat your next boss if you expect to keep your job.

I can only assume this guy expects to get fired anyway and wants to delay the investigation until after he is terminated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment this guy doesn&#8217;t have to tell Obama or his people jack however this in no way to treat your next boss if you expect to keep your job.</p>
<p>I can only assume this guy expects to get fired anyway and wants to delay the investigation until after he is terminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASA has been screwed with by pols for decades.  Until the politicians stopped micromanaging it it&#039;ll never move forward.

In other words, NASA will remain the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA has been screwed with by pols for decades.  Until the politicians stopped micromanaging it it&#8217;ll never move forward.</p>
<p>In other words, NASA will remain the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The obvious question is, why is someone that smart in an administrative position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obvious question is, why is someone that smart in an administrative position?</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting how (almost) no one is taking the left/right bait from the editor. Way to stay on topic guys.

Personally, I think Griffin is trying to be a hero for a lot of NASA-lifers who are tired of being lead around by the executive branch. He knows he&#039;ll lose... but going out a hero is better than going out as Bush&#039;s lackey.

As for NASA itself, I&#039;ve yet to hear a really good case... beyond &quot;it&#039;s cheaper&quot;... for the shuttle replacement coming in a few years. NASA is in need of an intellectual bailout; new thinking, new ideas, and new ambition. Who knows if its going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how (almost) no one is taking the left/right bait from the editor. Way to stay on topic guys.</p>
<p>Personally, I think Griffin is trying to be a hero for a lot of NASA-lifers who are tired of being lead around by the executive branch. He knows he&#8217;ll lose&#8230; but going out a hero is better than going out as Bush&#8217;s lackey.</p>
<p>As for NASA itself, I&#8217;ve yet to hear a really good case&#8230; beyond &#8220;it&#8217;s cheaper&#8221;&#8230; for the shuttle replacement coming in a few years. NASA is in need of an intellectual bailout; new thinking, new ideas, and new ambition. Who knows if its going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep-Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep-Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President ELECT the new super power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President ELECT the new super power?</p>
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		<title>By: RTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>RTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASA does need to be restructured. Griffin is just in a pissing contest which he&#039;ll lose. He serves at the pleasure of the President. Humans beyond low Earth orbit are too expensive for a single nation.  NASA&#039;s budget will probably take significant hits as the economic crises worsens, which it will.  The budget doesn&#039;t amount to much, but cuts will be symbolic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA does need to be restructured. Griffin is just in a pissing contest which he&#8217;ll lose. He serves at the pleasure of the President. Humans beyond low Earth orbit are too expensive for a single nation.  NASA&#8217;s budget will probably take significant hits as the economic crises worsens, which it will.  The budget doesn&#8217;t amount to much, but cuts will be symbolic.</p>
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		<title>By: mthrnite</title>
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		<dc:creator>mthrnite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rat done bit my sister Nell...

etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rat done bit my sister Nell&#8230;</p>
<p>etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21, You are a moron. I don&#039;t know what else to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21, You are a moron. I don&#8217;t know what else to say.</p>
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		<title>By: dg</title>
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		<dc:creator>dg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not qualified&quot; is a cop-out.

If you cannot explain technical issues to any university-educated person clearly enough for them to understand it, then YOU are the idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not qualified&#8221; is a cop-out.</p>
<p>If you cannot explain technical issues to any university-educated person clearly enough for them to understand it, then YOU are the idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sending Humans into space COSTS TOO MUCH !!!  Too much of the Payload goes to Life Support - would be more profitable to send ROBOTS with more instrumentation !!!  No Life Support - air, water, food, urine-recycling machines, etc ...  I don&#039;t even want to ask how they will recycle solid human waste - YECH !!!  And of course, NO LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE in the event of the predictable rocket failure - just build another robot !!!  So Obama can kill the Constellation, and have NASA build more satellites to monitor Earth and global warming and CO2 Pollution !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sending Humans into space COSTS TOO MUCH !!!  Too much of the Payload goes to Life Support &#8211; would be more profitable to send ROBOTS with more instrumentation !!!  No Life Support &#8211; air, water, food, urine-recycling machines, etc &#8230;  I don&#8217;t even want to ask how they will recycle solid human waste &#8211; YECH !!!  And of course, NO LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE in the event of the predictable rocket failure &#8211; just build another robot !!!  So Obama can kill the Constellation, and have NASA build more satellites to monitor Earth and global warming and CO2 Pollution !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 - Lyin&#039; Mike

&gt;&gt;Right now Obama has no position in the 
&gt;&gt;government. He is president-elect only.

So then why are you wingnuts bitching and moaning about him all the time?

As to Obama&#039;s status, if he did NOT seek information, and walked into meetings like Dumbya, with pretzel crumbs on his suit and not a thought in his  head, say &quot;So.  What are we talking about here? Huh?&quot;, you&#039;d bitch and moan about him.  When he tries to do things the right way, and gather information on programs he&#039;ll be responsible for, you bitch and moan about him.

Why not just STFU and wait the 39 days until he takes office, THEN see what he does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 &#8211; Lyin&#8217; Mike</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Right now Obama has no position in the<br />
&gt;&gt;government. He is president-elect only.</p>
<p>So then why are you wingnuts bitching and moaning about him all the time?</p>
<p>As to Obama&#8217;s status, if he did NOT seek information, and walked into meetings like Dumbya, with pretzel crumbs on his suit and not a thought in his  head, say &#8220;So.  What are we talking about here? Huh?&#8221;, you&#8217;d bitch and moan about him.  When he tries to do things the right way, and gather information on programs he&#8217;ll be responsible for, you bitch and moan about him.</p>
<p>Why not just STFU and wait the 39 days until he takes office, THEN see what he does?</p>
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		<title>By: GetSmart</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetSmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the Civil Service Missile! It won&#039;t work and you can&#039;t fire it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the Civil Service Missile! It won&#8217;t work and you can&#8217;t fire it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, two of the best arguments I can provide FOR Griffin are the following:

&quot;Ms. Garver received her Masters degree in &lt;b&gt;Science, Technology, and Public Policy&lt;/b&gt; from the George Washington University in 1989, and her Bachelors degree in &lt;b&gt;Political Science and Economics&lt;/b&gt; from Colorado College in 1983.&quot;
The important part of this is: she&#039;s not even a technical person, much less a scientist or engineer.  I see people with business or marketing (or economics or whatever non-technical) degrees making decisions around at work (NASA) on nearly a daily basis, and it&#039;s the cause for a very large part of the b.s. we have to go through.  Non-technical people giving marching orders on technical subjects is bad, plain and simple.

&quot;Garver has served as a lead space policy advisor for the Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry campaigns for president.&quot;
Her assistance has been far from non-partisan, and she just happens to have sided with the party that chooses big spending for welfare programs over scientific achievement EVERY TIME.  

Based on her resume (above), I&#039;m sure Griffin sees her as a bureaucrat through and through, and believes that she&#039;ll make some ridiculous recommendation to the President/Congress that goes against everything he worked for in office.  

Since he&#039;s already stated he&#039;s resigning, the only good reasons for stories like this to be circulating are either that she&#039;s being ultra-obnoxious in her pursuit of her &quot;transition agenda&quot; or that she&#039;s trying to make him look bad (also to further her transition agenda).

On a personal note, it really ticks me off that we had an associate administrator that who&#039;s entire background is in politics and PR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, two of the best arguments I can provide FOR Griffin are the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ms. Garver received her Masters degree in <b>Science, Technology, and Public Policy</b> from the George Washington University in 1989, and her Bachelors degree in <b>Political Science and Economics</b> from Colorado College in 1983.&#8221;<br />
The important part of this is: she&#8217;s not even a technical person, much less a scientist or engineer.  I see people with business or marketing (or economics or whatever non-technical) degrees making decisions around at work (NASA) on nearly a daily basis, and it&#8217;s the cause for a very large part of the b.s. we have to go through.  Non-technical people giving marching orders on technical subjects is bad, plain and simple.</p>
<p>&#8220;Garver has served as a lead space policy advisor for the Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry campaigns for president.&#8221;<br />
Her assistance has been far from non-partisan, and she just happens to have sided with the party that chooses big spending for welfare programs over scientific achievement EVERY TIME.  </p>
<p>Based on her resume (above), I&#8217;m sure Griffin sees her as a bureaucrat through and through, and believes that she&#8217;ll make some ridiculous recommendation to the President/Congress that goes against everything he worked for in office.  </p>
<p>Since he&#8217;s already stated he&#8217;s resigning, the only good reasons for stories like this to be circulating are either that she&#8217;s being ultra-obnoxious in her pursuit of her &#8220;transition agenda&#8221; or that she&#8217;s trying to make him look bad (also to further her transition agenda).</p>
<p>On a personal note, it really ticks me off that we had an associate administrator that who&#8217;s entire background is in politics and PR.</p>
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