Will Google Buy the New York Times?

For years the internet buzzmakers say print media is archaic, and the internet is the future. Now they say maybe their superheros will make it theirs and it will be a great thing. ROFL. Idiots.

Era of the monopolies in skewed news is over. Now everyone can skew the news their way and have fun doing it,… Good by NYT, as Google will not waste their money on nothing…

The NYT has screwed this country enough – let it die a peaceful death.

#6 – SnotPoop

>>The NYT has screwed this country enough – let
>>it die a peaceful death.

The NYT is the cornerstone of free press in America. Sure, they make a mistake sometimes, like when they let Judith Miller lead them down the garden path to Iraq, her with her yellow-cake uranium and WMDs and all the other bullshit, but they ‘fess up when they’ve muffed up.

Who would you propose as a replacement for the NYT as America’s premier news source? Faux Spews? World Net Daily? Jewish World Review? The Reverend Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Times?

@ Mr Mustard

No one can PROPOSE a replacement. The market will decide who will replace it buy buying their product. No one proposed that the NYT goes out of business. It is just going to happen because their reporting is crap and they don’t report the truth. They try to create stories and slant them in untruthful ways. People see through this, don’t buy the product, and thus they will die a long or slow death depending on how much of of the fortune the Sulzberges are willing to lose in order to keep spewing their propaganda.

let the times just go down in piece

Great management decision – build an expensive new building while profits are diving.

Forget politics and breaking news for a minute.

It’s extremely hard to find a newspaper with writing anywhere near the quality of NY Times. The variety of subjects and the depth of the articles are unmatched.

Of course, you have to be able to read in order to appreciate it.

It’s extremely hard to find a newspaper with writing anywhere near the quality of NY Times. The variety of subjects and the depth of the articles are unmatched.

It may be written well, but it is often bias, inaccurate or incomplete when covering politics.

This is especially true when it comes to foreign policy in general and the middle east in particular, as evidenced by the Judith Miller disaster.

This is due to both the ownership and the market that the primarily serve – Bageltown.

And yes, not all Jews want to bias our foreign policy towards Israel, but enough of them do to influence it tremendously, and often against the national interests of the US.

Mustard, I’d rather not have one source for every broadcast and radio news in the country.

#18 – Lyin’ Mike

>>Mustard, I’d rather not have one source for
>>every broadcast and radio news in the
>>country.

Me neither. And Faux Spews is always good for a laugh, as are WND and JNR.

But if I had to get my news from only one source, it would be the NYT. And other than the far right wingnut fringe, most people feel the same way.

You know, I’m getting damned tired of people talking about the “Market” like it meant something important. The “Market” is simply the end result of billions of usually very stupid choices made by the ignorant. Nothing more. I’m sick of the “Market” being touted as some mythical energy field that’s all knowing and all encompassing like it was the “Force” or something. It doesn’t “know” shit. We could decide that in the next five or six years that we were going to rebuild the transportation system in this country into a total electric car system, and we could do it. There’s NO doubt it could be done. All we would have do is actually DECIDE that we were going to accomplish that as a goal, and proceed to do it. WE DECIDE. Not some mystical, mumbo-jumbo juju voodoo hoodoo thing-a-ma-bob. So, do you fuckers have Free Will, or are the Market Ghods angry? Are you Men or automatons?

An editorial board slanting is nothing new ore even bad. It’s when that slant affects the choice and slant of so-called “new” stories that it’s a problem. That slant has been apparent in the NYT for decades.

When it folds, that will be a good thing as the lefties will have a harder time pushing their agenda – they will no longer have a single point of propaganda dissemination.

A newspaper is simply one means of delivering news content. But there is more.

Ten or twenty years ago I would have said:

The difference between print and broadcast is often the depth and length of stories–and usually the quality. When the TV news covers something at 6 or 11 it is often a 30 second version of the basic facts. Then its on to the “Wednesday’s Child” segment featuring the cute kid of the week. The longer version of the same story that appears in the next day’s paper usually has a much stronger and more lasting impact.

Today there is the Internet–which is bringing far more readers around the world to newspapers’ content but in an unprofitable way–and many cable news outlets which sometimes offer long-form in-depth coverage and analysis which traditional broadcast media outlets–CBS’ 60 minutes aside–would never have the resources or viewers’ attention span to cover. The problem is that these same cable news outfits often give undue attention to a story because it is “breaking” than it really deserves. A helicopter following a car chase that will never be mentioned again after its conclusion is an obvious example.

Print media is very, very expensive to produce and distribute. My newspaper has a circulation of over 9,000 and about 20,000 readers. It costs about $2,000 per issue just to print and distribute. My website has every issue we have ever produced available–so it has all the same content. It costs me about $100 per year.

Here is the problem.

All of the past competition newspapers have historically faced and weather offered arguably lower quality content. Radio, TV & early cable news outlets by their nature offered less time per story and thus lower quality for the end user who wanted all the facts. You can print as many pages in a paper as budget and content allow. You can’t add more minutes into an hour. So the newspapers stayed strong and profitable.

The Internet is completely different. It has all the advantages of print publications (and now even their content) and is portable, usually free and allows for random access to any article rather than having to leaf through a paper or wait through a radio or TV program. It’s an increasingly ADHD consumer’s dream.

So the risk for us all is that if all of the papers go down, who will have the money to pay for the Woodwards and Bernsteins of the future? Who will have the resources to pay a reporter or team of reporters to study and investigate the Walter Reed scandal? That story was around since 2004 but never hit traction until a series of front page stories were printed in the Washington Post after an expensive years-long investigation by their permanent investigations unit–ironically started by Bob Woodward who has the luxury of being able to stay on at the Post for $1 per year.

I’m not arguing that we bail out the industry or that dinosaurs should be kept on life support in perpetutity. I do think that someone will figure this whole mess out and find away to allow the high quality content that some of the big papers have produced to survive in this new age–and help protect democracy in the process.

If there is any outfit that has shown the creativity, intelligence and innovative skills to reform the New York Times–and show the rest of us in the industry the way, it might well be Google.

It certainly won’t be “Wednesday’s Child.”

As for the arguments of the editorial slants of various media outlets, it is nothing new. People on the right see Fox News as “mainstream” and hate the New York Times and MSNBC. People on the left see the inverse. Good. Our diversity makes us stronger. That’s what the first amendment is all about. It’s all about equal access to the system. If Matt Drudge can start the most influential news website in the world single-handedly while sitting in his pajamas in his living room with no advertising then so can you.

#24 – SnotPoop

>> It’s when that slant affects the choice and
>>slant of so-called “new” stories that it’s a
>>problem.

Aw, would you let it go, SnotPoop? We all know that the Times got sucked in by discredited journalist Judith Miller into supporting Dumbya’s bullshit “intelligence” that formed the foundation for his trophy war in Iraq.

Don’t cast them in the role of right-wing shills just because of that. They apologized for the mistake.

#29 – Lyin’ Mike

>>well WND has been running a series that shows
>>Obama’s book was written by Ayers.

Hoo boy. If I read it in WND, I’m sure it must be true. Who do they have working on that breaking story, Jerome Corsi? Or did he make such an ass of himself over that “born in Kenya” nonsense that they put another one of their eager cub reporters on the story?

I’m going to have to re-evaluate you, Lyin’ Mike. I thought you read the truth and just lied about it, but if you’re a WND buff, maybe you’re just reading lies and parroting them verbatim. In that case, you may be simply non guilty by reason of mental disease or defect.

Hmm.

I didn’t know Corsi started the born in Kenya stuff. I figured it was his grandmother when she said she was there for his birth in Kenya.

No, Jack Cashill is behind the book story.

You can see in Obama’s book that he lied about the contents of Jeremiah Wright’s speech, The Audacity of Hope. Either that or the transcript Wright made available has been sanitized.

The additional made-up passages are very similar in style to passages in Ayers’ book.
One made up passage:
“It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need.”

The parallel sequence, usually a triple parallel, often coming at the end of a sentence, with the absence of a joining conjunction – an “and,” “or,” or “but.”- there are scores of such examples throughout Ayers’ 2001 memoir, “Fugitive Days,”

“He inhabited an anarchic solitude – disconnected, smart, obsessive.”

“… trees are shattered, doors ripped from their hinges, shorelines rearranged.”

“The desire to let go, the desire to escape, the desire to give oneself up to a God that could somehow put a floor on despair.”

“… memories that we didn’t need to feel shamed about, memories more accessible than those of ancient Egypt, memories that all people might study and cherish – and with which we could start to rebuild.”

“everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation.”