» New 2010 Mustangs Appear in SF Dvorak Uncensored: General interest observations and true web-log.

# 1 Named said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Wow! They really redesigned the lights! So innovative!

Are they going to sue you know for posting an article on their car with the logo showing?

# 2 dusanmal said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Obsolete car from obsolete manufacturer… Skin-deep beauty.

# 3 Thermo said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Too bad no one will be able to by one. Obama and Pelosi won’t let these be sold no matter how much people want them (unless it can be run on 2 AA batteries with a top speed of 15 mph and a range of 5 miles)
Once a car Czar is appointed in the bailout, this will be the first car he stops production of.

# 4 Higghawker said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Very nice. Ford has made great strides, both in quality and engineering. I work for Ford and am not just tooting their horn, this company is definitely moving in the right direction!

# 5 brendal said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

Someone pls. bring back Iacocca…please.

# 6 Improbus said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

I already bought my hot rod. My next car is going to be a sensible no frills plug-in hybrid.

# 7 stopher said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

So they’re selling the 2010 car in 2008? I’m confused.

# 8 jackfreedom said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

2010 models and it’s not even 2009. Parked is as good looking as those cars will be until they make them run off fusion energy and fly. Back To The Future is looking less and less like an awesome realism with every “up to 40mpg” car being made. Seems like it’s been 30 years of “up to 40mpg” with the only advancement beyond that being because of hybrids in the last 10 years. They definitely seem to be watering down the Tech to squeeze every dollar out of us until they can’t sell gas machines anymore. BS, I’m riding my bicycle.

# 9 Named said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

3,

So you’re one of those eh?

To the rest, watch out for your republican friends. Now that Jesus H Bush has left the White House the CommuNazi’s are in charge and they’re going to make all you white people marry black people with Muslim/chinese names and give birth to gay dogs.

# 10 Named said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

4,

By default, you ARE tooting your own horn. And Ford’s.

# 11 Unbound said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

Buy them while you can.
Odds are that this Mustang will never see the light of full production.
Here we are at the beginning of a deep deep recession, when people are going to tighten their belts, go for reliable, practical and inexpensive.
Actually, if Ford decides to go ahead with the production of a car like the Mustang, maybe the company deserves to fail.
Leave ‘toys’ like the Mustang for specialty manufacturers… Ford needs to concentrate on real cars for real people.

# 12 SimonSezz said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

I like the new updated look more than the previous mustang. I still wish they had kept it closer to the concept in 2005.

# 13 bill said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

WATCH IT TO THE VERY END . . .

Ford Plant In Brazil – Consider this as we prepare to bail out the Big Three Automakers.

This is a video of a new Ford plant in Brazil. One look at this and each of you will instantly be able to tell what is wrong with the manufacturing plants of the US car makers and why there will probably never be another one built in the US. It will also point out why more will go off shore.

Click below:

Ford’s most advanced assembly plant

http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

# 14 James Hill said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

I’ll take my ‘05 over the ‘10. They didn’t do enough to make me want to upgrade.

# 15 Obama's wetnurse said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

So what? It’s a car. It has grease. It has oil. It has gears and it has a maintenance schedule. How can anyone give a damn about a different shaped car? Jeez.

# 16 pfkad said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

#4, Highawker: I agree. I’ve owned two Fords recently (Focus and Ranger) and both have been at least the equal, and in some respects (and for the driving I do) superior to the similar Japanese models I had that they replaced. I think of the Big Three, Ford is best positioned to survive whatever the clowns in Washington do. At least I hope so.

# 17 jccalhoun said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Is it just me or do douchebags love Mustangs? Especially yellow ones and especially yellow convertible ones?

(Note that I’m not saying that if you love Mustangs then you are a douchebag)

# 18 Mister Mustard said, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

#13 – Bill

>>WATCH IT TO THE VERY END . . .
>>One look at this and each of you will
>>instantly be able to tell what is wrong with
>>the manufacturing plants of the US car makers

Yeah, you don’t want to miss out on the union-bashing at the very end! And I see what’s wrong with the US car makers’ plants; they employ people! Wages! Homes! Pets! DVD rentals! How dare they do anything that supports human beings, when they could be supporting robots!?!

# 19 Winston said, on December 16th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

No, no, no…

THIS is the 2010 Mustang:

http://tinyurl.com/6fu93x

# 20 Special Ed said, on December 16th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

#19 – I’d rather own that one.

# 21 Ford blows, as well as the drivers said, on December 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

Since only gay guys drive Mustangs (see #14), it is appropriate that it should debut in SF.

# 22 Miguel said, on December 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

Beautiful car, beautiful horse.

A pity we can’t get the Mustang here in Europe.

BTW the other day I happened to see a 60’s pony car at a used car dealership. I took some photos, you can see them here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/mdacalifornia/QuemQuerUmFordMustang#

Apparently imported for someone who wants to do a restore job. Still looks good after so many years.

# 23 Higghawker said, on December 16th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

#22

Any idea how much they wanted for it?

# 24 CDRaff said, on December 16th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

My favorite Mustang will always be my one that my great grandmothers neighbor had. It was a 68 California edition, fire engine red with a white top. It was a beautiful car that he hardly ever drove. Memories.

# 25 Mister Mustard said, on December 16th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Quem quer um Ford Mustang? Not me! They were cool 40 years ago. Today? Not so much.

# 26 Arous said, on December 16th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Boring…Also, each of these cars will have major problems within the first 50,000 miles!
Found On Road Dead.

# 27 Miguel said, on December 16th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

#23, no I didn’t ask. Next time I stop by I can ask.

# 28 Pierre Serné said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

Nice try John!

Now there’s no car company bailout you are going to save the American car companies by yourself?
By posting ‘ads’like this?

O..nice cars btw

# 29 Eric said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

I see prototype cars all the time, but they’re usually covered in black canvas to hide the details. Sometimes they have sensors and antennas attached. Over the summer I saw 3 strange looking cars that hung around town for a few days. Turns out they were Chevy Volt prototypes (I saw a picture a few weeks later). I live at 8500ft above sea level, so I think they are testing performance at altitude.

# 30 amodedoma said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

Looks like a ripoff from a Foose design I saw on Overhaulin’ on Discovery. Nice lines, but hell, I grew up in the 60’s.

Fix Or Repair Daily.

# 31 The0ne said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

I don’t think it’s going to appeal to many potential buyers. The styling is a mixture of retro and modern which doesn’t really work that well imo. The tail lights remind me of the Lotus Elise back in 85.

Add to that 2009 will see new versions of a few sports cares and this Mustang won’t be able to compete much. It really needs a new design imo, this one is already old, although I initially liked it.

# 32 James Hill said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

#21 – Worship, noted.

# 33 niyoko said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

#9

>3,

>So you’re one of those eh?
>
>To the rest, watch out for your republican friends. Now that >Jesus H Bush has left the White House the CommuNazi’s are in >charge and they’re going to make all you white people marry >black people with Muslim/chinese names and give birth to gay >dogs.

…gheez, did #3 push a button or something? Sick of hearing people say bad things about Democrats auto plans?

beyond that. The ‘10 looks really nice compared next to that other Red ‘05 (or whatever year) mustang.

#4

>Very nice. Ford has made great strides, both in quality and >engineering. I work for Ford and am not just tooting their >horn, this company is definitely moving in the right >direction!

I agree with you. I think Ford has done great with the ‘01-’05 Focus and the new Fusions. They, to me, are moving design and quality into a better direction then GM.

BUT Ford is to divided to me. They have Ford Europe and Ford USA. I think Ford US needs to work more with Ford Europe with design and bring more cars over. The Ford Europe philosophy that I see is “more everything, for less price”. I use the European Focus as a great example of this. It offers more space, standard features, and cheaper price then the Golf. It also looks great. But the US Focus is horrible looking and designed compared to the Euro counter part.

FOrd should consolidate with Ford Europe and save money by using some of the same cars. I’d say the C-Max, Mondeo, and FOcus would be a good start. Even the Fiesta might be a good one to bring over since Toyota and Honda have done with same with the Aigo/Yaris and Fit

# 34 Ford blows, as well as the drivers said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

Aw James, don’t take it personal, I’m just fucking with you.

# 35 plumbum said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

I cant believe they redid the taillights! puke!
The retro taillights and rerto gas cap made the Mustang rule the streets again, now Ford went and changed them back to the “space-age” look , huge mistake!

# 36 deowll said, on December 16th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

There will always be some people who have the money to afford something like this and the traditional mustang wasn’t as big of a wallet buster as some.

# 37 Named said, on December 16th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

33,

Frankly, I’m not ‘Merican so it’s pretty moot. Nonetheless I find it pretty sad that because a Democratic candidate was elected to the POTUS the “capitalist” market that is the US manifesto is suddenly null and void. I like to remind people of the inanity of that frame of mind.

# 38 pcsmith said, on December 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

What kind of gas mileage does it get?

Can you get one with a standard transmission and a 1.8 liter engine?

# 39 Special Ed said, on December 16th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

If they can do this http://tinyurl.com/6fnbrd they should be able to build a decent car. You know, with 22″ rims and hydraulics and shit.

# 40 JimD said, on December 16th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

Mustangs in ‘Frisco ???

Where’s Steve McQueen(Bullitt) when we need him !!!

# 41 Grandpa said, on December 16th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Are these the ones they are making in Mexico? Are they hybrids or battery operated? WoW, American made cars from Mexico.
We should really bail them out so they can build more factories in other countries. That’ll help the American bottom line eh.

# 42 Mister Mustard said, on December 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

#32 – James Hill

Who better to advocate for gay rights than one who is worshiped for living his dream?

# 43 GetSmart said, on December 16th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

I just want a plug in electric. I really don’t give a shit anymore, as long as it’s a step and a half or so above an electric golf cart. If it’ll do 60 miles an hour and go 60 miles without a recharge, I’ll take it. Cars are just another place to piss hard earned money down the drain.

# 44 scadragon said, on December 17th, 2008 at 5:33 am

Just think of how many of San Francisco’s homeless people could be given shelter and food for what one of those costs….

# 45 gmknobl said, on December 17th, 2008 at 6:10 am

I’m partial to the blue one. Specs? Can it corner for real – in other words have something other than a limited slip differential and old-style suspension in the back?

I use to have a firehawk (look it up) and loved it but it wasn’t meant for sharp cornering. That’s the problem with pony cars. Great in a fast line though. It was comfortable inside though even if the sound system was a sucky Bose monstrosity that someone at GM thought was “Boffo!” And of course, going with the (T) top down, on a sunny but chilly day with the heat blasting was great, great fun I will never forget. Wish I still had it. I flipped it when I ran into a rocky hillside coming off black ice when I wasn’t even close to speeding. The mean temperature was 41 degrees except in a few small sheltered pocket valleys that had temps below freezing (obviously). The police officer (jerk) said he wanted to give me reckless driving but decided not to. He told me I was going too fast for the conditions. He was such a redneck jerk!

# 46 bobbo said, on December 21st, 2008 at 9:25 am

Here’s the car I would buy===sad, the Chinese leading in innovation, even if Buffett bought into this plug-in electric.

http://www.dailytech.com/Chinese+BYD+Launches+Worlds+First+Mass+Produced+Plugin+Hybrid/article13736.htm

# 47 Paddy-O said, on December 21st, 2008 at 9:57 am

#46 7 hours to charge for a 60 mile range. Could be a good additional car for going to the supermarket. I don’t think that in the current economic situation, having to buy an additional car will play well.

# 48 bobbo said, on December 21st, 2008 at 10:18 am

#47–Paddy==you are coming along. Congrats. Try to follow the thought: “My next car.”

How many million Americans will buy “their next car” next year?

Statistics bear it out: 85% of driving is less than 50 miles per day. Idiotic to think a car appealing to 85% of people won’t have a market.

You aren’t idiotic are you Paddy? I thought not.

# 49 Paddy-O said, on December 21st, 2008 at 10:21 am

# 48 bobbo said, “#47–Paddy==you are coming along. Congrats. Try to follow the thought: “My next car.””

Try to follow. This car cannot be a replacement car for most people.

Understand?

# 50 bobbo said, on December 21st, 2008 at 10:33 am

OK Paddy. Lets trash this one thru. What part of 85% of people drive less than 50 miles per day don’t you understand??

You see–any number above 50% is “most people.”

Further–the car in the link has a gas engine to give the car much further range.

Explain how this car, other issues being equal/ignored for now, is not a valuable option for anyone to consider?

# 51 Paddy-O said, on December 21st, 2008 at 11:02 am

# 50 bobbo said, “OK Paddy. Lets trash this one thru. What part of 85% of people drive less than 50 miles per day don’t you understand??”

What part of most people WILL drive more than 50 miles many times over the course of a year?

And, they won’t be buying an additional car just for those trips. Thus they won’t buy as their primary car, something that can’t make those trips.

# 52 bobbo said, on December 21st, 2008 at 11:28 am

#51–OK Paddy, that does make sense. I guess most people are just as stupid as you understand them to be.

Save the planet, save $100’s per year but accept the inconvenience of occasionally having to rent a gas car and spend 50-60 bucks every once in a while.

Oh—-WAIT=====THE CAR IN THE LINK HAS A GAS ENGINE!!!!!!!!!!

See Paddy, I tried to meet you half way.

Is the availability of this car a good option for certain people to entertain or not? Or is any drawback to any number of people a black ball review in your book?

How do you think change ever comes?

# 53 Mister Mustard said, on December 21st, 2008 at 11:31 am

#51 – Paddy-RAMBO

RAMBO, why don’t you just give it up? You’re like Bobbo with his theophobia…you have a congenital need to ridicule and dismiss anything that could possibly be good for the environment.

So what if Version 1.0 of the electric car commodity won’t serve as a panacea for every single person? Christ, you sound like John C. Dvorak ridiculing the computer mouse. Get over it. This is the wave of the future, and you’re obviously under this bus, rather than on it.

And also take note that it isn’t everyone’s goal in life to live in a cookie-cutter McMansion, driving 20 miles in their Humper or Naggravator to the nearest grocery store. For millions and millions of people who live in cities, towns, or who don’t have the automotive needs of a traveling salesman, 50 miles/ day is plenty. And when it’s not, there’s always planes, trains, buses, and rental cars for the longer trips.

You should move out of Mom’s basement and get a place closer to your Radio Shack. The electric car would do you just fine. Maybe they’d even let you plug it in at work.

# 54 bobbo said, on December 21st, 2008 at 11:39 am

#53–Mustard==the picture in my mind is that those radio controlled battery powered cars at the Shack are “almost” large enough to give Paddy that daily ride to work that he needs.

Maybe two of them as powered rollerskates would work?

Why, oh why didn’t god give us an innate desire to protect Mother Earth? Maybe he did, and the devil took it away????? Damn Devil!!!! Devil eats coal for breakfast and uses gasoline as milk. Paddy smiles.

# 55 Paddy-O said, on December 21st, 2008 at 3:05 pm

# 52 bobbo said, “Is the availability of this car a good option for certain people to entertain or not?”

Not enough people to make it a player in the auto market.

# 56 Mister Mustard said, on December 21st, 2008 at 3:27 pm

#55 – Paddy-RAMBO

Trust me, Paddy-RAMBO, the people who are going to buy this car are not the ones who come into your Radio Shack to watch you entertain them with the remote controlled cars.

If there are enough people willing to pay $325,000 for a car to make it “a player in the auto market”, there are plenty of people willing to buy this one. And Version 2.0 will be a landslide success.

# 57 bobbo said, on December 21st, 2008 at 3:28 pm

#55–Well Paddy-O==you think just like a Big Three Auto Exec–aka–Bankrupt!

Only difference being, I assume you aren’t pulling down those Million Dollar Salaries Plus Bonus, but you probably do think you are just as smart?

I love this blog. A real live republican. Cute as a baby rattlesnake but still poisoning society. But even in your universe, your attitude is proof positive the market “works” as long as gasoline is kept at a low enough price, yes, many Americans will prefer oversized humpers. I like the tech of hybrids since you can’t work on any cars anymore, “gas” has lost its appeal.

# 58 Paddy-O said, on December 21st, 2008 at 3:42 pm

# 56 Mister Mustard said, “If there are enough people willing to pay $325,000 for a car to make it “a player in the auto market”, there are plenty of people willing to buy this one.”

Cool. Let me know when they are selling “plenty” of them in the US…

# 59 Mister Mustard said, on December 21st, 2008 at 5:07 pm

#58 – Paddy-RAMBO

>>Cool. Let me know when they are selling
>>“plenty” of them in the US…

Will do, Paddy-RAMBO.

What’s your criterion for “plenty of”? As many as they sell Lamborghini Murcielagos? As many as they sell Ferrari 599s? As many as they sell Maserati Quattroportes? You must know the popularity of those cars from the sales figures of the radio-controlled ones you sell at the ‘Shack.

Or do we have to wallow in the putrid mud of Humpers and Naggravators, that every wannabe nouveau-rich McMansionite dreams of having in the driveway? That’s a pretty high sales bar to clear, but I’ll bet that Version 2.0 will sail right over. Your bellicose ludditism notwithstanding.

# 60 mac.mogul said, on December 31st, 2008 at 4:49 pm

To everyone…
Ford isn’t taking a bailout. They’re not spending your tax dollars to make their vehicles
Ford is a global company, of course they have plants in other countries.
Ford is going to be one of the FEW companies to bring in an automotive revolution (or at least survive long enough to see one)
The 2010 Mustang is aimed specifically at a younger age demographic. It is high-style bang-for-buck (like always, duh) vehicle. They will sell like hotcakes, just watch.
To all the idiots/morons/douchebags using FORD as some sort of clever acronym… Grow up. You’ve likely never driven anything that didn’t have a bow-tie or horns on the front of it.
Allan Mullaly is the man with the plan for Ford. He’s on the right track and it shows. Ford reported profit gains in the first half of 2008 before the crunch, so what is stopping them from moving forward AFTER the crunch? Like I said before, Ford is a global company and Mullaly knows it. CEO’s in the past didn’t embrace that fact until now and Ford’s current plan for global architecture in the 2011 Fiesta and other 2012 models is probably the single most important happening in the company’s history.

The Mustang isn’t going anywhere so all the haters are just wasting their time.

…Meanwhile back in Dearborn… the Camaro struggles to get off the ground and the Challenger faces early retirement, story at 11.

# 61 fooshka said, on January 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 am

According to Ford, all their Mustangs leak rain. So, have they included a lifetime supply of Sham-Wows with the new car to allow the owner to soak up the water inside?

# 62 babuska said, on January 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 am

# 3 Thermo said, on December 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Too bad no one will be able to by one. Obama and Pelosi won’t let these be sold no matter how much people want them (unless it can be run on 2 AA batteries with a top speed of 15 mph and a range of 5 miles)
Once a car Czar is appointed in the bailout, this will be the first car he stops production of.

That is correct.

If Pelosi wants to help Detroit she can start by canceling the CAFE standards and after that she can roll back the emission standards, t hen they wouldn’t need 25 billion to retool. You whiners about fuel economy in CA don’t realize that your very own CARB is responsible for much of the shitty performance of modern cars. Then eco douches in other states thought it was a good idea to adopt CA standards as well.

Why would you need CAFE standards when the epa fuel mileage is printed, very large, right on the sticker?

The CAFE standards forced Detroit to build a bunch of crappy little cars when they were not good at doing that. They had to build those and lose money on each one, so they could continue to sell their big vehicles which was what they were good at. Appointing a “Car CZar” will destroy the domestic auto industry. Can you think of anything run by the government which is run well?

# 63 Mymustangiscrap said, on January 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 am

hey mac.mogul said,

Allan Mullaly is an idiot. Why is he collecting millions while riding Ford into the ground to they extent they had to sell Jaguar and may sell Volvo?

He is presiding over a Ford that is building poorly enginered, low quality, awful customer service vehicles.

“Ask the man who owns one”

# 64 blksn8k said, on January 31st, 2009 at 9:08 am

First of all, Ford has not requested ANY government help, unlike Chrysler and GM. They have only stated that they would like to have access to federal low interest loan guarantees in the event the economy worsens to the point where they need help or one of the other two does go under dragging Ford suppliers along with them. Therefore, the comments about the Dems not allowing Ford to build Mustangs are totally baseless.
Also, do you realize that Ford does build vehicles, including hybrids, that get better fuel economy than most other vehicles in their class? Do you realize that the 2010 Fusion Hybrid is EPA rated at 41 mpg city and 36 highway and has a city cruising range of 700 miles? That is several mpg better than the Camry Hybrid. Ford also holds over 100 patents on this technology. Get your facts straight before posting baseless drivel that does nothing to help solve our nations economic issues. Companies like Ford helped build this country, not tear it down.