>>I guess you forgot about …rouge nations

*gasp!* ROUGE NATIONS? What are you saying? They’re homo-secks-ual??

Pure logic here.

If drug dealers can build subs to smuggle in weed I’d think Iran could afford a few. Put a nuke in it to rather than weed and use a cargo ship to move it to just outside our coastal waters and let it make the rest of the trip on its own.

A few days later a couple of martyrs for Allah and a lot of dead heathens.

San Fransico would be my target of choice based on what they say they believe. There are more real Heathens there. I can recall Iran’s leaders saying very clearly that there are no known gays in Iran.

Russia was getting very rich on oil money. China may end up owning the U.S.

India is turning into a super power. They have a lot of very poor people but their tech base and gross national product is going up.

There’d be nothing to stop them launching an all-out naval attack from their bases in land-locked Afghanistan.

What caterpillar? It is simply a magma disruption.

Wrong. That was before the advent of air and missile power. Large Navies are of limited use and can be very vulnerable in a conflict. And very expensive too.

Wrong. You are thinking of surface ships. Modern subs are really only vulnerable to other subs. A sub can stealthily travel the worlds seas and launch a cruise missile at any country without anyone knowing it location. They can deliver conventional or nuclear cruise missiles, ballistic strategic nuclear weapons or special forces troops anywhere in the world. They also carry out covert surveillance and have been used countless times in modern history.

FTN

Crap, that sounds like something Adam Curry might say

You make it sound like bin Laden is the only enemy we will every have. While subs may not do anything about bin Ladin, they might stop troop carriers from reaching Taiwan. It also might take out some podunk country that buys a Russian sub and tries to get cute.

> Large Navies are of
> limited use and can be
> very vulnerable in a conflict.

You should consider refraining from responding on tactics when you clearly haven’t the foggiest clue of what you are speaking.

The fastest way to move thousands of tons of material like tanks, armored vehicles, troop carriers, artillery and such from North America to somewhere else is via the ocean. The fastest way to park an airfield off someone’s coast in another part of the world is via the ocean.

Until aircraft can carry thousands of tons, fly around the world without refueling and do it cheaply, the oceans will remain a critical military resource.