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	<title>Comments on: New, Overreaching Toy Testing Law Will Force Small US Toymakers Out Of Business</title>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We sell many toys that will be tested... at least I guess they&#039;ll be tested. Who&#039;s enforcing this law? Do etailers, Amazon sellers, and eBayers have to show proof that the toys they sell have been tested?

So many questions, so few answers. Of course we want the products we sell to be safe for children. However, the only companies that will suffer are the small shops that will be forced to raise prices and drive buyers to big box retailers. 

A recent article in the L.A. Times talked about places like Goodwill and the Salvation Army not accepting or selling kids toys and clothing. Again, is the onus on the reseller or the manufacturer? The Times call half a dozen resellers and only one had even heard about the new testing laws.

Most of the posts on this thread had good points; the one that irked me however was BdgBill who said, &quot;wood toys don&#039;t do crap.&quot; Bill should have qualified his statement meaning older kids don&#039;t like wood toys. Young kids love building blocks and other &quot;basic&quot; toys that keep them occupied for hours instead of TV or video games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We sell many toys that will be tested&#8230; at least I guess they&#8217;ll be tested. Who&#8217;s enforcing this law? Do etailers, Amazon sellers, and eBayers have to show proof that the toys they sell have been tested?</p>
<p>So many questions, so few answers. Of course we want the products we sell to be safe for children. However, the only companies that will suffer are the small shops that will be forced to raise prices and drive buyers to big box retailers. </p>
<p>A recent article in the L.A. Times talked about places like Goodwill and the Salvation Army not accepting or selling kids toys and clothing. Again, is the onus on the reseller or the manufacturer? The Times call half a dozen resellers and only one had even heard about the new testing laws.</p>
<p>Most of the posts on this thread had good points; the one that irked me however was BdgBill who said, &#8220;wood toys don&#8217;t do crap.&#8221; Bill should have qualified his statement meaning older kids don&#8217;t like wood toys. Young kids love building blocks and other &#8220;basic&#8221; toys that keep them occupied for hours instead of TV or video games.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think parents who decline vaccinations for their kids on the basis of thimerosal (no longer used) or &quot;government conspiracies&quot; are prime candidates for Darwin Awards, in a new category: the Indirect Darwin Award. That&#039;s the one where the awardees survive long enough to procreate, but their offspring don&#039;t.

Want to talk about mercury poisoning? Do you know what brand name thimerosal used to be sold under when we were kids? Merthiolate! Yes, that red stuff that used to sting so badly on cuts and scrapes. Our parents used to slather that on us at every opportunity. 

Hmm. I wonder how much smarter the country would be if we hadn&#039;t all been so exposed to mercury as kids...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think parents who decline vaccinations for their kids on the basis of thimerosal (no longer used) or &#8220;government conspiracies&#8221; are prime candidates for Darwin Awards, in a new category: the Indirect Darwin Award. That&#8217;s the one where the awardees survive long enough to procreate, but their offspring don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Want to talk about mercury poisoning? Do you know what brand name thimerosal used to be sold under when we were kids? Merthiolate! Yes, that red stuff that used to sting so badly on cuts and scrapes. Our parents used to slather that on us at every opportunity. </p>
<p>Hmm. I wonder how much smarter the country would be if we hadn&#8217;t all been so exposed to mercury as kids&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard on the radio today that they are going to exempt these small makers who make toys of wood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard on the radio today that they are going to exempt these small makers who make toys of wood.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank gosh they removed plastic model kits from the toy category. 99% of the parts are so small, a pet mouse would choke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank gosh they removed plastic model kits from the toy category. 99% of the parts are so small, a pet mouse would choke.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a simple solution to those small businesses that make these toys.  Stop calling them children&#039;s toys and start calling them &quot;Nostalgia Replica&#039;s&quot;.  Then they can say &quot;Hey, they weren&#039;t meant for children&quot; when the Gooberment comes a callin&#039; to get their cut of the &quot;testing fees&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a simple solution to those small businesses that make these toys.  Stop calling them children&#8217;s toys and start calling them &#8220;Nostalgia Replica&#8217;s&#8221;.  Then they can say &#8220;Hey, they weren&#8217;t meant for children&#8221; when the Gooberment comes a callin&#8217; to get their cut of the &#8220;testing fees&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@22 - Ron Larson

&gt;&gt;It just made my blood boil.

Why?  If most people got the vaccine, most people didn&#039;t get measles, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@22 &#8211; Ron Larson</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;It just made my blood boil.</p>
<p>Why?  If most people got the vaccine, most people didn&#8217;t get measles, right?</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my doubts that objects made of untreated wood should have to be tested. 

They might also come up with a list of tested materials that can be used in toys so that the toy doesn&#039;t have to be tested. 

Interior wall paint has already been tested for example.

In my view all this testing is a complete waste anyway. The answer on the item sent to be tested will always be no.

If the government watch dogs don&#039;t occasionally pull out something from the stores and check it somebody is going to do a substitution and you are back with lead in toys.

All the law should have said is that toys will  on occasion be tested and if any meaningful amount of lead is found in them they will be recalled and disposed of in a safe manner at the makers&#039; expense. 

You don&#039;t trust industry to police itself unless you are brain dead.


Um, Congress did it with banking, They&#039;ve already done this once with toys. Nobody has a clue where the billions we are spending to bail out banks is going. Has Congress learned anything? 

No. They are still on the take and voting against the best interest of the people that put them in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my doubts that objects made of untreated wood should have to be tested. </p>
<p>They might also come up with a list of tested materials that can be used in toys so that the toy doesn&#8217;t have to be tested. </p>
<p>Interior wall paint has already been tested for example.</p>
<p>In my view all this testing is a complete waste anyway. The answer on the item sent to be tested will always be no.</p>
<p>If the government watch dogs don&#8217;t occasionally pull out something from the stores and check it somebody is going to do a substitution and you are back with lead in toys.</p>
<p>All the law should have said is that toys will  on occasion be tested and if any meaningful amount of lead is found in them they will be recalled and disposed of in a safe manner at the makers&#8217; expense. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t trust industry to police itself unless you are brain dead.</p>
<p>Um, Congress did it with banking, They&#8217;ve already done this once with toys. Nobody has a clue where the billions we are spending to bail out banks is going. Has Congress learned anything? </p>
<p>No. They are still on the take and voting against the best interest of the people that put them in office.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/24/new-overreaching-toy-testing-law-will-force-small-us-toymakers-out-of-business/comment-page-2/#comment-1460451</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The inmates are running the asylum now. I fear for the next generation of children. The modern parents who are so afraid of everything, and feel that there are no limits on what is to be expected to protect their children from any potentially bad experience.

Want a good example? Yesterday I listened to the latest This American Life program on NPR titled &quot;370: Ruining It for the Rest of Us&quot;. In act 1, they discuss the recent outbreak of a measles infection in San Diego caused by some parents who refuse to get their children vaccinated.

It just made my blood boil. The selfishness and paranoia of the the parents who endanger the lives of all the other children in their city because of a perceived risk from the vaccination. They stupidly trade the miniscule risk of problems from the vaccination on one child for a major risk of mass infection of a serious disease for all children. It just makes you wonder how on earth these parents managed to live long enough to procreate themselves. You can&#039;t help but think they they feel that the rest of the world is there solely for their own little prodigy, and to hell with every one else&#039;s children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inmates are running the asylum now. I fear for the next generation of children. The modern parents who are so afraid of everything, and feel that there are no limits on what is to be expected to protect their children from any potentially bad experience.</p>
<p>Want a good example? Yesterday I listened to the latest This American Life program on NPR titled &#8220;370: Ruining It for the Rest of Us&#8221;. In act 1, they discuss the recent outbreak of a measles infection in San Diego caused by some parents who refuse to get their children vaccinated.</p>
<p>It just made my blood boil. The selfishness and paranoia of the the parents who endanger the lives of all the other children in their city because of a perceived risk from the vaccination. They stupidly trade the miniscule risk of problems from the vaccination on one child for a major risk of mass infection of a serious disease for all children. It just makes you wonder how on earth these parents managed to live long enough to procreate themselves. You can&#8217;t help but think they they feel that the rest of the world is there solely for their own little prodigy, and to hell with every one else&#8217;s children.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/24/new-overreaching-toy-testing-law-will-force-small-us-toymakers-out-of-business/comment-page-2/#comment-1460448</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, maybe people on this blog will realize that all this regulation that they think businesses are against, are actually helping big businesses.

Starting all the way with the Dept of Agriculture and the railroad commissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, maybe people on this blog will realize that all this regulation that they think businesses are against, are actually helping big businesses.</p>
<p>Starting all the way with the Dept of Agriculture and the railroad commissions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranger007</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/24/new-overreaching-toy-testing-law-will-force-small-us-toymakers-out-of-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1460430</link>
		<dc:creator>Ranger007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 Paddy-O said
 
&quot;Too many defective people are surviving into adulthood.&quot;

Hard to argue with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 Paddy-O said</p>
<p>&#8220;Too many defective people are surviving into adulthood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hard to argue with that.</p>
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		<title>By: fw</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/24/new-overreaching-toy-testing-law-will-force-small-us-toymakers-out-of-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1460427</link>
		<dc:creator>fw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see what happens when people make CRAP.
People get hurt, one way or the other.
This is only the ripple effect of those who are greedy and stupid.
Witch sadly hurts the third party most, then the ones that actually made the bad stuff.
Still as shown something must be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see what happens when people make CRAP.<br />
People get hurt, one way or the other.<br />
This is only the ripple effect of those who are greedy and stupid.<br />
Witch sadly hurts the third party most, then the ones that actually made the bad stuff.<br />
Still as shown something must be done.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, this will wipe out my easy-to-swallow-solid-lead-brick-dipped-in-melamine-toy business.

I think I need a government bail-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, this will wipe out my easy-to-swallow-solid-lead-brick-dipped-in-melamine-toy business.</p>
<p>I think I need a government bail-out.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/24/new-overreaching-toy-testing-law-will-force-small-us-toymakers-out-of-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1460424</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How was the Dem. tally on this vote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How was the Dem. tally on this vote?</p>
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		<title>By: More Congress Government Foolishness</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Congress Government Foolishness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if Americans and American businesses did not have enough trouble and concerns
The Chinese with their lack of labor laws and management coercion and corruption in their political and economic systems ship downright dangerous products 
Congress reacts
The small American toymakers who are struggling in the market place ( who produced safe products) get hit
After the industry is decimated Congress will react ( after their summer recess) to relax the rules ( after the media hubbub)
Guess who will then  manufacture and export the toys to the US and Canada
Welcome to Wal-mart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if Americans and American businesses did not have enough trouble and concerns<br />
The Chinese with their lack of labor laws and management coercion and corruption in their political and economic systems ship downright dangerous products<br />
Congress reacts<br />
The small American toymakers who are struggling in the market place ( who produced safe products) get hit<br />
After the industry is decimated Congress will react ( after their summer recess) to relax the rules ( after the media hubbub)<br />
Guess who will then  manufacture and export the toys to the US and Canada<br />
Welcome to Wal-mart</p>
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		<title>By: LabTesting</title>
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		<dc:creator>LabTesting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where these costs come from. In our lab we have tested hundreds of consumer products. A lead test costs $24. Semi-volatile organics (the test for phthalates) costs $295. Either these toy manufacturers are getting ripped off, or there is some wild exaggeration going on. Is the testing needed? I won&#039;t be the judge of that, however, we have found extremely high levels of lead in many craft items and small parts that children could easily swallow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where these costs come from. In our lab we have tested hundreds of consumer products. A lead test costs $24. Semi-volatile organics (the test for phthalates) costs $295. Either these toy manufacturers are getting ripped off, or there is some wild exaggeration going on. Is the testing needed? I won&#8217;t be the judge of that, however, we have found extremely high levels of lead in many craft items and small parts that children could easily swallow.</p>
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